NUR
2009-05-20 04:49:35 UTC
Discussion:
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Seon Ferguson
2009-05-20 17:00:11 UTC
I think the NWO's religion will include GIA and the whole man made
global warming BS.
global warming BS.
NUR
2009-05-21 00:28:17 UTC
All Bad
2009-05-21 00:28:42 UTC
Militant members of the NRM Doremifasolatido proselytize Antwerp Train
Station!
Okay, really, yeah, if you live in Israel, the notion of compulsory
education could sound scary. They have not seen the alternative, which is
in the news in the US of A, again:
"Daniel is 13 years old; he has been tested for his competency, and has been
found to be completely illiterate. He was homeschooled. Colleen Hauser has
been wielding the sacrificial dagger of her faith on her son for years,
crippling his brain and rendering him unable to evaluate the real-world
consequences of their decisions. I wonder how many Daniel Hausers there are
in this country, living lives of quiet ignorance, unexposed by the trauma of
a physical disease?"
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/05/modern_day_isaacs.php
"A courtroom clash between medicine and faith took a criminal turn, with
police around the country on the lookout Wednesday for a Minnesota mother
who fled with her cancer-stricken 13-year-old son rather than consent to
chemotherapy."
"A court-ordered X-ray on Monday showed a tumor growing in Daniel Hauser's
chest, and doctors said it will probably kill him without conventional
medical treatment."
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jZdKeCFSczuUghJkSegi8DGfMK-wD98A972O0
Yeah, a 13 year old is dying of lymphoma in the USofA because his parents
have the right to deny him health care, as well as an education, so,
compulsory education, which I suspect Israel already has, is not such a
scary thing; its absence is the scary thing.
Oddly though, the youtube clip, apparently from Israel, draws exception to a
religion that one can join without getting water boarded, or having their
genitals skinned. What is up with that? What are they looking for, a root
canal to join?
Loading Image...
http://fp.thebeers.f9.co.uk/baptism.htm
Loading Image...
http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Studio/5433/
www.brityy.org/
Yeah, uh huh. I'll take the interview.
- All Bad
Station!
Okay, really, yeah, if you live in Israel, the notion of compulsory
education could sound scary. They have not seen the alternative, which is
in the news in the US of A, again:
"Daniel is 13 years old; he has been tested for his competency, and has been
found to be completely illiterate. He was homeschooled. Colleen Hauser has
been wielding the sacrificial dagger of her faith on her son for years,
crippling his brain and rendering him unable to evaluate the real-world
consequences of their decisions. I wonder how many Daniel Hausers there are
in this country, living lives of quiet ignorance, unexposed by the trauma of
a physical disease?"
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/05/modern_day_isaacs.php
"A courtroom clash between medicine and faith took a criminal turn, with
police around the country on the lookout Wednesday for a Minnesota mother
who fled with her cancer-stricken 13-year-old son rather than consent to
chemotherapy."
"A court-ordered X-ray on Monday showed a tumor growing in Daniel Hauser's
chest, and doctors said it will probably kill him without conventional
medical treatment."
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jZdKeCFSczuUghJkSegi8DGfMK-wD98A972O0
Yeah, a 13 year old is dying of lymphoma in the USofA because his parents
have the right to deny him health care, as well as an education, so,
compulsory education, which I suspect Israel already has, is not such a
scary thing; its absence is the scary thing.
Oddly though, the youtube clip, apparently from Israel, draws exception to a
religion that one can join without getting water boarded, or having their
genitals skinned. What is up with that? What are they looking for, a root
canal to join?
Loading Image...
http://fp.thebeers.f9.co.uk/baptism.htm
Loading Image...
http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Studio/5433/
www.brityy.org/
Yeah, uh huh. I'll take the interview.
- All Bad
Aor
2009-05-21 02:52:57 UTC
Start HERE (Sourcewatch):
Baha'i Faith
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Baha%27i_Faith
Baha'i Internet Agency
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Baha%E2%80%99i_Internet_Ag...
Then see,
SECTS OF BAHAIS: A Taxonomy of Baha'i Sects, http://www.sectsofbahais.com/
&
Documentary film by independent Israeli film maker Naama Pyritz:
BAHA'IS IN MY BACKYARD
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2877478116441126906&hl=en-AU
-
LAWSUIT (Larger Haifan Baha'i organization sues smaller Orthodox
Baha'i faith for trademark infringement on the name *Baha'i* and
loses)
US NSA vs OBF (Orthodox Baha'i Faith)
http://trueseeker.typepad.com/true_seeker/court_case.html
Judge's decision
http://www.truebahai.info/court/139-opinion.pdf
**Appellate hearing (Feb 2009)***
http://www.ca7.uscourts.gov/tmp/LF1FFZY0.mp3
CHICAGO TRIBUNE, Monday May 18, 2009
Baha'i rift: Baha'is upset with Orthodox Baha'i Faith
Mainstream group doesn't want the name Baha'i by any other group
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-bahai-18-may18,0,6239589.story
-
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/
BAHAI Tactics & Techniques
"Slanderous Vilification" = The Baha'i Technique - Ad Hominem, Libel,
Slander, Demonize, Scapegoat, Ostracize, Shun, Banish, Backbite,
Defame, Vilify, Discredit, Smear, Revile, Suppress, Attack, Bully,
Intimidate, Threaten, Malign, Blackball, Deceive, Coerce, Silence,
Harass... etc., etc.... CAUTION NON-BAHAIS
1. As far as possible they hold back from responding
2. Then they claim no knowledge of the given issue by feigning
ignorance
3. After the exposer has exposed they will try to divert to secondary
and totally peripheral and irrelevent side-issues
4. The exposer is then painted as someone with an axe to grind,
biased, deluded (while they, the bahaim, still have not responded to
the main issue exposed)
5. Next they relate mental instability and insanity to the exposer,
i.e. shoot the messenger
6. Then, the last tactic, is to wheel out several dubious personas on
the scene who claim to be neutral non-bahai observers who then begin
attacking the exposer as well as the issue exposed while supporting
the bahais and their issues as so-called non-bahais
Quote
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/technique.htm
Professor Juan Cole, University of Michigan, June 12, 1998:
"Let me ask you why in the world you think that I would risk my
professional reputation by publicly stating falsehoods? ...The very
technique of the more glaze-eyed among these people is to unbearably
bully a Baha'i whom they don't like, use unjustified threats of
declaring him or her a CB [Covenant Breaker (heretic)] to silence the
individual, and if the person will not be silenced, then
to depend upon the gullibility of the Baha'is in refusing to listen to
any victim's story because, of course, the Baha'i institutions are
infallible and divinely guided and could never do anything wrong. It
is a perfect racket. Of course, this technique of making liberals go
away has been enormously successful, and ex-Baha'i liberals have no
credibility with the remaining Baha'is nor do most of them have any
energy to continue to make a case, either to the Baha'is or the
outside world, for the incredible abuses that go on inside this
organization ostensibly committed to tolerance!"
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Cole10.htm
-
Paul Andrew Hammond - CAUTION (Baha'i Internet Agency hack)
"First, I do believe, based on Hammond's refusal to say why he is
interested in the Baha'i Faith and his frequent defense of the AO,
that he is probably working for them."
-- Eric Stetson, September 16, 2003
See,
"The question evaded and dodged by Baha'i Internet Agency hack Paul
Andrew Hammond,
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/7b5a578a0f3ff98f
"Who is Paul Hammond and what is his interest in Bahaism: Keel
University, British Imperial policy and the Bahaim"
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/74cae56bed1aacb4
"When Paul Andrew Hammmond was a Bahai"
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/74cae56bed1aacb4
-
Pat Kohli - CAUTION (Baha'i Internet Agency hack)
See,
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Pat_kohli
PAT KOHLI LIES ABOUT HIS IDENTITY ON SOURCEWATCH
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=User:Owen
-
THEORY OF BAHA’I LYING & EQUIVOCATION
See Susan Stiles Maneck,
http://bahai-library.com/bsr/bsr06/62_maneck_hikmat.htm
WISDOM AND DISSIMULATION IN THE BAHA’I WRITINGS: The Use and meaning
of Hikmat in the Baha’i Writings
QUOTE
"In many cases hikmat calls for the apparent suspension of a Bahá'í
principle in order to ensure the protection of the Faith."
-
BAHA'I ADMINISTRATIVE STALINISM
QUOTE
"We don't want to be like those people who want to see God with their
own eyes, or hear His melody with their own ears, because we have been
given the gift of being able to see through the eyes of the House of
Justice and listen through the ears of the House of Justice." - Bahai
Counselor Rebeque Murphy
To hear this section of her talk go to:
http://media1.bahai.us/tab/Highlights/Sunday/30_Counselor_Murphy_Rema...
http://bahai-library.com/published.uhj/counsellors.html
THE INSTITUTION OF THE COUNSELLORS
A Document Prepared by the Universal House of Justice
January 29 2001
Quote
Protection of the Cause (pp. 15-16)
Although deepening the friends' understanding of the
Covenant and increasing their love and loyalty to it are of paramount
importance, the duties of the Auxiliary Board members for Protection
do not end here. The Board members must remain ever vigilant,
monitoring the actions of those who, driven by the promptings of ego,
seek to sow the seeds of doubt in the minds of the friends and
undermine the Faith. In general, whenever believers become aware of
such problems, they should immediately contact whatever institution
they feel moved to turn to, whether it be a Counsellor, an Auxiliary
Board member, the National Spiritual Assembly or their own Local
Assembly. It then becomes the duty of that institution to ensure that
the report is fed into the correct channels and that all the other
institutions affected are promptly informed. Not infrequently, the
responsibility will fall on an Auxiliary Board member, in coordination
with the Assembly concerned, to take some form of action in response
to the situation. This involvement will include counselling the
believer in question; warning him, if necessary, of the consequences
of his actions; and bringing to the attention of the Counsellors the
gravity of the situation, which may call for their intervention.
Naturally, the Board member has to exert every effort to counteract
the schemes and arrest the spread of the influence of those few who,
despite attempts to guide them, eventually break the Covenant.
The need to protect the Faith from the attacks of its enemies may
not be generally appreciated by the friends, particularly in places
where attacks have been infrequent. However, it is certain that such
opposition will increase, become concerted, and eventually universal.
The writings clearly foreshadow not only an intensification of the
machinations of internal enemies, but a rise in the hostility and
opposition of its external enemies, whether religious or secular, as
the Cause pursues its onward march towards ultimate victory.
Therefore, in the light of the warnings of the Guardian, the Auxiliary
Boards for Protection should keep "constantly" a "watchful eye" on
those "who are known to be enemies, or to have been put out of the
Faith", discreetly investigate their activities, alert intelligently
the friends to the opposition inevitably to come, explain how each
crisis in God's Faith has always proved to be a blessing in disguise,
and prepare them for the "dire contest which is destined to range the
Army of Light against the forces of darkness".
-
BAHA’I CONTROL ON THEIR ELECTORAL SYSTEM – EXPOSED (Structural
features of Bahai Stalinism)
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/636c4cedf90dea5b
-
BAHAI NOTIONS of FREEDOM of CONSCIENCE according to EX-UHJ member
DOUGLAS MARTIN -- Monday, September 23, 2001
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/DMartin.htm
Quote
"We have inherited a dangerous delusion from Christianity that our
individual conscience is supreme. This is not a Baha'i belief. In the
end, in the context of both our role in the community and our role in
the greater world, we must be prepared to sacrifice our personal
convictions or opinions. The belief that individual conscience is
supreme is equivalent to "taking partners with God" which is abhorrent
to the Teachings of the Faith."
http://www.bahai-library.org/talks/martin.watson.html
-
NOTE especially, S.G. Wilson,
BAHAISM AND RELIGIOUS ASSASSINATION The Muslim World vol. 4, issue 4,
1914
&
BAHAISM AND RELIGIOUS DECEPTION The Muslim World, Volume 5, Issue 2,
1914-1915.
at,
http://wahidazal66.googlepages.com/babidocuments%28westernsources%29
-
BAHA'I SCAM-ARTISTRY & FRAUD IN THE UNITED ARAB EMIRATES: A Multi-
Milliard Rial Scam* By A Baha’i Company in Dubai
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/0c8df7dca08d52ce#
FBI raids office of Baha’i at Univ. Florida
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/97aed7a172da675/1b8eb9f1758c241b?lnk=gst&q=FBI+%2B+Bahai#1b8eb9f1758c241b
BAHAI BUSINESS PRACTICES IN THE USA
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/de706298e9a9cd6f#
BAHAI SPY RING IN INDIA BUSTED
http://groups.google.com.au/group/soc.culture.iranian/browse_thread/thread/91f9b845cd9105a3/78727004d825a589?lnk=gst&q=Bahai+Spy+Ring+with+India+Busted#78727004d825a589
-
Note
Baha'u'llah (the Baha'i founder) On the Critics of the Cause
In
Ma'idih-i-Asmani, vol. 4, page 355
http://reference.bahai.org/fa/t/b/MAS4/mas4-355.html
Translation by Wahid Azal (Jan. 7, 2009)
QUOTE
Chapter 11
The Critics of the Cause of God (munkirin-i-amru'llah)
The Ancient Beauty in the Tablet of Habib from Maragha, which begins
with "H B hear the call of God from the direction of the throne by the
protective signs/verses (bi-ayati muhayyimin)..etc." they [i.e. Husayn
'Ali Nuri] enunciate the command (mi-farmayand) [i.e. state],
By God, the Truth, whomsoever criticizes it [i.e. Baha'ism], [which
is] possessed of the manifest, the brilliant, the high and the
perspicuous excellence, it behoveth him to ask his mother [yanbaghi
lahu bi-an yas'al min ummihi] about his origins [or 'state',
i.e.'hal', meaning he should inquire his mother about his legitimate
conception – trans.], for he shall return to the nethermost hell
[asfal al-jahim]"…
In Promulgation of Universal Peace p. 322 the following is quoted by
'Abbas Effendi from a prayer by his father, cf. THE BAHA'I FAITH AND
ISLAM (ed.) Heshmat Moayyad (The Association for Baha'i Studies:
Ottawa, 1990), p.23
Quote
O God! Whomsoever violates My Covenant, O God, humiliate him. Verily
whosoever violates My Covenant, erase and efface him.
-
Note Dr Sa'eed Khan on the Baha'is he knew
From Mission Problems in New Persia, 1926, p. 83, 87 & 89 quoted by
William McElwee Miller in The Baha'i Faith: It's History and
Teachings, 1973, p. 289.
Quote
"...There is no conscience with them [ i.e. the Baha'is], they keep
to no principle, they tell you what is untrue, ignoring or denying
undoubted historical facts, and this is the character of both the
leader and the led...As to morality and honesty, the whole system has
proved disappointing...I have been in contact with many Baha'is, and
have had dealings with many and have tested many, and unfortunately I
have met not a single one who could be called honest or faithful in
the full sense of these words..."
Dr Sa'eed Khan [was] a highly-respected physician...who had as a
doctor treated the second widow of the Bab, and had for a lifetime
known intimately both Babis [i.e. Bayanis] and Baha'is in Tehran and
Hamadan.
-
BAHAISM AND THE BRITISH
http://bahaisandbritannia.googlepages.com/home
1. (Top Secret) British Government Foreign Countries Report (no.56)
16th November 1921
2. APPRECIATION OF THE ATTACHED EASTERN REPORT NO. LXX (May 1918)
Then see,
HOSTAGE TO KHOMEINI by Robert Dreyfuss (New Benjamin Franklin House:
New York, 1980) pp.117-118 (Pdf pages 73-74)
http://www.wlym.com/pdf/iclc/hostage.pdf
&
http://www.archive.org/details/HostageToKhomeini
...Today the Bahai cult is hated in Iran, and is considered correctly
to be an arm of the British Crown. During the destabilization of the
Shah in 1978, it was widely reported that in several instances the
Bahai cult secretly funded the Khomeini Shi’ite movement. In part, the
money would have flowed through the cult’s links to the same
international ‘human rights’ organizations, such as Amnesty
International, that originally sponsored the anti-Shah movement in
Iran. These movements also derive from the “one world” currents
associated with the Bahais since the early 1900s. (If any Iranians
have been misled on the question of the Bahais by the supposed
antipathy of Khomeini’s clique to the Bahais, it should be noted that
the Bahai cultists often deliberately encouraged anti-Bahai
activities
as camouflage)...
Also see pp. 115-116 (Pdf page 72)
Note as well,
http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&id=RvttAAAAMAAJ&dq=%22The+Handboo...
Reference :
PALESTINE
EDITED BY : HARRY CHARLES LUKE, B.Lr1r., M.A.
ASSISTANT GOVERNOR OF JERUSALEM AND EDWARD KEITH-ROACH ASSISTANT CHIEF
SECRETARY TO THE GOVERNMENT OF
PALESTINE
WITH AN INTRODUCTION BY
The Right Hon. SIR HERBERT SAMUEL, P.C., G.B.E.
HIGH COMMISSIONER FOR PALESTINE
Issued under the Authority of the Government of Palestine
MACMILLAN AND CO., LIMITED
ST. MARTIN'S STREET, LONDON
1922
Quote
"...Sir 'Abbas Effendi 'Abdu'l Baha had travelled extensively in
Europe and America to expound his doctrines, and on the 4th December,
1919, ___was created by King George V. a K.B.E. ****for valuable
services rendered to the British Government**** in the early days of
the Occupation_____....."
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NOTE
William McElwee Miller *THE BAHA'I FAITH: It's History and Teachings
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/archives/Baha'i%20faith%20and%20Its%20Teachings%20by%20William%20McElwee%20Miller.htm
Mirza Ahmad Sohrab, BROKEN SILENCE
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/archives/SohrabBrokenSilence.pdf
Vance Salisbury, AN EXAMINATION OF SUPPRESSION AND DISTORTION IN 20th-
CENTURY BAHA'I LITERATURE
http://bahai-library.org/unpubl.articles/suppression.html
-
See as well,
http://www.bayanic.com [CLICK tab BAHAISM]
==CAUTION NON-BAHAIS==
Baha'i Faith
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Baha%27i_Faith
Baha'i Internet Agency
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Baha%E2%80%99i_Internet_Ag...
Then see,
SECTS OF BAHAIS: A Taxonomy of Baha'i Sects, http://www.sectsofbahais.com/
&
Documentary film by independent Israeli film maker Naama Pyritz:
BAHA'IS IN MY BACKYARD
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2877478116441126906&hl=en-AU
-
LAWSUIT (Larger Haifan Baha'i organization sues smaller Orthodox
Baha'i faith for trademark infringement on the name *Baha'i* and
loses)
US NSA vs OBF (Orthodox Baha'i Faith)
http://trueseeker.typepad.com/true_seeker/court_case.html
Judge's decision
http://www.truebahai.info/court/139-opinion.pdf
**Appellate hearing (Feb 2009)***
http://www.ca7.uscourts.gov/tmp/LF1FFZY0.mp3
CHICAGO TRIBUNE, Monday May 18, 2009
Baha'i rift: Baha'is upset with Orthodox Baha'i Faith
Mainstream group doesn't want the name Baha'i by any other group
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-bahai-18-may18,0,6239589.story
-
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/
BAHAI Tactics & Techniques
"Slanderous Vilification" = The Baha'i Technique - Ad Hominem, Libel,
Slander, Demonize, Scapegoat, Ostracize, Shun, Banish, Backbite,
Defame, Vilify, Discredit, Smear, Revile, Suppress, Attack, Bully,
Intimidate, Threaten, Malign, Blackball, Deceive, Coerce, Silence,
Harass... etc., etc.... CAUTION NON-BAHAIS
1. As far as possible they hold back from responding
2. Then they claim no knowledge of the given issue by feigning
ignorance
3. After the exposer has exposed they will try to divert to secondary
and totally peripheral and irrelevent side-issues
4. The exposer is then painted as someone with an axe to grind,
biased, deluded (while they, the bahaim, still have not responded to
the main issue exposed)
5. Next they relate mental instability and insanity to the exposer,
i.e. shoot the messenger
6. Then, the last tactic, is to wheel out several dubious personas on
the scene who claim to be neutral non-bahai observers who then begin
attacking the exposer as well as the issue exposed while supporting
the bahais and their issues as so-called non-bahais
Quote
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/technique.htm
Professor Juan Cole, University of Michigan, June 12, 1998:
"Let me ask you why in the world you think that I would risk my
professional reputation by publicly stating falsehoods? ...The very
technique of the more glaze-eyed among these people is to unbearably
bully a Baha'i whom they don't like, use unjustified threats of
declaring him or her a CB [Covenant Breaker (heretic)] to silence the
individual, and if the person will not be silenced, then
to depend upon the gullibility of the Baha'is in refusing to listen to
any victim's story because, of course, the Baha'i institutions are
infallible and divinely guided and could never do anything wrong. It
is a perfect racket. Of course, this technique of making liberals go
away has been enormously successful, and ex-Baha'i liberals have no
credibility with the remaining Baha'is nor do most of them have any
energy to continue to make a case, either to the Baha'is or the
outside world, for the incredible abuses that go on inside this
organization ostensibly committed to tolerance!"
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Cole10.htm
-
Paul Andrew Hammond - CAUTION (Baha'i Internet Agency hack)
"First, I do believe, based on Hammond's refusal to say why he is
interested in the Baha'i Faith and his frequent defense of the AO,
that he is probably working for them."
-- Eric Stetson, September 16, 2003
See,
"The question evaded and dodged by Baha'i Internet Agency hack Paul
Andrew Hammond,
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/7b5a578a0f3ff98f
"Who is Paul Hammond and what is his interest in Bahaism: Keel
University, British Imperial policy and the Bahaim"
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/74cae56bed1aacb4
"When Paul Andrew Hammmond was a Bahai"
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/74cae56bed1aacb4
-
Pat Kohli - CAUTION (Baha'i Internet Agency hack)
See,
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Pat_kohli
PAT KOHLI LIES ABOUT HIS IDENTITY ON SOURCEWATCH
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=User:Owen
-
THEORY OF BAHA’I LYING & EQUIVOCATION
See Susan Stiles Maneck,
http://bahai-library.com/bsr/bsr06/62_maneck_hikmat.htm
WISDOM AND DISSIMULATION IN THE BAHA’I WRITINGS: The Use and meaning
of Hikmat in the Baha’i Writings
QUOTE
"In many cases hikmat calls for the apparent suspension of a Bahá'í
principle in order to ensure the protection of the Faith."
-
BAHA'I ADMINISTRATIVE STALINISM
QUOTE
"We don't want to be like those people who want to see God with their
own eyes, or hear His melody with their own ears, because we have been
given the gift of being able to see through the eyes of the House of
Justice and listen through the ears of the House of Justice." - Bahai
Counselor Rebeque Murphy
To hear this section of her talk go to:
http://media1.bahai.us/tab/Highlights/Sunday/30_Counselor_Murphy_Rema...
http://bahai-library.com/published.uhj/counsellors.html
THE INSTITUTION OF THE COUNSELLORS
A Document Prepared by the Universal House of Justice
January 29 2001
Quote
Protection of the Cause (pp. 15-16)
Although deepening the friends' understanding of the
Covenant and increasing their love and loyalty to it are of paramount
importance, the duties of the Auxiliary Board members for Protection
do not end here. The Board members must remain ever vigilant,
monitoring the actions of those who, driven by the promptings of ego,
seek to sow the seeds of doubt in the minds of the friends and
undermine the Faith. In general, whenever believers become aware of
such problems, they should immediately contact whatever institution
they feel moved to turn to, whether it be a Counsellor, an Auxiliary
Board member, the National Spiritual Assembly or their own Local
Assembly. It then becomes the duty of that institution to ensure that
the report is fed into the correct channels and that all the other
institutions affected are promptly informed. Not infrequently, the
responsibility will fall on an Auxiliary Board member, in coordination
with the Assembly concerned, to take some form of action in response
to the situation. This involvement will include counselling the
believer in question; warning him, if necessary, of the consequences
of his actions; and bringing to the attention of the Counsellors the
gravity of the situation, which may call for their intervention.
Naturally, the Board member has to exert every effort to counteract
the schemes and arrest the spread of the influence of those few who,
despite attempts to guide them, eventually break the Covenant.
The need to protect the Faith from the attacks of its enemies may
not be generally appreciated by the friends, particularly in places
where attacks have been infrequent. However, it is certain that such
opposition will increase, become concerted, and eventually universal.
The writings clearly foreshadow not only an intensification of the
machinations of internal enemies, but a rise in the hostility and
opposition of its external enemies, whether religious or secular, as
the Cause pursues its onward march towards ultimate victory.
Therefore, in the light of the warnings of the Guardian, the Auxiliary
Boards for Protection should keep "constantly" a "watchful eye" on
those "who are known to be enemies, or to have been put out of the
Faith", discreetly investigate their activities, alert intelligently
the friends to the opposition inevitably to come, explain how each
crisis in God's Faith has always proved to be a blessing in disguise,
and prepare them for the "dire contest which is destined to range the
Army of Light against the forces of darkness".
-
BAHA’I CONTROL ON THEIR ELECTORAL SYSTEM – EXPOSED (Structural
features of Bahai Stalinism)
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/636c4cedf90dea5b
-
BAHAI NOTIONS of FREEDOM of CONSCIENCE according to EX-UHJ member
DOUGLAS MARTIN -- Monday, September 23, 2001
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/DMartin.htm
Quote
"We have inherited a dangerous delusion from Christianity that our
individual conscience is supreme. This is not a Baha'i belief. In the
end, in the context of both our role in the community and our role in
the greater world, we must be prepared to sacrifice our personal
convictions or opinions. The belief that individual conscience is
supreme is equivalent to "taking partners with God" which is abhorrent
to the Teachings of the Faith."
http://www.bahai-library.org/talks/martin.watson.html
-
NOTE especially, S.G. Wilson,
BAHAISM AND RELIGIOUS ASSASSINATION The Muslim World vol. 4, issue 4,
1914
&
BAHAISM AND RELIGIOUS DECEPTION The Muslim World, Volume 5, Issue 2,
1914-1915.
at,
http://wahidazal66.googlepages.com/babidocuments%28westernsources%29
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BAHA'I SCAM-ARTISTRY & FRAUD IN THE UNITED ARAB EMIRATES: A Multi-
Milliard Rial Scam* By A Baha’i Company in Dubai
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/0c8df7dca08d52ce#
FBI raids office of Baha’i at Univ. Florida
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/97aed7a172da675/1b8eb9f1758c241b?lnk=gst&q=FBI+%2B+Bahai#1b8eb9f1758c241b
BAHAI BUSINESS PRACTICES IN THE USA
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/de706298e9a9cd6f#
BAHAI SPY RING IN INDIA BUSTED
http://groups.google.com.au/group/soc.culture.iranian/browse_thread/thread/91f9b845cd9105a3/78727004d825a589?lnk=gst&q=Bahai+Spy+Ring+with+India+Busted#78727004d825a589
-
Note
Baha'u'llah (the Baha'i founder) On the Critics of the Cause
In
Ma'idih-i-Asmani, vol. 4, page 355
http://reference.bahai.org/fa/t/b/MAS4/mas4-355.html
Translation by Wahid Azal (Jan. 7, 2009)
QUOTE
Chapter 11
The Critics of the Cause of God (munkirin-i-amru'llah)
The Ancient Beauty in the Tablet of Habib from Maragha, which begins
with "H B hear the call of God from the direction of the throne by the
protective signs/verses (bi-ayati muhayyimin)..etc." they [i.e. Husayn
'Ali Nuri] enunciate the command (mi-farmayand) [i.e. state],
By God, the Truth, whomsoever criticizes it [i.e. Baha'ism], [which
is] possessed of the manifest, the brilliant, the high and the
perspicuous excellence, it behoveth him to ask his mother [yanbaghi
lahu bi-an yas'al min ummihi] about his origins [or 'state',
i.e.'hal', meaning he should inquire his mother about his legitimate
conception – trans.], for he shall return to the nethermost hell
[asfal al-jahim]"…
In Promulgation of Universal Peace p. 322 the following is quoted by
'Abbas Effendi from a prayer by his father, cf. THE BAHA'I FAITH AND
ISLAM (ed.) Heshmat Moayyad (The Association for Baha'i Studies:
Ottawa, 1990), p.23
Quote
O God! Whomsoever violates My Covenant, O God, humiliate him. Verily
whosoever violates My Covenant, erase and efface him.
-
Note Dr Sa'eed Khan on the Baha'is he knew
From Mission Problems in New Persia, 1926, p. 83, 87 & 89 quoted by
William McElwee Miller in The Baha'i Faith: It's History and
Teachings, 1973, p. 289.
Quote
"...There is no conscience with them [ i.e. the Baha'is], they keep
to no principle, they tell you what is untrue, ignoring or denying
undoubted historical facts, and this is the character of both the
leader and the led...As to morality and honesty, the whole system has
proved disappointing...I have been in contact with many Baha'is, and
have had dealings with many and have tested many, and unfortunately I
have met not a single one who could be called honest or faithful in
the full sense of these words..."
Dr Sa'eed Khan [was] a highly-respected physician...who had as a
doctor treated the second widow of the Bab, and had for a lifetime
known intimately both Babis [i.e. Bayanis] and Baha'is in Tehran and
Hamadan.
-
BAHAISM AND THE BRITISH
http://bahaisandbritannia.googlepages.com/home
1. (Top Secret) British Government Foreign Countries Report (no.56)
16th November 1921
2. APPRECIATION OF THE ATTACHED EASTERN REPORT NO. LXX (May 1918)
Then see,
HOSTAGE TO KHOMEINI by Robert Dreyfuss (New Benjamin Franklin House:
New York, 1980) pp.117-118 (Pdf pages 73-74)
http://www.wlym.com/pdf/iclc/hostage.pdf
&
http://www.archive.org/details/HostageToKhomeini
...Today the Bahai cult is hated in Iran, and is considered correctly
to be an arm of the British Crown. During the destabilization of the
Shah in 1978, it was widely reported that in several instances the
Bahai cult secretly funded the Khomeini Shi’ite movement. In part, the
money would have flowed through the cult’s links to the same
international ‘human rights’ organizations, such as Amnesty
International, that originally sponsored the anti-Shah movement in
Iran. These movements also derive from the “one world” currents
associated with the Bahais since the early 1900s. (If any Iranians
have been misled on the question of the Bahais by the supposed
antipathy of Khomeini’s clique to the Bahais, it should be noted that
the Bahai cultists often deliberately encouraged anti-Bahai
activities
as camouflage)...
Also see pp. 115-116 (Pdf page 72)
Note as well,
http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&id=RvttAAAAMAAJ&dq=%22The+Handboo...
Reference :
PALESTINE
EDITED BY : HARRY CHARLES LUKE, B.Lr1r., M.A.
ASSISTANT GOVERNOR OF JERUSALEM AND EDWARD KEITH-ROACH ASSISTANT CHIEF
SECRETARY TO THE GOVERNMENT OF
PALESTINE
WITH AN INTRODUCTION BY
The Right Hon. SIR HERBERT SAMUEL, P.C., G.B.E.
HIGH COMMISSIONER FOR PALESTINE
Issued under the Authority of the Government of Palestine
MACMILLAN AND CO., LIMITED
ST. MARTIN'S STREET, LONDON
1922
Quote
"...Sir 'Abbas Effendi 'Abdu'l Baha had travelled extensively in
Europe and America to expound his doctrines, and on the 4th December,
1919, ___was created by King George V. a K.B.E. ****for valuable
services rendered to the British Government**** in the early days of
the Occupation_____....."
-
NOTE
William McElwee Miller *THE BAHA'I FAITH: It's History and Teachings
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/archives/Baha'i%20faith%20and%20Its%20Teachings%20by%20William%20McElwee%20Miller.htm
Mirza Ahmad Sohrab, BROKEN SILENCE
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/archives/SohrabBrokenSilence.pdf
Vance Salisbury, AN EXAMINATION OF SUPPRESSION AND DISTORTION IN 20th-
CENTURY BAHA'I LITERATURE
http://bahai-library.org/unpubl.articles/suppression.html
-
See as well,
http://www.bayanic.com [CLICK tab BAHAISM]
==CAUTION NON-BAHAIS==
mash_ghasem
2009-05-21 02:12:12 UTC
Mr. Nima: If you take your head out of your, Paul, AB and other
Bahai's ass, you will see alot going on around the world about Iran &
in Iran! If you don't feel be an Iranian & don't care then exclude
SCI.
Bahai's ass, you will see alot going on around the world about Iran &
in Iran! If you don't feel be an Iranian & don't care then exclude
SCI.
Aor
2009-05-21 02:41:20 UTC
Mr. Nima: If you take your head out of your, Paul, AB and other
Bahai's ass, you will see alot going on around the world about Iran &
in Iran! If you don't feel be an Iranian & don't care then exclude
SCI.
And if you took your head out of your ass and the asses of theseBahai's ass, you will see alot going on around the world about Iran &
in Iran! If you don't feel be an Iranian & don't care then exclude
SCI.
Haifan Baha'i Internet Agency scum-bags you suck up to, Sasan
Pasabani, you would see this Chicago Tribune article published a few
days ago:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-bahai-18-may18,0,6239589.story
Baha'i Faith
Mainstream group doesn't want the name Baha'i by any other group
By Manya A. Brachear | Tribune reporter
May 18, 2009
1 2 next Every religion has been riven by struggles over authority and
authenticity.
Buddhism began when a maverick Hindu prince inspired disciples to
embrace asceticism. Judaism has sprouted branches from ultra-orthodox
to ultra-liberal, even Jews for Jesus. Christianity went through
numerous profound splits, including the Protestant Reformation sparked
in the 16th Century by Martin Luther in Germany and the 19th Century
Mormon movement led by Joseph Smith in the U.S.
Now the Baha'i Faith, the organization representing the most recent
sect to spring from Islam, is struggling to defend its identity in
federal court in Chicago, where North American Baha'is have been based
ever since believers came to the U.S. about 90 years ago. They contend
that a tiny band of believers known as the Orthodox Baha'i Faith can't
call themselves Baha'i or use one of its key symbols without violating
trademark law or a previous court ruling more than 40 years ago.
In the hands of the federal 7th Circuit Court of Appeals, the case
could set a precedent for settling religious schisms, doctrinal
disputes and claims to truth.
"The word Baha'i carries with it implications for a certain sets of
beliefs -- and we have to protect that," said Robert Stockman, a
practicing Baha'i and religious studies instructor at DePaul
University.
Adherents of the Orthodox Baha'i Faith believe the international
community has strayed from the religion's original teachings. That
deviation, they say, threatens to interfere with God's plan for the
world.
Bahá'u'lláh, who founded the faith in Iran in the mid-19th Century, is
regarded by Baha'is as the most recent messenger of God in a long line
including Abraham, Buddha, Krishna, Jesus and Muhammad. Baha'is
believe Bahá'u'lláh revealed God's plan by which humanity one day
would unite to become a single race.
On a Web site called www.truebahai.com, the orthodox group faults the
mainstream denomination for corrupting that plan.
The mainstream Baha'is have responded with a lawsuit that tries to bar
the orthodox from calling themselves Baha'i and sharing the "The
Greatest Name," a sacred and trademarked symbol. Baha'is believe they
are not only safeguarding their identity. They are defending the truth
with a capital T.
The Orthodox say that is not a matter for the courts to decide.
"We're the true faith. That's what we would say," said Jeffrey
Goldberg, a member of the Orthodox Baha'i Faith who left Chicago to be
closer to an Orthodox community in New Mexico. "That has to be decided
in the hearts and minds of the Baha'i, not by a secular court order."
The Baha'is first took breakaway believers to court in 1966 after a
tumultuous time for their community. Nine years earlier, Shoghi
Effendi, guardian of the faith and direct descendant of the founding
prophet, had died unexpectedly and allegedly without naming a
successor.
Leaders decided a Universal House of Justice envisioned by Effendi
would oversee the faith. But shortly after the leaders announced their
solution, one of them declared that Effendi actually had intended for
him to serve as the next guardian.
Charles Mason Remey, then in his 90s, said Effendi had addressed him
in letters as his son or spiritual descendant.
The National Assembly of France and about 100 others followed Remey.
But the rest of the Baha'i community declared Remey a covenant
breaker, expelled him from the faith and successfully sued his
followers, barring them from calling themselves Baha'i and using the
sacred symbol. Remey's group disbanded, but orthodox believers
reorganized and continued to maintain the guardianship.
Thirty years later, Goldberg, an active Baha'i in Barrington, came
upon the splinter group while surfing the Internet. He became
convinced that he had been duped.
With no explanation, Goldberg quietly resigned from the community
because he knew the consequences. When Bahai's are declared covenant
breakers, they are shunned or ostracized with the exception of
business relations.
But Janice Franco wouldn't let Goldberg go that easily.
She insisted on knowing why he left and, when he told her, went on a
quest to prove him wrong. After plunging herself into Baha'i
literature, Franco discovered Goldberg might have a point.
Indeed, both Goldberg and Franco were declared covenant breakers and
shunned. Goldberg's wife was encouraged to divorce her husband.
Franco's home-schooled children lost a number of friends. To this day,
they are wary of organized religion.
previous 1 2 "It was devastating news to find out the larger group had
strayed," Franco said. "I want to follow the truth. I don't want to
support a mistake.
"The consequence is I don't have a community."
Then in 2006, the mainstream Baha'is filed a lawsuit, accusing the
orthodox believers of violating the court order issued 40 years
earlier.
The Orthodox Baha'is insist they aren't the same group. They also say
a religious denomination can't trademark truth. The term Baha'i refers
to a follower of Bahá'u'lláh. That applies to him and other Orthodox
Baha'i, he said.
"From our point of view, if you believe in Christ you can use the word
Christ in your name," Goldberg said. "It's a little bit like asking
you to recant your faith. It's unacceptable to us."
But Stockman said it is the religion's responsibility to protect the
Baha'i name.
"Baha'is are told again and again to try to exercise discipline on
what they say about their faith and don't confuse the public. ... We
have our own community to build," he said.
There are 5 million Baha'is in the world -- 150,000 in the U.S.,
including 2,000 in the Chicago area. Why the mainstream denomination
waited four decades to enforce the court ruling is a mystery. Baha'i
leaders declined interview requests.
Barring the Orthodox believers from using the name "Baha'i" prevents
them from popping up in Google when users type in that term.
Stockman said the Web is a tricky place to have conversations about
spiritual truth.
"It's not our desire to convert people. It's our desire to put our
material out there for people to know what the truth is and decide
themselves."
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