Discussion:
Challenge to "Viv Jacobson" and the TRB IT Committee Peanut Gallery
(too old to reply)
Ruhaniya
2009-01-30 09:57:25 UTC
Permalink
Get me an official statement from your supreme body, dated, signed and
verifiable, stating unequivocally for the record that no Haifan Baha'i
Internet Committee whether presently or in the past has ever existed.
Anything other than this statement by the UHJ will be taken by logical
and legal inference to be an affirmation of the IT committee's
existence together with all the allegations thus far submitted
regarding its activities.

You have 28 days to comply.

W
Viv
2009-01-30 11:07:23 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ruhaniya
Get me an official statement from your supreme body, dated, signed and
verifiable, stating unequivocally for the record that no Haifan Baha'i
Internet Committee whether presently or in the past has ever existed.
Anything other than this statement by the UHJ will be taken by logical
and legal inference to be an affirmation of the IT committee's
existence together with all the allegations thus far submitted
regarding its activities.
You have 28 days to comply.
W
Standard Nima procedure - make things up and demand that the Baha'i
administration officially deny them - so much easier than actually
providing evidence for your assertions isn't it?

As has been pointed out before, the onus is on the one making the
allegations to produce the evidence, not on the victims of the
allegations to disprove them. But then you know that very well, don't
you?

Just another shallow tactic on your part. But thanks for shifting the
goalposts on the subject, it's such a clear admisison to all that
you've lost the argument.

V.
Ruhaniya
2009-02-01 06:01:55 UTC
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We have met the onus of proving the existence of an IT committee that
engages in what has been alleged. The onus is now on the UHJ to
disapprove its existence by providing an unequivocally worded public
statement. Anything less is an affirmation.

The ball is in your court. You have now 26 days.

W
r***@yahoo.co.uk
2009-02-03 01:22:35 UTC
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Post by Ruhaniya
We have met the onus of proving the existence of an IT committee that
engages in what has been alleged. The onus is now on the UHJ to
disapprove its existence by providing an unequivocally worded public
statement. Anything less is an affirmation.
The ball is in your court. You have now 26 days.
W
Who are you talking to? Who has 26 days to do what and why should they
pay the slightest attention to you?

Andrew.
Ruhaniya
2009-02-03 02:37:33 UTC
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You now have 24 days.

W
Ruhaniya
2009-02-03 02:53:24 UTC
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Post by r***@yahoo.co.uk
Who are you talking to?
To duplititous, two-faced cultist eedjits like you who pretend to be
ex-bahai/unenrolled bahais on talisman9 but a BIGS on TRB and SRB.

W
All Bad
2009-01-30 11:09:14 UTC
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Post by Ruhaniya
Get me an official statement from your supreme body, dated, signed and
verifiable, stating unequivocally for the record that no Haifan Baha'i
Internet Committee whether presently or in the past has ever existed.
Anything other than this statement by the UHJ will be taken by logical
and legal inference to be an affirmation of the IT committee's
existence together with all the allegations thus far submitted
regarding its activities.
You have 28 days to comply.
Oh, this is not so new after all. Last year there was the 19 Demands.

http://groups.google.com/group/talk.religion.bahai/msg/9bfd68d32f0a5734

So, are you going to hold your breathe, sue me, claim to have physically
challenged me, or just make new threats, you pathetic poser?

- All Bad
m***@gmail.com
2009-01-30 11:58:42 UTC
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Post by Ruhaniya
Get me an official statement from your supreme body, dated, signed and
verifiable, stating unequivocally for the record that no Haifan Baha'i
Internet Committee whether presently or in the past has ever existed.
Anything other than this statement by the UHJ will be taken by logical
and legal inference to be an affirmation of the IT committee's
existence together with all the allegations thus far submitted
regarding its activities.
You have 28 days to comply.
Oh, this is not so new after all.  Last year there was the 19 Demands.
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.religion.bahai/msg/9bfd68d32f0a5734
So, are you going to hold your breathe, sue me, claim to have physically
challenged me, or just make new threats, you pathetic poser?
- All Bad
So why are there no official responses? If you could make this go away
so easily, with confirmation from the very top of the Baha'i
organization (which should not be difficult if it's not an issue), why
don't you? If you've got the goods, you should do everything in your
power to make them available. But you don't. You just stall, and
misdirect. 19 demands? If you walked your talk, there should have been
19 official responses. Simple as that. Considering what's at stake,
meeting demands like this isn't hard. Governments do it all the time,
and dedicate entire teams to addressing such requests for
clarification. Oh, but of course, there's the 'we don't respond to
fantasists' reply. How convenient. What a total joke.
Viv
2009-01-30 12:59:27 UTC
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Post by m***@gmail.com
So why are there no official responses?
Because (back to the basics) the onus is on the person making the
allegations to produce the evidence, not the victuim to respond to
every baseless allegation they conjure up.

Not too long ago Nima demanded the Baha'is dig up the remains of the
Bab and subject them to DNA analysis. Nobody jumped through that
particular hoop for him either.
Post by m***@gmail.com
Considering what's at stake,
What is at stake, other than Nima (proven liar who admits he'll say
anything against the Baha'is) and his current sole faithful supporter
spamming away?

V.
m***@gmail.com
2009-01-31 00:02:25 UTC
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Post by Viv
Post by m***@gmail.com
So why are there no official responses?
Because (back to the basics) the onus is on the person making the
allegations to produce the evidence, not the victuim to respond to
every baseless allegation they conjure up.
The bases for the relevant allegations have absolutely been provided,
including the 1995 template for a Baha'i Internet committee.
Post by Viv
Not too long ago Nima demanded the Baha'is dig up the remains of the
Bab and subject them to DNA analysis. Nobody jumped through that
particular hoop for him either.
Post by m***@gmail.com
Considering what's at stake,
What is at stake, other than Nima (proven liar who admits he'll say
anything against the Baha'is) and his current sole faithful supporter
spamming away?
V.
You perfectly understand what's at stake. You wouldn't be responding
in such a frantic manner if you didn't.
All Bad
2009-01-31 13:59:44 UTC
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Post by Ruhaniya
Get me an official statement from your supreme body, dated, signed and
verifiable, stating unequivocally for the record that no Haifan Baha'i
Internet Committee whether presently or in the past has ever existed.
Anything other than this statement by the UHJ will be taken by logical
and legal inference to be an affirmation of the IT committee's
existence together with all the allegations thus far submitted
regarding its activities.
You have 28 days to comply.
Oh, this is not so new after all. Last year there was the 19 Demands.
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.religion.bahai/msg/9bfd68d32f0a5734
So, are you going to hold your breathe, sue me, claim to have physically
challenged me, or just make new threats, you pathetic poser?
- All Bad
MIA1: So why are there no official responses? If you could make

AB: So, which moon of Saturn are you from? On the home planet, not the
provincial worlds, official responses follow after official inquiries. If
someone calls me an asks a question, I look into it and call them back.
They don't get a letter, on letterhead, with the answer to a question they
phoned in. So, really, why would there be an official response to W posting
on usenet, something from the previous millenium?

MIA1: this go away so easily, with confirmation from the very top of
the Baha'iorganization (which should not be difficult if it's not an issue),

AB: Nothing is here to go away. If W is not claiming that the BCCA is
bugging his bathroom, he is accusing pacifist scientists and engineers of
war crimes, or accusing Viv of being Paul Hammond, or Bill Garlington, or
some other drug induced fantasy. There isn't even much point to a serious
but unofficial response. But in this case, check out the BCCA web site
yourself.

http://www.BCCA.org/

AB: It has the evil table of sunrise and sunset times! Clearly the Baha'is
are manipulating the earth's rotation to get advantage!!!!!
http://www.bcca.org/misc/fasttime/

AB: Don't forget the mind control web page for downloading zombie firmware
updates!
http://www.bcca.org/misc/qiblih/

AB: And so it goes. You would ask for an official response? What are you
smoking?

MIA1: why don't you? If you've got the goods, you should do everything in
your
power to make them available. But you don't. You just stall, and

AB: Rsponse to W is futile. He has the BCCA web site. He is free to make
a new handle and try to join. Maybe he has! Whatever he sees he dismisses
as a cover for some sinister plot for world domination, on even days, and on
odd days, it is a completely irrelevent vestige of a cult on its dying
grasp. Who but you would bother trying to seriously keep up? I doubt very
much your feigned credulity in W's allegations.

- All Bad

misdirect. 19 demands? If you walked your talk, there should have been
19 official responses. Simple as that. Considering what's at stake,
meeting demands like this isn't hard. Governments do it all the time,
and dedicate entire teams to addressing such requests for
clarification. Oh, but of course, there's the 'we don't respond to
fantasists' reply. How convenient. What a total joke.
Ruhaniya
2009-02-01 06:08:19 UTC
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Post by Ruhaniya
Get me an official statement from your supreme body, dated, signed and
verifiable, stating unequivocally for the record that no Haifan Baha'i
Internet Committee whether presently or in the past has ever existed.
Anything other than this statement by the UHJ will be taken by logical
and legal inference to be an affirmation of the IT committee's
existence together with all the allegations thus far submitted
regarding its activities.
You have 28 days to comply.
Oh, this is not so new after all.  Last year there was the 19 Demands.
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.religion.bahai/msg/9bfd68d32f0a5734
Thanks. Time to repost them, I see.

W
Viv
2009-02-02 09:38:28 UTC
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Post by Ruhaniya
Oh, this is not so new after all.  Last year there was the 19 Demands.
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.religion.bahai/msg/9bfd68d32f0a5734
Thanks. Time to repost them, I see.
W-
Yes, because everyone was soooooooo impressed with them previously.



Nima’s admission
Post by Ruhaniya
Bottom line - Nima doesn't like Baha'is or their beliefs, he doesn't
think they should be accorded the same rights as other people, and he
will say anything to try to do them down. Sometimes he likes the IRI,
sometimes he likes the Shah, sometimes he pretends to run with one
crowd, sometimes with another, but this is the one constant.
There you go! You finally figured it all out. Congratulations.

DEATH TO BAHAISM!

W

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_frm/thread/8a18c7fb9845d4cb?hl=en&scoring=d&
Death to Haifan Bahaism
2009-02-03 03:14:24 UTC
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Originally posted Jan. 30.
--
Get me an official statement from your supreme body, dated, signed and
verifiable, stating unequivocally for the record that no Haifan Baha'i
Internet Committee whether presently or in the past has ever existed.
Anything other than this statement by the UHJ will be taken by logical
and legal inference to be an affirmation of the IT committee's
existence together with all the allegations thus far submitted
regarding its activities.

You have 28 days to comply.


W
r***@yahoo.co.uk
2009-02-03 14:53:45 UTC
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Post by Death to Haifan Bahaism
Originally posted Jan. 30.
--
Get me an official statement from your supreme body, dated, signed and
verifiable, stating unequivocally for the record that no Haifan Baha'i
Internet Committee whether presently or in the past has ever existed.
Anything other than this statement by the UHJ will be taken by logical
and legal inference to be an affirmation of the IT committee's
existence together with all the allegations thus far submitted
regarding its activities.
You have 28 days to comply.
W
Wow. You have a strange view of your own importance. If you want the
UHJ to do something I suggest you write to them yourself. Posting
something on a public internet group addressed to nobody in particular
is just odd.

Regarding the substance of your question, everyone knows the BCCA
exists. Why would you want the UHJ to write to you to confirm it? What
would it prove if they did?

Andrew.
Ruhaniya
2009-02-04 03:13:50 UTC
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Post by r***@yahoo.co.uk
Post by Death to Haifan Bahaism
Originally posted Jan. 30.
--
Get me an official statement from your supreme body, dated, signed and
verifiable, stating unequivocally for the record that no Haifan Baha'i
Internet Committee whether presently or in the past has ever existed.
Anything other than this statement by the UHJ will be taken by logical
and legal inference to be an affirmation of the IT committee's
existence together with all the allegations thus far submitted
regarding its activities.
You have 28 days to comply.
W
Wow. You have a strange view of your own importance.
Wow, for you, hack! Apparently my importance has weighed so heavily
with your masters in Haifa that they operate an entire sub-committee
of the IT committee which is paying you to be on TRB devoted
exclusively to moi. How's that for importance!
Post by r***@yahoo.co.uk
If you want the
UHJ to do something I suggest you write to them yourself.
I don't write to Fascists living on ZioNazi hills of doom. I point a
gun at them with the finger ready on the trigger.

<misdirection snip>


W
PaulHammond
2009-02-16 23:50:39 UTC
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Post by Ruhaniya
You have 28 days to comply.
W
Haha! Seems like I missed some fun in the weeks I wasn't looking in
here!

Hey, Nima - you're the one making with the accusations. It's YOUR job
to prove them. Not everyone else's to disprove them.

Nima - if you DON'T provide absolute proof that leprechauns don't live
inside your brain within the next 3 days, that will be a definite
admission that the wee irish fellas have possessed you and you're
working for them. Hows about THAT for an argument?
Ruhaniya
2009-02-17 02:41:45 UTC
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10 days to go...
Death to Haifan Bahaism
2009-03-01 10:01:15 UTC
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Time elapsed.

All opportunity has been provided to the Haifan bahaim universal house
of justice to unequivocally declare that it does employ an
international propaganda Internet Committee, several whose members are
on the USENET group TRB. Never again will the peanut gallery be able
to declare that no such committee exists when there is a categorical
reluctance by Haifan bahaim authorities to issue any kind of statement
on the matter.

The matter is now closed, it is unequivocal that the Internet
Committee does in fact exist.

W
All Bad
2009-03-01 13:10:47 UTC
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Post by Death to Haifan Bahaism
Time elapsed.
All opportunity has been provided to the Haifan bahaim universal house
of justice to unequivocally declare that it does employ an
I don't know that they would just blurt this kind of thing out. You don't
just spontaneously blurt out, "I don't like vegemite with marshmallows", do
you?
Post by Death to Haifan Bahaism
international propaganda Internet Committee, several whose members are
on the USENET group TRB. Never again will the peanut gallery be able
Maybe you could email them and ask them your question?
Post by Death to Haifan Bahaism
to declare that no such committee exists when there is a categorical
reluctance by Haifan bahaim authorities to issue any kind of statement
on the matter.
The matter is now closed, it is unequivocal that the Internet
Committee does in fact exist.
Was this the day of ignominy, a day you failed to ask the UHJ if there was a
comittee thwarting your parrottings on TRB? It is even a goofy question.
It would not take anything to counter your rantings. I can see why you
would not ask them the question. Case closed. Your reluctance to ask them
is a tacit concession that you are a nutter.

- All Bad
Ruhaniya
2009-03-02 02:36:20 UTC
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CAUTION NON-BAHAIS

On Mar 1, 11:10 pm, "All Bad" <***@md.metrocast.net>
wrote:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Pat_Kohli

Pat Kohli, or Patrick Kohli, is a member of the Haifan Baha'i Faith[1]
who makes regular contributions to the USENET newsgroup
talk.religion.bahai[2]. He is a computer programmer who has worked on
software for various projects, including military systems.

Contents [hide]
1 Background
2 Articles and Resources
2.1 Related SourceWatch Articles
2.2 References
2.3 External Articles

[edit]Background
He "is a computer scientist assigned to 4.5.3.3. He works for PMA-231
as the Open Architecture (OA) IPT lead, in the OA/FORCEnet IPT of the
Network Centric Warfare IPT. Prior to this he worked at Saint Inigoes
for 4.5 and developed a prototype next generation flight data
recorder, using COTS components, to meet incident reporting,
maintenance and FOQA needs. Pat also supported the old PMA-282 which
did weapon control systems for guided missiles. Pat has an MS in
computer Information Systems from Florida Tech." [3]

"Pat Kohli, NCW Open Architecture Lead, demonstrated how the E-2/C-2
program office (PMA-231) is continuously evaluating and implementing
software modernization to facilitate transition of the existing E-2
operational flight program to an environment using commercially
available systems. Venlet said, "The Naval Aviation Enterprise has
embraced open architecture as a fundamental building block of weapon
system development from its very inception. Our government/industry
teams continue to leverage these open system strategies and concepts
in achieving reduction in overall development cycle times and
delivering increased system capabilities to the Fleet faster and
cheaper. The advantages of integrating open architecture designs and
contracting strategies are measurable and pronounced as is
substantiated by our E-2D Advanced Hawkeye and P-8 Multi-Mission
Aircraft development programs. The key to continued success will be
maintaining the close partnership with industry experts, as we provide
the right capabilities, at the right time and right cost to the joint
warfighter."The E-2 Hawkeye team has been representing and directly
supporting Venlet's executive office - the aviation domain lead for
open architecture initiatives - since June 2004, because of its role
as a battle management command and control platform and a central
network communications node in aviation. E-2 Program Manager Capt.
Randy Mahrsaid, "Today's evolving E-2 open architecture model paves
the way for a more mature system to be used by the E-2D prior to it
taking its place in the fleet."[3]

Pat Kohli has maintained a consistent web presence since the late
1990s, particularly on USENET, addressing both external critics and
dissenters within the Haifan Baha'i Faith tradition to which he
belongs [5]. In 1998, he voted against the creation of the USENET
group, talk.religion.bahai, as an un-moderated discussion forum for
issues relating to the Baha'i faith [4]. Official discussion regarding
the creation of this group may also be found at: [6]. He posts under
the handles Mr All Bad and All_Bad [5]

[edit]Articles and Resources
[edit]Related SourceWatch Articles
[edit]References
$B",(B Letter from Assistant Secretary, Kishan Manocha, on Behalf of
National Spiritual Assembly of the Baha'is of the United Kingdom [1],
dated October 8, 2002, Accessed 17 February, 2009.
$B",(B Discussion Archive of USENET group Talk.Religion.Baha'i, [2],
Accessed February 17, 2009
$B",(B 3.0 3.1 Drema Ballengee-Grunst, "Assistant SecNav visits NAVAIR T&E
laboratory", November 10, 2005.
$B",(B Record of votes cast regarding the creation of the USENET group,
talk.religion.bahai,[3], Accessed February 17, 2009.
$B",(B Excerpt from USENET group talk.religion.bahai,[4], Accessed February
17, 2009.
[edit]External Articles

Retrieved from "http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Pat_Kohli"
Categories: United States | Religion | Military | War/peace
p***@onetel.net.uk
2009-03-01 18:40:05 UTC
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On 1 Mar, 10:01, Death to Haifan Bahaism
Post by Death to Haifan Bahaism
Time elapsed.
All opportunity has been provided to the Haifan bahaim universal house
of justice to unequivocally declare that it does employ an
international propaganda Internet Committee, several whose members are
on the USENET group TRB. Never again will the peanut gallery be able
to declare that no such committee exists when there is a categorical
reluctance by Haifan bahaim authorities to issue any kind of statement
on the matter.
The matter is now closed, it is unequivocal that the Internet
Committee  does in fact exist.
W
18 Feb + 9 days - I make that 27 Feb.

But Nima uses different maths, it appears.
Ruhaniya
2009-03-02 02:34:33 UTC
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On Mar 2, 4:40 am, ***@onetel.net.uk wrote:


"First, I do believe, based on Hammond's refusal to say why he is
interested in the Baha'i Faith and his frequent defense of the AO,
that he is probably working for them."


-- Eric Stetson, September 2003
Post by p***@onetel.net.uk
18 Feb + 9 days - I make that 27 Feb.
But Nima uses different maths, it appears.
Apparently even with a maths degree you claim you have you still
cannot count how many days there are from January 30 to March 1.

W
p***@onetel.net.uk
2009-03-02 23:40:38 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ruhaniya
"First, I do believe, based on Hammond's refusal to say why he is
interested in the Baha'i Faith and his frequent defense of the AO,
that he is probably working for them."
-- Eric Stetson, September 2003
Post by p***@onetel.net.uk
18 Feb + 9 days - I make that 27 Feb.
But Nima uses different maths, it appears.
Apparently even with a maths degree you claim you have you still
cannot count how many days there are from January 30 to March 1.
W
I'm going from your post on this thread dated "18 feb" which said "9
days left".

Snot my fault if you miscounted when you made that post!

Paul

PS - There is no Baha'i "Black ops" IT Committee.
All Bad
2009-03-02 23:56:35 UTC
Permalink
"First, I do believe, based on Azal's refusal to say why he is
interested in the Baha'i Faith and his frequent defense of the AO,
that he is probably working for them."
-- Eric Stetson, October 2007
Post by p***@onetel.net.uk
18 Feb + 9 days - I make that 27 Feb.
But Nima uses different maths, it appears.
Apparently even with a maths degree you claim you have you still
cannot count how many days there are from January 30 to March 1.
W
PH: I'm going from your post on this thread dated "18 feb" which said "9
days left".

PH: Snot my fault if you miscounted when you made that post!

AB: He also yammered about November.

"It is the 26th of November here in OZ; and in it is the 25th in the
northern hemisphere. You've spoken too soon. There's two more days to
go."
W. Azal 25 February 2009
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Talk/talk.religion.bahai/2009-02/msg00295.html

PH: PS - There is no Baha'i "Black ops" IT Committee.

AB: There is in the November of late February, apparently, in what passes
for W's mind, the only place where the November of February can happen.

- All Bad
Ruhaniya
2009-03-03 00:41:11 UTC
Permalink
CAUTION NON-BAHAIS

On Mar 3, 9:56 am, "All Bad" <***@md.metrocast.net>
wrote:


http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Pat_Kohli

Pat Kohli, or Patrick Kohli, is a member of the Haifan Baha'i Faith
[1]
who makes regular contributions to the USENET newsgroup
talk.religion.bahai[2]. He is a computer programmer who has worked on
software for various projects, including military systems.


Contents [hide]
1 Background
2 Articles and Resources
2.1 Related SourceWatch Articles
2.2 References
2.3 External Articles


[edit]Background
He "is a computer scientist assigned to 4.5.3.3. He works for PMA-231
as the Open Architecture (OA) IPT lead, in the OA/FORCEnet IPT of the
Network Centric Warfare IPT. Prior to this he worked at Saint Inigoes
for 4.5 and developed a prototype next generation flight data
recorder, using COTS components, to meet incident reporting,
maintenance and FOQA needs. Pat also supported the old PMA-282 which
did weapon control systems for guided missiles. Pat has an MS in
computer Information Systems from Florida Tech." [3]


"Pat Kohli, NCW Open Architecture Lead, demonstrated how the E-2/C-2
program office (PMA-231) is continuously evaluating and implementing
software modernization to facilitate transition of the existing E-2
operational flight program to an environment using commercially
available systems. Venlet said, "The Naval Aviation Enterprise has
embraced open architecture as a fundamental building block of weapon
system development from its very inception. Our government/industry
teams continue to leverage these open system strategies and concepts
in achieving reduction in overall development cycle times and
delivering increased system capabilities to the Fleet faster and
cheaper. The advantages of integrating open architecture designs and
contracting strategies are measurable and pronounced as is
substantiated by our E-2D Advanced Hawkeye and P-8 Multi-Mission
Aircraft development programs. The key to continued success will be
maintaining the close partnership with industry experts, as we
provide
the right capabilities, at the right time and right cost to the joint
warfighter."The E-2 Hawkeye team has been representing and directly
supporting Venlet's executive office - the aviation domain lead for
open architecture initiatives - since June 2004, because of its role
as a battle management command and control platform and a central
network communications node in aviation. E-2 Program Manager Capt.
Randy Mahrsaid, "Today's evolving E-2 open architecture model paves
the way for a more mature system to be used by the E-2D prior to it
taking its place in the fleet."[3]


Pat Kohli has maintained a consistent web presence since the late
1990s, particularly on USENET, addressing both external critics and
dissenters within the Haifan Baha'i Faith tradition to which he
belongs [5]. In 1998, he voted against the creation of the USENET
group, talk.religion.bahai, as an un-moderated discussion forum for
issues relating to the Baha'i faith [4]. Official discussion
regarding
the creation of this group may also be found at: [6]. He posts under
the handles Mr All Bad and All_Bad [5]


[edit]Articles and Resources
[edit]Related SourceWatch Articles
[edit]References
$B",(B Letter from Assistant Secretary, Kishan Manocha, on Behalf of
National Spiritual Assembly of the Baha'is of the United Kingdom [1],
dated October 8, 2002, Accessed 17 February, 2009.
$B",(B Discussion Archive of USENET group Talk.Religion.Baha'i, [2],
Accessed February 17, 2009
$B",(B 3.0 3.1 Drema Ballengee-Grunst, "Assistant SecNav visits NAVAIR T&E
laboratory", November 10, 2005.
$B",(B Record of votes cast regarding the creation of the USENET group,
talk.religion.bahai,[3], Accessed February 17, 2009.
$B",(B Excerpt from USENET group talk.religion.bahai,[4], Accessed
February
17, 2009.
[edit]External Articles


Retrieved from "http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Pat_Kohli"
Categories: United States | Religion | Military | War/peace
Ruhaniya
2009-03-03 00:39:40 UTC
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CAUTION NON-BAHAIS
Post by p***@onetel.net.uk
I'm going from your post on this thread dated "18 feb" which said "9
days left".
That's no excuse. Because the thread began on January 30.

"First, I do believe, based on Hammond's refusal to say why he is
interested in the Baha'i Faith and his frequent defense of the AO,
that he is probably working for them."

-- Eric Stetson, September 2003
All Bad
2009-03-03 01:11:22 UTC
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"Ruhaniya" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:f4e8da9d-abb8-438c-ab3d-***@p6g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
CAUTION NON-BAHAIS
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I'm going from your post on this thread dated "18 feb" which said "9
days left".
WA: That's no excuse. Because the thread began on January 30.

AB: How did you get to "November"?

"It is the 26th of November here in OZ; and in it is the 25th in the
northern hemisphere. You've spoken too soon. There's two more days to go."
- W, 25 Feb 2009


- All Bad
Death to Haifan Bahaism
2009-03-03 01:19:26 UTC
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CAUTION NON-BAHAIS

On Mar 3, 11:11 am, "All Bad" <***@md.metrocast.net>
wrote:


http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Pat_kohli

Pat Kohli, or Patrick Kohli, is a member of the Haifan Baha'i Faith[1]
who makes regular contributions to the USENET newsgroup
talk.religion.bahai[2]. He is a computer programmer who has worked on
software for various projects, including military systems.

Contents [hide]
1 Background
2 Articles and Resources
2.1 Related SourceWatch Articles
2.2 References
2.3 External Articles

[edit]Background
He "is a computer scientist assigned to 4.5.3.3. He works for PMA-231
as the Open Architecture (OA) IPT lead, in the OA/FORCEnet IPT of the
Network Centric Warfare IPT. Prior to this he worked at Saint Inigoes
for 4.5 and developed a prototype next generation flight data
recorder, using COTS components, to meet incident reporting,
maintenance and FOQA needs. Pat also supported the old PMA-282 which
did weapon control systems for guided missiles. Pat has an MS in
computer Information Systems from Florida Tech." [3]

"Pat Kohli, NCW Open Architecture Lead, demonstrated how the E-2/C-2
program office (PMA-231) is continuously evaluating and implementing
software modernization to facilitate transition of the existing E-2
operational flight program to an environment using commercially
available systems. Venlet said, "The Naval Aviation Enterprise has
embraced open architecture as a fundamental building block of weapon
system development from its very inception. Our government/industry
teams continue to leverage these open system strategies and concepts
in achieving reduction in overall development cycle times and
delivering increased system capabilities to the Fleet faster and
cheaper. The advantages of integrating open architecture designs and
contracting strategies are measurable and pronounced as is
substantiated by our E-2D Advanced Hawkeye and P-8 Multi-Mission
Aircraft development programs. The key to continued success will be
maintaining the close partnership with industry experts, as we provide
the right capabilities, at the right time and right cost to the joint
warfighter."The E-2 Hawkeye team has been representing and directly
supporting Venlet's executive office - the aviation domain lead for
open architecture initiatives - since June 2004, because of its role
as a battle management command and control platform and a central
network communications node in aviation. E-2 Program Manager Capt.
Randy Mahrsaid, "Today's evolving E-2 open architecture model paves
the way for a more mature system to be used by the E-2D prior to it
taking its place in the fleet."[3]

Pat Kohli has maintained a consistent web presence since the late
1990s, particularly on USENET, addressing both external critics and
dissenters within the Haifan Baha'i Faith tradition to which he
belongs [5]. In 1998, he voted against the creation of the USENET
group, talk.religion.bahai, as an un-moderated discussion forum for
issues relating to the Baha'i faith [4]. Official discussion regarding
the creation of this group may also be found at: [6]. He posts under
the handles Mr All Bad and All_Bad [5]

[edit]Articles and Resources
[edit]Related SourceWatch Articles
[edit]References
$B",(B Letter from Assistant Secretary, Kishan Manocha, on Behalf of
National Spiritual Assembly of the Baha'is of the United Kingdom [1],
dated October 8, 2002, Accessed 17 February, 2009.
$B",(B Discussion Archive of USENET group Talk.Religion.Baha'i, [2],
Accessed February 17, 2009
$B",(B 3.0 3.1 Drema Ballengee-Grunst, "Assistant SecNav visits NAVAIR T&E
laboratory", November 10, 2005.
$B",(B Record of votes cast regarding the creation of the USENET group,
talk.religion.bahai,[3], Accessed February 17, 2009.
$B",(B Excerpt from USENET group talk.religion.bahai,[4], Accessed February
17, 2009.
[edit]External Articles

Retrieved from "http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Pat_Kohli"
Categories: United States | Religion | Military | War/peace

Ruhaniya
2009-03-02 02:31:47 UTC
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Time elapsed.

All opportunity has been provided to the Haifan bahaim universal house
of justice to unequivocally declare that it does not employ an
international propaganda Internet Committee, several whose members are
on the USENET group TRB. Never again will the peanut gallery be able
to declare that no such committee exists when there is a categorical
reluctance by Haifan bahaim authorities to issue any kind of statement
on the matter.

The matter is now closed, it is unequivocal that the Internet
Committee does in fact exist.

W
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