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horrible inversion of the Bahai teachings
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Ruth White
2009-07-23 11:15:52 UTC
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revival of excommunication is a horrible inversion of the Bahai teachings


Ruth White. Abdul Baha's Questioned Will and Testament.
Beverly Hills: White, 1946.


"Everyone of these edicts are inversions of the Bahai Teachings, as
given to the world by the Founders of the Cause."

"In saying that recognized Bahais must not vote in any election based on
a party system Shoghi Effendi and his hierarchy have set up what might
be considered a government within each government in every country where
there are enough of his followers. Over that government he is supreme
dictator. His subjects must pay taxes to him (tithes) and he forbids his
followers to vote on national and civic affairs. All his edicts no
matter how un-patriotic, or how much in violation of the universal
principles of the Bahai Religion, must be obeyed under threat of
excommunication."

"This revival of excommunication is a horrible inversion of the Bahai
teachings--the Revelation for which Baha'u'llah suffered imprisonment
for twenty-five years, and Adbu'l-Baha for forty years--the Cause for
which twenty thousand martyrs sacrificed their lives to establish
freedom of conscienceand to unite all mankind regardless of religion,
race or country. The idea of excommunication is impossible in the world
envisaged by Baha'u'llah" (89-90).
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Ruth%20White.htm
--
The Baha'i Faith & Religious Freedom of Conscience
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/

See 2007 - Lawsuit by Wilmette NSA Against Other Denominations
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/

Dr. C. (Charles) Ainsworth Mitchell
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/CAMitchell_Report.htm
NUR
2009-07-23 11:44:53 UTC
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Dear Fred,

Good to have you back!

Have you considered why Ruth White abandoned Bahaism altogether and
became a devotee of the Indian Parsi Guru Meher Baba?

That in itself says alot.

W
Post by Ruth White
revival of excommunication is a horrible inversion of the Bahai teachings
Ruth White. Abdul Baha's Questioned Will and Testament.
Beverly Hills: White, 1946.
"Everyone of these edicts are inversions of the Bahai Teachings, as
given to the world by the Founders of the Cause."
"In saying that recognized Bahais must not vote in any election based on
a party system Shoghi Effendi and his hierarchy have set up what might
be considered a government within each government in every country where
there are enough of his followers. Over that government he is supreme
dictator. His subjects must pay taxes to him (tithes) and he forbids his
followers to vote on national and civic affairs. All his edicts no
matter how un-patriotic, or how much in violation of the universal
principles of the Bahai Religion, must be obeyed under threat of
excommunication."
"This revival of excommunication is a horrible inversion of the Bahai
teachings--the Revelation for which Baha'u'llah suffered imprisonment
for twenty-five years, and Adbu'l-Baha for forty years--the Cause for
which twenty thousand martyrs sacrificed their lives to establish
freedom of conscienceand to unite all mankind regardless of religion,
race or country. The idea of excommunication is impossible in the world
envisaged by Baha'u'llah" (89-90).http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Ruth%20White.htm
--
The Baha'i Faith & Religious Freedom of Consciencehttp://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/
See 2007 - Lawsuit by Wilmette NSA Against Other Denominationshttp://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/
Dr. C. (Charles) Ainsworth Mitchellhttp://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/CAMitchell_Report.htm
seon
2009-07-26 11:53:32 UTC
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What about Australia where you have to vote. Do Bahais still boycot voting?
If so how do they get away with it?
Post by Ruth White
revival of excommunication is a horrible inversion of the Bahai teachings
Ruth White. Abdul Baha's Questioned Will and Testament.
Beverly Hills: White, 1946.
"Everyone of these edicts are inversions of the Bahai Teachings, as given
to the world by the Founders of the Cause."
"In saying that recognized Bahais must not vote in any election based on a
party system Shoghi Effendi and his hierarchy have set up what might be
considered a government within each government in every country where
there are enough of his followers. Over that government he is supreme
dictator. His subjects must pay taxes to him (tithes) and he forbids his
followers to vote on national and civic affairs. All his edicts no matter
how un-patriotic, or how much in violation of the universal principles of
the Bahai Religion, must be obeyed under threat of excommunication."
"This revival of excommunication is a horrible inversion of the Bahai
teachings--the Revelation for which Baha'u'llah suffered imprisonment for
twenty-five years, and Adbu'l-Baha for forty years--the Cause for which
twenty thousand martyrs sacrificed their lives to establish freedom of
conscienceand to unite all mankind regardless of religion, race or
country. The idea of excommunication is impossible in the world envisaged
by Baha'u'llah" (89-90).
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Ruth%20White.htm
--
The Baha'i Faith & Religious Freedom of Conscience
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/
See 2007 - Lawsuit by Wilmette NSA Against Other Denominations
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/
Dr. C. (Charles) Ainsworth Mitchell
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/CAMitchell_Report.htm
All Bad
2009-07-27 00:45:14 UTC
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Post by seon
What about Australia where you have to vote. Do Bahais still boycot
voting? If so how do they get away with it?
Hi Seon,

Don't confuse someone's misperception with reality. Though Baha'is do avoid
partisan politics, they do vote in elections in their states,
cities/towns/counties and nations, voting for the best candidate.

- All Bad
Post by seon
Post by Ruth White
revival of excommunication is a horrible inversion of the Bahai teachings
Ruth White. Abdul Baha's Questioned Will and Testament.
Beverly Hills: White, 1946.
"Everyone of these edicts are inversions of the Bahai Teachings, as given
to the world by the Founders of the Cause."
"In saying that recognized Bahais must not vote in any election based on
a party system Shoghi Effendi and his hierarchy have set up what might be
considered a government within each government in every country where
there are enough of his followers. Over that government he is supreme
dictator. His subjects must pay taxes to him (tithes) and he forbids his
followers to vote on national and civic affairs. All his edicts no matter
how un-patriotic, or how much in violation of the universal principles of
the Bahai Religion, must be obeyed under threat of excommunication."
"This revival of excommunication is a horrible inversion of the Bahai
teachings--the Revelation for which Baha'u'llah suffered imprisonment for
twenty-five years, and Adbu'l-Baha for forty years--the Cause for which
twenty thousand martyrs sacrificed their lives to establish freedom of
conscienceand to unite all mankind regardless of religion, race or
country. The idea of excommunication is impossible in the world envisaged
by Baha'u'llah" (89-90).
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Ruth%20White.htm
--
The Baha'i Faith & Religious Freedom of Conscience
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/
See 2007 - Lawsuit by Wilmette NSA Against Other Denominations
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/
Dr. C. (Charles) Ainsworth Mitchell
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/CAMitchell_Report.htm
seon
2009-07-27 03:35:39 UTC
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Post by All Bad
Post by seon
What about Australia where you have to vote. Do Bahais still boycot
voting? If so how do they get away with it?
Hi Seon,
Don't confuse someone's misperception with reality. Though Baha'is do
avoid partisan politics, they do vote in elections in their states,
cities/towns/counties and nations, voting for the best candidate.
- All Bad
Good because if bahais weren't allowed to vote in Australia well that sounds
like a cult to me.

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