Mp3 File Clip of US Court of Appeals regarding Reform Bahai

[Reform Bahai Faith]

Re: 7th Circuit Ct of Appeals Judges hammer NSA's attorney

Friends,

Alternatively to listening to the entire recording of the Court
proceedings,
for those interested in Reform Bahai, I've excerpted a three-minute
clip that
follows the partial transcript available at the Orthodox Baha'i blog
and at
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/USCourt_Appeals09.htm

The audio Mp3 clip, in particular, reveals the NSA attempt to deprive
other
Bahai denominations of their Constitutional right of religious freedom
and
conscience, while Judge Bauer specifically mentions Reform Bahai.

US Court of Appeals 2-20-09. Mp3 file.
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/archives/US_Court_of_Appeals_2-20-09.mp3

Bahai regards,

Frederick Glaysher

95 Theses - On Bahai Liberty - Articles - Abdu'l-Baha's Covenant
The Reform Bahai Faith
www.ReformBahai.org

[JG9]

Post by Reform Bahai Faith
Re: 7th Circuit Ct of Appeals Judges hammer NSA's attorney
Friends,
Alternatively to listening to the entire recording of the Court
proceedings,
for those interested in Reform Bahai, I've excerpted a three-minute
clip that
follows the partial transcript available at the Orthodox Baha'i blog
and athttp://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/USCourt_Appeals09.htm
The audio Mp3 clip, in particular, reveals the NSA attempt to deprive
other
Bahai denominations of their Constitutional right of religious freedom
and
conscience, while Judge Bauer specifically mentions Reform Bahai.
US Court of Appeals 2-20-09. Mp3 file.http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/archives/US_Court_of_Appeals...
Bahai regards,
Frederick Glaysher
95 Theses - On Bahai Liberty - Articles - Abdu'l-Baha's Covenant
The Reform Bahai Faithwww.ReformBahai.org

Not only does Judge Bauer mention Reform Baha'i but he insists that
the NSA's attorney answer whether or not someone could call himself a
Reform Baha'i, and the NSA attorney finally is forced to admit the
NSA's position which is that nobody can call themselves a Baha'i
unless they are recognized by his client's UHJ.

Jeffrey

[Seon Ferguson]

Post by JG9

Post by Reform Bahai Faith
Re: 7th Circuit Ct of Appeals Judges hammer NSA's attorney
Friends,
Alternatively to listening to the entire recording of the Court
proceedings,
for those interested in Reform Bahai, I've excerpted a three-minute
clip that
follows the partial transcript available at the Orthodox Baha'i blog
and athttp://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/USCourt_Appeals09.htm
The audio Mp3 clip, in particular, reveals the NSA attempt to deprive
other
Bahai denominations of their Constitutional right of religious freedom
and
conscience, while Judge Bauer specifically mentions Reform Bahai.
US Court of Appeals 2-20-09. Mp3
file.http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/archives/US_Court_of_Appeals...
Bahai regards,
Frederick Glaysher
95 Theses - On Bahai Liberty - Articles - Abdu'l-Baha's Covenant
The Reform Bahai Faithwww.ReformBahai.org

Not only does Judge Bauer mention Reform Baha'i but he insists that
the NSA's attorney answer whether or not someone could call himself a
Reform Baha'i, and the NSA attorney finally is forced to admit the
NSA's position which is that nobody can call themselves a Baha'i
unless they are recognized by his client's UHJ.
Jeffrey

People are allowed to cal themselves reformed Christians or reformed
Catholics. Why can't the nsa just let them call themselves whatever they
want?

[PaulHammond]

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by JG9

Post by Reform Bahai Faith
Re: 7th Circuit Ct of Appeals Judges hammer NSA's attorney
Friends,
Alternatively to listening to the entire recording of the Court
proceedings,
for those interested in Reform Bahai, I've excerpted a three-minute
clip that
follows the partial transcript available at the Orthodox Baha'i blog
and athttp://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/USCourt_Appeals09.htm
The audio Mp3 clip, in particular, reveals the NSA attempt to deprive
other
Bahai denominations of their Constitutional right of religious freedom
and
conscience, while Judge Bauer specifically mentions Reform Bahai.
US Court of Appeals 2-20-09. Mp3
file.http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/archives/US_Court_of_Appeals...
Bahai regards,
Frederick Glaysher
95 Theses - On Bahai Liberty - Articles - Abdu'l-Baha's Covenant
The Reform Bahai Faithwww.ReformBahai.org

Not only does Judge Bauer mention Reform Baha'i but he insists that
the NSA's attorney answer whether or not someone could call himself a
Reform Baha'i, and the NSA attorney finally is forced to admit the
NSA's position which is that nobody can call themselves a Baha'i
unless they are recognized by his client's UHJ.
Jeffrey

People are allowed to cal themselves reformed Christians or reformed
Catholics. Why can't the nsa just let them call themselves whatever they
want?

I think the whole point of this case is that it ISN'T up to the US NSA
to tell people what they are and aren't allowed to call themselves.

[Seon Ferguson]

Post by PaulHammond

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by JG9

Post by Reform Bahai Faith
Re: 7th Circuit Ct of Appeals Judges hammer NSA's attorney
Friends,
Alternatively to listening to the entire recording of the Court
proceedings,
for those interested in Reform Bahai, I've excerpted a three-minute
clip that
follows the partial transcript available at the Orthodox Baha'i blog
and athttp://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/USCourt_Appeals09.htm
The audio Mp3 clip, in particular, reveals the NSA attempt to deprive
other
Bahai denominations of their Constitutional right of religious freedom
and
conscience, while Judge Bauer specifically mentions Reform Bahai.
US Court of Appeals 2-20-09. Mp3
file.http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/archives/US_Court_of_Appeals...
Bahai regards,
Frederick Glaysher
95 Theses - On Bahai Liberty - Articles - Abdu'l-Baha's Covenant
The Reform Bahai Faithwww.ReformBahai.org

Not only does Judge Bauer mention Reform Baha'i but he insists that
the NSA's attorney answer whether or not someone could call himself a
Reform Baha'i, and the NSA attorney finally is forced to admit the
NSA's position which is that nobody can call themselves a Baha'i
unless they are recognized by his client's UHJ.
Jeffrey

People are allowed to cal themselves reformed Christians or reformed
Catholics. Why can't the nsa just let them call themselves whatever they
want?

I think the whole point of this case is that it ISN'T up to the US NSA
to tell people what they are and aren't allowed to call themselves.

It shouldn't be up to the nsa period.

[All Bad]

AB: Fred is raised back to life!

- All Bad

Post by Reform Bahai Faith
Re: 7th Circuit Ct of Appeals Judges hammer NSA's attorney
Friends,
Alternatively to listening to the entire recording of the Court
proceedings,
for those interested in Reform Bahai, I've excerpted a three-minute
clip that
follows the partial transcript available at the Orthodox Baha'i blog
and at
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/USCourt_Appeals09.htm
The audio Mp3 clip, in particular, reveals the NSA attempt to deprive
other
Bahai denominations of their Constitutional right of religious freedom
and
conscience, while Judge Bauer specifically mentions Reform Bahai.
US Court of Appeals 2-20-09. Mp3 file.
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/archives/US_Court_of_Appeals_2-20-09.mp3
Bahai regards,
Frederick Glaysher
95 Theses - On Bahai Liberty - Articles - Abdu'l-Baha's Covenant
The Reform Bahai Faith
www.ReformBahai.org

[p***@onetel.net.uk]

On 2 Mar, 12:16, Reform Bahai Faith <***@gmail.com> wrote:


Hey! Fred's back!

[Seon Ferguson]

Good luck I think what the nsa is doing to the orthodox Bahai's is
disgraceful.

Post by Reform Bahai Faith
Re: 7th Circuit Ct of Appeals Judges hammer NSA's attorney
Friends,
Alternatively to listening to the entire recording of the Court
proceedings,
for those interested in Reform Bahai, I've excerpted a three-minute
clip that
follows the partial transcript available at the Orthodox Baha'i blog
and at
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/USCourt_Appeals09.htm
The audio Mp3 clip, in particular, reveals the NSA attempt to deprive
other
Bahai denominations of their Constitutional right of religious freedom
and
conscience, while Judge Bauer specifically mentions Reform Bahai.
US Court of Appeals 2-20-09. Mp3 file.
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/archives/US_Court_of_Appeals_2-20-09.mp3
Bahai regards,
Frederick Glaysher
95 Theses - On Bahai Liberty - Articles - Abdu'l-Baha's Covenant
The Reform Bahai Faith
www.ReformBahai.org

[JG9]

Post by Seon Ferguson
Good luck I think what the nsa is doing to the orthodox Bahai's is
disgraceful.

Not only is it disgraceful, but it is extremely hypocritical for them
to run to Congress seeking its condemnation of Iran for persecution of
Baha'is when they are doing the same to us. While the NSA's
persecution of the OBF may be different in scale (but only because the
NSA does not have the power to imprison us or execute us), they are
motivated by the same idea that they perceive us to be heretical and
because we are opposed to their religious authority. It is mind-
boggling for these people to expect the federal courts in the United
States to enforce their version of the Baha'i Faith, to say they are
the one true Faith and everyone else cannot be Baha'is.

It really does not matter, though, whether they get a court order
against us, or whether they have suckered a whole bunch of people so
that they have larger numbers. It does not matter how small we are.
The only thing that matters is what is true and what is false. They
are false and they are destined to fail. Their entire organization is
a house of cards ready to tumble down at any time. Thank God for that!

Jeffrey

[Seon Ferguson]

Post by JG9

Post by Seon Ferguson
Good luck I think what the nsa is doing to the orthodox Bahai's is
disgraceful.

Not only is it disgraceful, but it is extremely hypocritical for them
to run to Congress seeking its condemnation of Iran for persecution of
Baha'is when they are doing the same to us. While the NSA's
persecution of the OBF may be different in scale (but only because the
NSA does not have the power to imprison us or execute us), they are
motivated by the same idea that they perceive us to be heretical and
because we are opposed to their religious authority. It is mind-
boggling for these people to expect the federal courts in the United
States to enforce their version of the Baha'i Faith, to say they are
the one true Faith and everyone else cannot be Baha'is.
It really does not matter, though, whether they get a court order
against us, or whether they have suckered a whole bunch of people so
that they have larger numbers. It does not matter how small we are.
The only thing that matters is what is true and what is false. They
are false and they are destined to fail. Their entire organization is
a house of cards ready to tumble down at any time. Thank God for that!
Jeffrey

You've got that right. Ok Bahai persecution in Iran is bad but what the nsa
is doing to the OBF is bad as well. It is also hypocritical and I don't
support it one bit. no matter what Nima may say about me.

[Ruhaniya]

...it is extremely hypocritical for them
to run to Congress seeking its condemnation of Iran for persecution of
Baha'is when they are doing the same to us.  

Bingo! Nail, hammer and head!! Be careful Jeffrey, next you're going
to find yourself accused of being an agent of the mullahs by the
peanut gallery for daring to express the blatantly obvious! Come to
think of it, and I think Nosrat will probably remember this, on one of
the Persian language blogs back in 2006-2007 that is precisely what
this mob did, i.e. they accused the Orthodox Baha'is of being agents
of the IRI!


W

[Seon Ferguson]

Post by Ruhaniya

...it is extremely hypocritical for them
to run to Congress seeking its condemnation of Iran for persecution of
Baha'is when they are doing the same to us.

Bingo! Nail, hammer and head!! Be careful Jeffrey, next you're going
to find yourself accused of being an agent of the mullahs by the
peanut gallery for daring to express the blatantly obvious! Come to
think of it, and I think Nosrat will probably remember this, on one of
the Persian language blogs back in 2006-2007 that is precisely what
this mob did, i.e. they accused the Orthodox Baha'is of being agents
of the IRI!

Like how you accused me of being a member of the Bahai It committee? Yeah
like the IT Committee will let who it's employing speak out about the
persecution of the OBF in the US. Or the letter sent to that WA guy for
daring to be on a Iranian TV station.

[Death to Haifan Bahaism]

Post by Seon Ferguson
Like how you accused me of being a member of the Bahai It committee?

Which you are, especially in light of your admission to being RUHI-ed
which is a completely Haifan Bahaim gig.

Post by Seon Ferguson
Yeah
like the IT Committee will let who it's employing speak out about the
persecution of the OBF in the US.

You people gratuitously lie when it suits you to maintain appearances,
and your record on that score is well documented.

W

[Seon Ferguson]

Post by Death to Haifan Bahaism

Post by Seon Ferguson
Like how you accused me of being a member of the Bahai It committee?

Which you are, especially in light of your admission to being RUHI-ed
which is a completely Haifan Bahaim gig.

I don't get paid to be ruhi-ed as you call it. But if I did get a job offer
to join the IT committee I would in a heartbeat.

Post by Death to Haifan Bahaism

Post by Seon Ferguson
Yeah
like the IT Committee will let who it's employing speak out about the
persecution of the OBF in the US.

You people gratuitously lie when it suits you to maintain appearances,
and your record on that score is well documented.

Why would I say something I don't believe in deep down?

Post by Death to Haifan Bahaism
W

[Ruhaniya]

Post by Seon Ferguson
Why would I say something I don't believe in deep down?

For the same reason as,

On April 8th 2007, he said:
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/159285f4e31e928c/159320fbbf945202?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=Seon+Ferguson+%2B+jesus#159320fbbf945202
"I agree with you on that. I hate Religion but I still want to be
friends with those trapped in its mind prison. Hopefully one day I
can
work on
making them see they don't have to be a slave to man made dogma to
have a spirituality. Then we wont have an excuse to hate others or be
biggoted or whatever."


On April 21 2007, you said:
https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?passive=true&service=groups2&continue=http://groups.google.com/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/407ed4f5aa7a7f74/a52bb83d1db20027%3Flnk%3Dgst%26q%3DSeon%2BFerguson%2B%252B%2BJesus%2B%2509&cd=US&hl=en
"Please visit this atheists ite
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
fuck you and fuck Jesus to."

[Seon Ferguson]

Post by Ruhaniya

Post by Seon Ferguson
Why would I say something I don't believe in deep down?

For the same reason as,
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/159285f4e31e928c/159320fbbf945202?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=Seon+Ferguson+%2B+jesus#159320fbbf945202
"I agree with you on that. I hate Religion but I still want to be
friends with those trapped in its mind prison. Hopefully one day I
can
work on
making them see they don't have to be a slave to man made dogma to
have a spirituality. Then we wont have an excuse to hate others or be
biggoted or whatever."
https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?passive=true&service=groups2&continue=http://groups.google.com/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/407ed4f5aa7a7f74/a52bb83d1db20027%3Flnk%3Dgst%26q%3DSeon%2BFerguson%2B%252B%2BJesus%2B%2509&cd=US&hl=en
"Please visit this atheists ite
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
fuck you and fuck Jesus to."

At the time i believed that. According to you if anyone ever changes their
mind they are obviously phoney's. Also for the last time
JESUSNEVEREXISTED.COM IS NOT A ATHEIST SITE you can still believe in God and
not believe Jesus existed.

[Aor]

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by Ruhaniya

Post by Seon Ferguson
Why would I say something I don't believe in deep down?

For the same reason as,
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/t...
"I agree with you on that. I hate Religion but I still want to be
friends with those trapped in its mind prison. Hopefully one day I
can
work on
making them see they don't have to be a slave to man made dogma to
have a spirituality. Then we wont have an excuse to hate others or be
biggoted or whatever."
https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?passive=true&service=gro...
"Please visit this atheists ite
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
fuck you and fuck Jesus to."

At the time i believed that. According to you if anyone ever changes their
mind they are obviously phoney's.

No, not everyone, only manipulatable flakes like you who have been
RUHI-ed.

W

[Seon Ferguson]

Post by Aor

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by Ruhaniya

Post by Seon Ferguson
Why would I say something I don't believe in deep down?

For the same reason as,
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/t...
"I agree with you on that. I hate Religion but I still want to be
friends with those trapped in its mind prison. Hopefully one day I
can
work on
making them see they don't have to be a slave to man made dogma to
have a spirituality. Then we wont have an excuse to hate others or be
biggoted or whatever."
https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?passive=true&service=gro...
"Please visit this atheists ite
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
fuck you and fuck Jesus to."

At the time i believed that. According to you if anyone ever changes their
mind they are obviously phoney's.

No, not everyone, only manipulatable flakes like you who have been
RUHI-ed.
W

But the Ruhi books say Jesus was a manifestation of God. They said he
existed while I said he didn't exist. He may have or he may not but no one
is going to hell for not believing in him.

[Ruhaniya]

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by Aor

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by Ruhaniya

Post by Seon Ferguson
Why would I say something I don't believe in deep down?

For the same reason as,
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/t...
"I agree with you on that. I hate Religion but I still want to be
friends with those trapped in its mind prison. Hopefully one day I
can
work on
making them see they don't have to be a slave to man made dogma to
have a spirituality. Then we wont have an excuse to hate others or be
biggoted or whatever."
https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?passive=true&service=gro...
"Please visit this atheists ite
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
fuck you and fuck Jesus to."

At the time i believed that. According to you if anyone ever changes their
mind they are obviously phoney's.

No, not everyone, only manipulatable flakes like you who have been
RUHI-ed.
W

But the Ruhi books say Jesus was a manifestation of God.

And you were gullible enough to take RUHI.

W

[Seon Ferguson]

Post by Ruhaniya

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by Aor

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by Ruhaniya

Post by Seon Ferguson
Why would I say something I don't believe in deep down?

For the same reason as,
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/t...
"I agree with you on that. I hate Religion but I still want to be
friends with those trapped in its mind prison. Hopefully one day I
can
work on
making them see they don't have to be a slave to man made dogma to
have a spirituality. Then we wont have an excuse to hate others or be
biggoted or whatever."
https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?passive=true&service=gro...
"Please visit this atheists ite
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
fuck you and fuck Jesus to."

At the time i believed that. According to you if anyone ever changes their
mind they are obviously phoney's.

No, not everyone, only manipulatable flakes like you who have been
RUHI-ed.
W

But the Ruhi books say Jesus was a manifestation of God.

And you were gullible enough to take RUHI.
W

Only because I liked the woman teaching it. I live in Canberra now and it
doesn't seem as good anymore. My point is the Ruhi book says that Jesus was
a prophet. Now why would I say something that the Ruhi book disagrees with
me on? I also still believe in Reincarnation. Now I can be an Orthodox Bahai
and believe in it as they believe in the independent search for the truth
but with the NSA I'd have to believe everything the Ruhi books say wouldn't
I? And they say after we die we continue our spiritual education in heaven
and that we (our true selves) never existed before we were born. I say we
did exist before we were born. Waaaaay before we were born.

[Ruhaniya]

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by Ruhaniya

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by Aor

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by Ruhaniya

Post by Seon Ferguson
Why would I say something I don't believe in deep down?

For the same reason as,
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/t...
"I agree with you on that. I hate Religion but I still want to be
friends with those trapped in its mind prison. Hopefully one day I
can
work on
making them see they don't have to be a slave to man made dogma to
have a spirituality. Then we wont have an excuse to hate others or be
biggoted or whatever."
https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?passive=true&service=gro...
"Please visit this atheists ite
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
fuck you and fuck Jesus to."

At the time i believed that. According to you if anyone ever changes their
mind they are obviously phoney's.

No, not everyone, only manipulatable flakes like you who have been
RUHI-ed.
W

But the Ruhi books say Jesus was a manifestation of God.

And you were gullible enough to take RUHI.
W

Only because I liked the woman teaching it.

Like or lust? Be careful of Bahai women. They will use their sex
appeal to lure you into their cult. From your photo, you're not
exactly a looker and would probably have to pay someone to get laid.
But be careful even to allow yourself to get pussy whipped by a Bahaim
woman. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

W

[JG9]

Post by Ruhaniya

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by Ruhaniya

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by Aor

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by Ruhaniya

Post by Seon Ferguson
Why would I say something I don't believe in deep down?

For the same reason as,
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/t...
"I agree with you on that. I hate Religion but I still want to be
friends with those trapped in its mind prison. Hopefully one day I
can
work on
making them see they don't have to be a slave to man made dogma to
have a spirituality. Then we wont have an excuse to hate others or be
biggoted or whatever."
https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?passive=true&service=gro...
"Please visit this atheists ite
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
fuck you and fuck Jesus to."

At the time i believed that. According to you if anyone ever changes their
mind they are obviously phoney's.

No, not everyone, only manipulatable flakes like you who have been
RUHI-ed.
W

But the Ruhi books say Jesus was a manifestation of God.

And you were gullible enough to take RUHI.
W

Only because I liked the woman teaching it.

Like or lust? Be careful of Bahai women. They will use their sex
appeal to lure you into their cult. From your photo, you're not
exactly a looker and would probably have to pay someone to get laid.
But be careful even to allow yourself to get pussy whipped by a Bahaim
woman. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
W

At least he would be getting some. I suffered for years in that
organization without any favors at all! But there is still time for
them to bring me back into the fold. Ladies, send photos of your
charms please!

Jeffrey

P.S. to my wife, I am just joking here

[PaulHammond]

Post by JG9
Ladies, send photos of your
charms please!
Jeffrey

Wonderful catchall word, that, "charms" isn't it?

Gloriously non-specific, but naughty-sounding!

Paul

"And then he ate my boy-entrancers"

[Aor]

On Mar 6, 1:30 pm, PaulHammond <***@onetel.net.uk> wrote:

"First, I do believe, based on Hammond's refusal to say why he is
interested in the Baha'i Faith and his frequent defense of the AO,
that he is probably working for them."

-- Eric Stetson, September 2003

Post by PaulHammond
Wonderful catchall word, that, "charms" isn't it?
Gloriously non-specific, but naughty-sounding!

What do you care, you're into boys, aren't you?

W

[PaulHammond]

Post by Aor
"First, I do believe, based on Hammond's refusal to say why he is
interested in the Baha'i Faith and his frequent defense of the AO,
that he is probably working for them."
-- Eric Stetson, September 2003

Post by PaulHammond
Wonderful catchall word, that, "charms" isn't it?
Gloriously non-specific, but naughty-sounding!

What do you care, you're into boys, aren't you?
W

No. But you're into arses, aren't you?

Paul

[All Bad]

Post by Aor
"First, I do believe, based on Hammond's refusal to say why he is
interested in the Baha'i Faith and his frequent defense of the AO,
that he is probably working for them."
-- Eric Stetson, September 2003

Post by PaulHammond
Wonderful catchall word, that, "charms" isn't it?
Gloriously non-specific, but naughty-sounding!

What do you care, you're into boys, aren't you?
W

PH: No. But you're into arses, aren't you?

AB: Only in a platonic way, I'm sure.

- All Bad

[mash_ghasem]

Post by PaulHammond

 Ladies, send photos of your
charms please!
Jeffrey

Wonderful catchall word, that, "charms" isn't it?
Gloriously non-specific, but naughty-sounding!
Paul
"And then he ate my boy-entrancers"

:-) "Mr. Humphries, leave my ******* alone" :-)

.

[Aor]

Post by JG9

Post by Ruhaniya

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by Ruhaniya

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by Aor

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by Ruhaniya

Post by Seon Ferguson
Why would I say something I don't believe in deep down?

For the same reason as,
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/t...
"I agree with you on that. I hate Religion but I still want to be
friends with those trapped in its mind prison. Hopefully one day I
can
work on
making them see they don't have to be a slave to man made dogma to
have a spirituality. Then we wont have an excuse to hate others or
be
biggoted or whatever."
https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?passive=true&service=gro...
"Please visit this atheists ite
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
fuck you and fuck Jesus to."

At the time i believed that. According to you if anyone ever changes
their
mind they are obviously phoney's.

No, not everyone, only manipulatable flakes like you who have been
RUHI-ed.
W

But the Ruhi books say Jesus was a manifestation of God.

And you were gullible enough to take RUHI.
W

Only because I liked the woman teaching it.

Like or lust? Be careful of Bahai women. They will use their sex
appeal to lure you into their cult. From your photo, you're not
exactly a looker and would probably have to pay someone to get laid.
But be careful even to allow yourself to get pussy whipped by a Bahaim
woman. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
W

At least he would be getting some. I suffered for years in that
organization without any favors at all!  

Are you kidding, man? What community did you belong to? The
communities I grew up in - not to mention the youth conferences I went
to - where fuck-fest galores. It was disgusting, really. The first
witnessing of this sleaze-baggery was at a youth conference in
Adelaide in late 1985. A whole Bahaim youth orgy suddenly erupted, one
of the people there even getting caught doing the dirty with their own
cousin!

W

[mash_ghasem]

Post by Aor

Post by JG9

Post by Ruhaniya

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by Ruhaniya

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by Aor

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by Ruhaniya

Post by Seon Ferguson
Why would I say something I don't believe in deep down?

For the same reason as,
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/t...
"I agree with you on that. I hate Religion but I still want to be
friends with those trapped in its mind prison. Hopefully one day I
can
work on
making them see they don't have to be a slave to man made dogma to
have a spirituality. Then we wont have an excuse to hate others or
be
biggoted or whatever."
https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?passive=true&service=gro...
"Please visit this atheists ite
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
fuck you and fuck Jesus to."

At the time i believed that. According to you if anyone ever changes
their
mind they are obviously phoney's.

No, not everyone, only manipulatable flakes like you who have been
RUHI-ed.
W

But the Ruhi books say Jesus was a manifestation of God.

And you were gullible enough to take RUHI.
W

Only because I liked the woman teaching it.

Like or lust? Be careful of Bahai women. They will use their sex
appeal to lure you into their cult. From your photo, you're not
exactly a looker and would probably have to pay someone to get laid.
But be careful even to allow yourself to get pussy whipped by a Bahaim
woman. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
W

At least he would be getting some. I suffered for years in that
organization without any favors at all!  

Are you kidding, man? What community did you belong to? The
communities I grew up in - not to mention the youth conferences I went
to - where fuck-fest galores. It was disgusting, really. The first
witnessing of this sleaze-baggery was at a youth conference in
Adelaide in late 1985. A whole Bahaim youth orgy suddenly erupted, one
of the people there even getting caught doing the dirty with their own
cousin!
W

Shaking my head in disbelief!!!! Has borned to Baha'i family and is
insulting female members of his own family just to score a point.
DAMN. He is beyond logical discussions.

.



.

[m***@gmail.com]

Post by Aor

Post by JG9

Post by Ruhaniya

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by Ruhaniya

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by Aor

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by Ruhaniya

Post by Seon Ferguson
Why would I say something I don't believe in deep down?

For the same reason as,
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/t...
"I agree with you on that. I hate Religion but I still want to be
friends with those trapped in its mind prison. Hopefully one day I
can
work on
making them see they don't have to be a slave to man made dogma to
have a spirituality. Then we wont have an excuse to hate others or
be
biggoted or whatever."
https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?passive=true&service=gro...
"Please visit this atheists ite
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
fuck you and fuck Jesus to."

At the time i believed that. According to you if anyone ever changes
their
mind they are obviously phoney's.

No, not everyone, only manipulatable flakes like you who have been
RUHI-ed.
W

But the Ruhi books say Jesus was a manifestation of God.

And you were gullible enough to take RUHI.
W

Only because I liked the woman teaching it.

Like or lust? Be careful of Bahai women. They will use their sex
appeal to lure you into their cult. From your photo, you're not
exactly a looker and would probably have to pay someone to get laid.
But be careful even to allow yourself to get pussy whipped by a Bahaim
woman. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
W

At least he would be getting some. I suffered for years in that
organization without any favors at all!  

Are you kidding, man? What community did you belong to? The
communities I grew up in - not to mention the youth conferences I went
to - where fuck-fest galores. It was disgusting, really. The first
witnessing of this sleaze-baggery was at a youth conference in
Adelaide in late 1985. A whole Bahaim youth orgy suddenly erupted, one
of the people there even getting caught doing the dirty with their own
cousin!
W

 Shaking my head in disbelief!!!! Has borned  to Baha'i family and is
insulting female members of his own family just to score a point.
DAMN. He is beyond logical discussions.
.
.

The old 'beyond logic' line, eh Mash? So does anyone else have
anything more to say about the contents of the Muslim World Journals?
Or about this guy?
http://www.aurorabaha.org/covenant

[p***@onetel.net.uk]

Post by m***@gmail.com

Post by Aor

Post by JG9

Post by Ruhaniya

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by Ruhaniya

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by Aor

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by Ruhaniya

Post by Seon Ferguson
Why would I say something I don't believe in deep down?

For the same reason as,
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/t...
"I agree with you on that. I hate Religion but I still want to be
friends with those trapped in its mind prison. Hopefully one day I
can
work on
making them see they don't have to be a slave to man made dogma to
have a spirituality. Then we wont have an excuse to hate others or
be
biggoted or whatever."
https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?passive=true&service=gro...
"Please visit this atheists ite
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
fuck you and fuck Jesus to."

At the time i believed that. According to you if anyone ever changes
their
mind they are obviously phoney's.

No, not everyone, only manipulatable flakes like you who have been
RUHI-ed.
W

But the Ruhi books say Jesus was a manifestation of God.

And you were gullible enough to take RUHI.
W

Only because I liked the woman teaching it.

Like or lust? Be careful of Bahai women. They will use their sex
appeal to lure you into their cult. From your photo, you're not
exactly a looker and would probably have to pay someone to get laid.
But be careful even to allow yourself to get pussy whipped by a Bahaim
woman. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
W

At least he would be getting some. I suffered for years in that
organization without any favors at all!  

Are you kidding, man? What community did you belong to? The
communities I grew up in - not to mention the youth conferences I went
to - where fuck-fest galores. It was disgusting, really. The first
witnessing of this sleaze-baggery was at a youth conference in
Adelaide in late 1985. A whole Bahaim youth orgy suddenly erupted, one
of the people there even getting caught doing the dirty with their own
cousin!
W

 Shaking my head in disbelief!!!! Has borned  to Baha'i family and is
insulting female members of his own family just to score a point.
DAMN. He is beyond logical discussions.
.
.

The old 'beyond logic' line, eh Mash? So does anyone else have
anything more to say about the contents of the Muslim World Journals?
Or about this guy?http://www.aurorabaha.org/covenant-

I don['t think that he's a UHJ agent (official). I think he's a lone
maverick that's borrowed a few buzz-words from UHJ yawn-speak. But
Nima strongly disagrees with me. His evidence being "because he says
so".

But all that's on the aurorabaha thread that Nima started already - so
why are you bringing up the subjects of other threads to mash here?

I love your old "line"-line btw - interesting move!

[m***@gmail.com]

Post by m***@gmail.com

Post by Aor

Post by JG9

Post by Ruhaniya

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by Ruhaniya

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by Aor

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by Ruhaniya

Post by Seon Ferguson
Why would I say something I don't believe in deep down?

For the same reason as,
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/t...
"I agree with you on that. I hate Religion but I still want to be
friends with those trapped in its mind prison. Hopefully one day I
can
work on
making them see they don't have to be a slave to man made dogma to
have a spirituality. Then we wont have an excuse to hate others or
be
biggoted or whatever."
https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?passive=true&service=gro...
"Please visit this atheists ite
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
fuck you and fuck Jesus to."

At the time i believed that. According to you if anyone ever changes
their
mind they are obviously phoney's.

No, not everyone, only manipulatable flakes like you who have been
RUHI-ed.
W

But the Ruhi books say Jesus was a manifestation of God.

And you were gullible enough to take RUHI.
W

Only because I liked the woman teaching it.

Like or lust? Be careful of Bahai women. They will use their sex
appeal to lure you into their cult. From your photo, you're not
exactly a looker and would probably have to pay someone to get laid.
But be careful even to allow yourself to get pussy whipped by a Bahaim
woman. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
W

At least he would be getting some. I suffered for years in that
organization without any favors at all!  

Are you kidding, man? What community did you belong to? The
communities I grew up in - not to mention the youth conferences I went
to - where fuck-fest galores. It was disgusting, really. The first
witnessing of this sleaze-baggery was at a youth conference in
Adelaide in late 1985. A whole Bahaim youth orgy suddenly erupted, one
of the people there even getting caught doing the dirty with their own
cousin!
W

 Shaking my head in disbelief!!!! Has borned  to Baha'i family and is
insulting female members of his own family just to score a point.
DAMN. He is beyond logical discussions.
.
.

The old 'beyond logic' line, eh Mash? So does anyone else have
anything more to say about the contents of the Muslim World Journals?
Or about this guy?http://www.aurorabaha.org/covenant-

I don['t think that he's a UHJ agent (official).  I think he's a lone
maverick that's borrowed a few buzz-words from UHJ yawn-speak.  But
Nima strongly disagrees with me.  His evidence being "because he says
so".
But all that's on the aurorabaha thread that Nima started already - so
why are you bringing up the subjects of other threads to mash here?
I love your old "line"-line btw - interesting move!

Funny. You'd think that the UHJ might consider legal action for the
use of their names and symbols in his extensive 'covenant' document?
But perhaps their is something else going on here.

[Aor]

Post by m***@gmail.com

Post by m***@gmail.com

Post by Aor

Post by JG9

Post by Ruhaniya

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by Ruhaniya

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by Aor

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by Ruhaniya

Post by Seon Ferguson
Why would I say something I don't believe in deep down?

For the same reason as,
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/t...
"I agree with you on that. I hate Religion but I still want to be
friends with those trapped in its mind prison. Hopefully one day I
can
work on
making them see they don't have to be a slave to man made dogma to
have a spirituality. Then we wont have an excuse to hate others or
be
biggoted or whatever."
https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?passive=true&service=gro...
"Please visit this atheists ite
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
fuck you and fuck Jesus to."

At the time i believed that. According to you if anyone ever changes
their
mind they are obviously phoney's.

No, not everyone, only manipulatable flakes like you who have been
RUHI-ed.
W

But the Ruhi books say Jesus was a manifestation of God.

And you were gullible enough to take RUHI.
W

Only because I liked the woman teaching it.

Like or lust? Be careful of Bahai women. They will use their sex
appeal to lure you into their cult. From your photo, you're not
exactly a looker and would probably have to pay someone to get laid.
But be careful even to allow yourself to get pussy whipped by a Bahaim
woman. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
W

At least he would be getting some. I suffered for years in that
organization without any favors at all!  

Are you kidding, man? What community did you belong to? The
communities I grew up in - not to mention the youth conferences I went
to - where fuck-fest galores. It was disgusting, really. The first
witnessing of this sleaze-baggery was at a youth conference in
Adelaide in late 1985. A whole Bahaim youth orgy suddenly erupted, one
of the people there even getting caught doing the dirty with their own
cousin!
W

 Shaking my head in disbelief!!!! Has borned  to Baha'i family and is
insulting female members of his own family just to score a point.
DAMN. He is beyond logical discussions.
.
.

The old 'beyond logic' line, eh Mash? So does anyone else have
anything more to say about the contents of the Muslim World Journals?
Or about this guy?http://www.aurorabaha.org/covenant-

I don['t think that he's a UHJ agent (official).  I think he's a lone
maverick that's borrowed a few buzz-words from UHJ yawn-speak.  But
Nima strongly disagrees with me.  His evidence being "because he says
so".
But all that's on the aurorabaha thread that Nima started already - so
why are you bringing up the subjects of other threads to mash here?
I love your old "line"-line btw - interesting move!

Funny. You'd think that the UHJ might consider legal action for the
use of their names and symbols in his extensive 'covenant' document?
But perhaps their is something else going on here.- Hide quoted text -

There is, as we both know. This guy has turned into one of the uhj's
achilles heels and one the best weapons we can use against them in
court.

W

[All Bad]

"Aor" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:64cae19e-355a-41ce-ae76-***@g38g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 7, 1:46 pm, ***@gmail.com wrote:
(snip)

Post by m***@gmail.com
Funny. You'd think that the UHJ might consider legal action for the
use of their names and symbols in his extensive 'covenant' document?
But perhaps their is something else going on here.- Hide quoted text -

WA: There is, as we both know. This guy has turned into one of the uhj's
achilles heels and one the best weapons we can use against them in
court.

AB: Does he have a web site announcing to the world that he has the real
UHJ?

- All Bad

[PaulHammond]

Post by m***@gmail.com

Post by p***@onetel.net.uk

Post by m***@gmail.com
The old 'beyond logic' line, eh Mash? So does anyone else have
anything more to say about the contents of the Muslim World Journals?
Or about this guy?http://www.aurorabaha.org/covenant-

I don['t think that he's a UHJ agent (official). I think he's a lone
maverick that's borrowed a few buzz-words from UHJ yawn-speak. But
Nima strongly disagrees with me. His evidence being "because he says
so".
But all that's on the aurorabaha thread that Nima started already - so
why are you bringing up the subjects of other threads to mash here?
I love your old "line"-line btw - interesting move!

Funny. You'd think that the UHJ might consider legal action for the
use of their names and symbols in his extensive 'covenant' document?
But perhaps their is something else going on here.

Can you cite where this guy has used the term "Universal House of
Justice" or any official Baha'i symbols?

[Ruhaniya]

Post by PaulHammond

Post by m***@gmail.com

Post by m***@gmail.com
The old 'beyond logic' line, eh Mash? So does anyone else have
anything more to say about the contents of the Muslim World Journals?
Or about this guy?http://www.aurorabaha.org/covenant-

I don['t think that he's a UHJ agent (official).  I think he's a lone
maverick that's borrowed a few buzz-words from UHJ yawn-speak.  But
Nima strongly disagrees with me.  His evidence being "because he says
so".
But all that's on the aurorabaha thread that Nima started already - so
why are you bringing up the subjects of other threads to mash here?
I love your old "line"-line btw - interesting move!

Funny. You'd think that the UHJ might consider legal action for the
use of their names and symbols in his extensive 'covenant' document?
But perhaps their is something else going on here.

Can you cite where this guy has used the term "Universal House of
Justice" or any official Baha'i symbols?- Hide quoted text -

Yes, on his opening website you have the Bahai ringstone symbol and in
the Covenant section of his site he uses the word House of Justice.

W

[p***@onetel.net.uk]

Post by Ruhaniya

Post by PaulHammond

Post by m***@gmail.com

Post by m***@gmail.com
The old 'beyond logic' line, eh Mash? So does anyone else have
anything more to say about the contents of the Muslim World Journals?
Or about this guy?http://www.aurorabaha.org/covenant-

I don['t think that he's a UHJ agent (official).  I think he's a lone
maverick that's borrowed a few buzz-words from UHJ yawn-speak.  But
Nima strongly disagrees with me.  His evidence being "because he says
so".
But all that's on the aurorabaha thread that Nima started already - so
why are you bringing up the subjects of other threads to mash here?
I love your old "line"-line btw - interesting move!

Funny. You'd think that the UHJ might consider legal action for the
use of their names and symbols in his extensive 'covenant' document?
But perhaps their is something else going on here.

Can you cite where this guy has used the term "Universal House of
Justice" or any official Baha'i symbols?- Hide quoted text -

Yes, on his opening website you have the Bahai ringstone symbol and in
the Covenant section of his site he uses the word House of Justice.
W-

So any site which has a Christian Cross on it MUST be approved by the
pope?

And I did ask for the SPECIFIC term "Universal House of Justice",
Nima. From my skim-reading of that site, I think he was referring to
his putative "Misraqul adkhars" as becoming "houses of Justice"

There was election publicity by the Natural Law party in earlier years
that arranged a number of mystical symbols so that they looked like
the periodic table - the fact that they had something on it that
superficially looked like something used in Chemistry didn't show that
the Royal Society approved of and supported the Natural Law party.

Give me actual links and direct quotes, not vague hand-waving and
"because I said so" - and the reference being the whole website - you
KNOW that kind of thing wouldn't wash on SourceWatch, don't you?

Oh, and can we take this over to your actual Aururabaha thread so that
this one stays on topic about the judgements in the court case about
the Other Baha'i Faith?

Paul

[Aor]

Post by p***@onetel.net.uk
So any site which has a Christian Cross on it MUST be approved by the
pope?

That's the spurious argument the lawyers for your leash holders are
making vis-a-vis your cult.

Post by p***@onetel.net.uk
Give me actual links and direct quotes,

I have, anything else you want will be offered in courtroom during
examination and cross-examination.

Post by p***@onetel.net.uk
Oh, and can we take this over to your actual Aururabaha thread so that
this one stays on topic about the judgements in the court case about
the Other Baha'i Faith?

Hell no! This one is very much on-topic. Let the lawyers for the UHG,
BUPC and the Reform Baha'is follow the transparencies of what is going
on and your attempts to misdirect it.

W

[p***@onetel.net.uk]

Post by p***@onetel.net.uk
Oh, and can we take this over to your actual Aururabaha thread so that
this one stays on topic about the judgements in the court case about
the Other Baha'i Faith?

Hell no!  This one is very much on-topic.

Not on this thread it isn't. I've responded here:

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/353c53e292e89914/d960557fed5d7e14#d960557fed5d7e14

[Fuck the British!]

On Mar 9, 7:24 am, ***@onetel.net.uk wrote:
"First, I do believe, based on Hammond's refusal to say why he is
interested in the Baha'i Faith and his frequent defense of the AO,
that he is probably working for them."

-- Eric Stetson, September 2003

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/th...

Go talk to yourself, then. We've responded to you here....

[All Bad]

Post by PaulHammond

Post by m***@gmail.com

Post by m***@gmail.com
The old 'beyond logic' line, eh Mash? So does anyone else have
anything more to say about the contents of the Muslim World Journals?
Or about this guy?http://www.aurorabaha.org/covenant-

I don['t think that he's a UHJ agent (official). I think he's a lone
maverick that's borrowed a few buzz-words from UHJ yawn-speak. But
Nima strongly disagrees with me. His evidence being "because he says
so".
But all that's on the aurorabaha thread that Nima started already - so
why are you bringing up the subjects of other threads to mash here?
I love your old "line"-line btw - interesting move!

Funny. You'd think that the UHJ might consider legal action for the
use of their names and symbols in his extensive 'covenant' document?
But perhaps their is something else going on here.

Can you cite where this guy has used the term "Universal House of
Justice" or any official Baha'i symbols?- Hide quoted text -

WA: Yes, on his opening website you have the Bahai ringstone symbol and in
the Covenant section of his site he uses the word House of Justice.

AB: Note that on the real ringstone symbol the stars are aligned to the
middle horizontal.

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=Baha%27is+ringstone&btnG=Search+Images

- All Bad

[All Bad]

(snip)

Post by m***@gmail.com

Post by Aor
Are you kidding, man? What community did you belong to? The
communities I grew up in - not to mention the youth conferences I went
to - where fuck-fest galores. It was disgusting, really. The first
witnessing of this sleaze-baggery was at a youth conference in
Adelaide in late 1985. A whole Bahaim youth orgy suddenly erupted, one
of the people there even getting caught doing the dirty with their own
cousin!
W

Shaking my head in disbelief!!!! Has borned to Baha'i family and is
insulting female members of his own family just to score a point.
DAMN. He is beyond logical discussions.

The old 'beyond logic' line, eh Mash? So does anyone else have
anything more to say about the contents of the Muslim World Journals?
Or about this guy?http://www.aurorabaha.org/covenant-

(snip)

AB: I love your old "line"-line btw - interesting move!

AB: Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition. Was it you or Seon who had the
monsignors come by for a motivational speech with the thumb screws?

- All Bad

[All Bad]

Post by All Bad
(snip)

Post by m***@gmail.com

Post by Aor
Are you kidding, man? What community did you belong to? The
communities I grew up in - not to mention the youth conferences I went
to - where fuck-fest galores. It was disgusting, really. The first
witnessing of this sleaze-baggery was at a youth conference in
Adelaide in late 1985. A whole Bahaim youth orgy suddenly erupted, one
of the people there even getting caught doing the dirty with their own
cousin!
W

Shaking my head in disbelief!!!! Has borned to Baha'i family and is
insulting female members of his own family just to score a point.
DAMN. He is beyond logical discussions.

The old 'beyond logic' line, eh Mash? So does anyone else have
anything more to say about the contents of the Muslim World Journals?
Or about this guy?http://www.aurorabaha.org/covenant-

(snip)

AB: Ooops ! Wrong initalling. I might say that I'm not really Paul
Hammond, but I don't want to deny every possible identity.

PH: I love your old "line"-line btw - interesting move!

AB: I mistakenly initialled the line above as AB: vice PH. I am not saying
if I am or am not Viv, Paul, Bill Garlington, Bill Pleasant, Bill Clinton,
or Bill Ayers.

Post by All Bad
AB: Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition. Was it you or Seon who had
the monsignors come by for a motivational speech with the thumb screws?
- All Bad

[PaulHammond]

Post by All Bad
(snip)

Post by m***@gmail.com

Post by Aor
Are you kidding, man? What community did you belong to? The
communities I grew up in - not to mention the youth conferences I went
to - where fuck-fest galores. It was disgusting, really. The first
witnessing of this sleaze-baggery was at a youth conference in
Adelaide in late 1985. A whole Bahaim youth orgy suddenly erupted, one
of the people there even getting caught doing the dirty with their own
cousin!
W

Shaking my head in disbelief!!!! Has borned to Baha'i family and is
insulting female members of his own family just to score a point.
DAMN. He is beyond logical discussions.

The old 'beyond logic' line, eh Mash? So does anyone else have
anything more to say about the contents of the Muslim World Journals?
Or about this guy?http://www.aurorabaha.org/covenant-

(snip)
AB: I love your old "line"-line btw - interesting move!
AB: Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition. Was it you or Seon who had the
monsignors come by for a motivational speech with the thumb screws?
- All Bad

I believe it was mash who gave us a link to that old Monty Python
sketch. Somewhere on the long thread where "Hidden treasure" suddenly
turned up and started asking Seon to present his identity papers and
reason for acutally discussing the article Nima had posted. Before
taking to reposting Nima's posts whole without further comment.

Paul

[mash_ghasem]

Post by m***@gmail.com

Post by Aor

Post by JG9

Post by Ruhaniya

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by Ruhaniya

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by Aor

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by Ruhaniya

Post by Seon Ferguson
Why would I say something I don't believe in deep down?

For the same reason as,
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/t...
"I agree with you on that. I hate Religion but I still want to be
friends with those trapped in its mind prison. Hopefully one day I
can
work on
making them see they don't have to be a slave to man made dogma to
have a spirituality. Then we wont have an excuse to hate others or
be
biggoted or whatever."
https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?passive=true&service=gro...
"Please visit this atheists ite
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
fuck you and fuck Jesus to."

At the time i believed that. According to you if anyone ever changes
their
mind they are obviously phoney's.

No, not everyone, only manipulatable flakes like you who have been
RUHI-ed.
W

But the Ruhi books say Jesus was a manifestation of God.

And you were gullible enough to take RUHI.
W

Only because I liked the woman teaching it.

Like or lust? Be careful of Bahai women. They will use their sex
appeal to lure you into their cult. From your photo, you're not
exactly a looker and would probably have to pay someone to get laid.
But be careful even to allow yourself to get pussy whipped by a Bahaim
woman. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
W

At least he would be getting some. I suffered for years in that
organization without any favors at all!  

Are you kidding, man? What community did you belong to? The
communities I grew up in - not to mention the youth conferences I went
to - where fuck-fest galores. It was disgusting, really. The first
witnessing of this sleaze-baggery was at a youth conference in
Adelaide in late 1985. A whole Bahaim youth orgy suddenly erupted, one
of the people there even getting caught doing the dirty with their own
cousin!
W

 Shaking my head in disbelief!!!! Has borned  to Baha'i family and is
insulting female members of his own family just to score a point.
DAMN. He is beyond logical discussions.
.
.

The old 'beyond logic' line, eh Mash? So does anyone else have
anything more to say about the contents of the Muslim World Journals?
Or about this guy?http://www.aurorabaha.org/covenant

Waste your time for all these nonsenses and you will miss the
heavenly glory.

If that didn't make YOU and YOUR petty differences, insignificant,
nothing will!!!

.

[Seon Ferguson]

Post by JG9

Post by Ruhaniya

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by Ruhaniya

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by Aor

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by Ruhaniya

Post by Seon Ferguson
Why would I say something I don't believe in deep down?

For the same reason as,
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/t...
"I agree with you on that. I hate Religion but I still want to be
friends with those trapped in its mind prison. Hopefully one day I
can
work on
making them see they don't have to be a slave to man made dogma to
have a spirituality. Then we wont have an excuse to hate others
or
be
biggoted or whatever."
https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?passive=true&service=gro...
"Please visit this atheists ite
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
fuck you and fuck Jesus to."

At the time i believed that. According to you if anyone ever
changes
their
mind they are obviously phoney's.

No, not everyone, only manipulatable flakes like you who have been
RUHI-ed.
W

But the Ruhi books say Jesus was a manifestation of God.

And you were gullible enough to take RUHI.
W

Only because I liked the woman teaching it.

Like or lust? Be careful of Bahai women. They will use their sex
appeal to lure you into their cult. From your photo, you're not
exactly a looker and would probably have to pay someone to get laid.
But be careful even to allow yourself to get pussy whipped by a Bahaim
woman. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
W

At least he would be getting some. I suffered for years in that
organization without any favors at all! But there is still time for
them to bring me back into the fold. Ladies, send photos of your
charms please!
Jeffrey
P.S. to my wife, I am just joking here

hey I don't mind getting charmed by Bahai women. Even a Christian women
would be fine.

[Seon Ferguson]

Post by Ruhaniya

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by Ruhaniya

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by Aor

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by Ruhaniya

Post by Seon Ferguson
Why would I say something I don't believe in deep down?

For the same reason as,
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/t...
"I agree with you on that. I hate Religion but I still want to be
friends with those trapped in its mind prison. Hopefully one day I
can
work on
making them see they don't have to be a slave to man made dogma to
have a spirituality. Then we wont have an excuse to hate others
or
be
biggoted or whatever."
https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?passive=true&service=gro...
"Please visit this atheists ite
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
fuck you and fuck Jesus to."

At the time i believed that. According to you if anyone ever
changes
their
mind they are obviously phoney's.

No, not everyone, only manipulatable flakes like you who have been
RUHI-ed.
W

But the Ruhi books say Jesus was a manifestation of God.

And you were gullible enough to take RUHI.
W

Only because I liked the woman teaching it.

Like or lust? Be careful of Bahai women. They will use their sex
appeal to lure you into their cult. From your photo, you're not
exactly a looker and would probably have to pay someone to get laid.
But be careful even to allow yourself to get pussy whipped by a Bahaim
woman. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
W

I don't think she was doing that on purpose. But I live in Canberra now.
Plus most bahai women i meet are beautiful. Maybe it's the whole exotic
thing. I also would prefer love to getting laid. It must be a good feeling.

[PaulHammond]

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by Ruhaniya

Post by Seon Ferguson
Why would I say something I don't believe in deep down?

For the same reason as,
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/159285f4e31e928c/159320fbbf945202?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=Seon+Ferguson+%2B+jesus#159320fbbf945202
"I agree with you on that. I hate Religion but I still want to be
friends with those trapped in its mind prison. Hopefully one day I
can
work on
making them see they don't have to be a slave to man made dogma to
have a spirituality. Then we wont have an excuse to hate others or be
biggoted or whatever."
https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?passive=true&service=groups2&continue=http://groups.google.com/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/407ed4f5aa7a7f74/a52bb83d1db20027%3Flnk%3Dgst%26q%3DSeon%2BFerguson%2B%252B%2BJesus%2B%2509&cd=US&hl=en
"Please visit this atheists ite
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
fuck you and fuck Jesus to."

At the time i believed that. According to you if anyone ever changes their
mind they are obviously phoney's.

Nima's a phoney! He was brought up as Baha'i!

Paul

[Aor]

CAUTION NON-BAHAIS

On Mar 6, 1:23 pm, PaulHammond <***@onetel.net.uk> wrote:

"First, I do believe, based on Hammond's refusal to say why he is
interested in the Baha'i Faith and his frequent defense of the AO,
that he is probably working for them."


-- Eric Stetson, September 2003

[Aor]

CAUTION NON-BAHAIS

On Mar 6, 1:23 pm, PaulHammond <***@onetel.net.uk> wrote:

"First, I do believe, based on Hammond's refusal to say why he is
interested in the Baha'i Faith and his frequent defense of the AO,
that he is probably working for them."

-- Eric Stetson, September 2003

Post by PaulHammond
Nima's a phoney! He was brought up as Baha'i!

Brought up, ___but never believed___! Besides brought up and belief
are two different things, idiot! Both Abraham and Muhammad were
brought up polytheistic idolators but turned out in the Paragon
Prophets of Monotheism. Guess who the phoney is now, not I, but
rather the one who says they aren't a Baha'i with one side of the
mouth yet is a more fanatical Haifan cultist than any card-carrying
RUHI brain washed drone ever would be.

W

[Seon Ferguson]

Post by Aor
CAUTION NON-BAHAIS
"First, I do believe, based on Hammond's refusal to say why he is
interested in the Baha'i Faith and his frequent defense of the AO,
that he is probably working for them."
-- Eric Stetson, September 2003

Post by PaulHammond
Nima's a phoney! He was brought up as Baha'i!

Brought up, ___but never believed___! Besides brought up and belief
are two different things, idiot! Both Abraham and Muhammad were
brought up polytheistic idolators but turned out in the Paragon
Prophets of Monotheism. Guess who the phoney is now, not I, but
rather the one who says they aren't a Baha'i with one side of the
mouth yet is a more fanatical Haifan cultist than any card-carrying
RUHI brain washed drone ever would be.
W

The Buddha was brought up spoiled rotten and look how he turned out. I guess
all those people are allowed to change their opinion and not me.

[PaulHammond]

Post by Aor
CAUTION NON-BAHAIS
"First, I do believe, based on Hammond's refusal to say why he is
interested in the Baha'i Faith and his frequent defense of the AO,
that he is probably working for them."
-- Eric Stetson, September 2003

Post by PaulHammond
Nima's a phoney! He was brought up as Baha'i!

Brought up, ___but never believed___! Besides brought up and belief
are two different things, idiot!

Well then, I guess you'd better carefully explain the difference for
the benefit of us ill-educated louts then?

But I thought the fact that your favourite Bayani lady, who's so much
better than Martha Root, had a Babi father was meant to be a clincher
for her spiritual beliefs?

Of course, you'll explain why the argument you're applying to her
wouldn't apply to yourself at the same time, won't you?

But the point is, Seon was explaining the fact that you DO have this
tendency of bringing up what people believed 14 years ago and saying
that it proves them liars or worse if they subsequently believe
something different.

But when YOU change your mind from the religion you were brought up
in, that's a holy and a noble act.

Or didn't you change your mind? In fact, you were deceiving your
parents from an early age - is that what you're saying?

One rule for everyone else, and a different rule for you. That's how
it works, isn't it?

What a phoney!

Paul

[Seon Ferguson]

Post by PaulHammond

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by Ruhaniya

Post by Seon Ferguson
Why would I say something I don't believe in deep down?

For the same reason as,
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/159285f4e31e928c/159320fbbf945202?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=Seon+Ferguson+%2B+jesus#159320fbbf945202
"I agree with you on that. I hate Religion but I still want to be
friends with those trapped in its mind prison. Hopefully one day I
can
work on
making them see they don't have to be a slave to man made dogma to
have a spirituality. Then we wont have an excuse to hate others or be
biggoted or whatever."
https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?passive=true&service=groups2&continue=http://groups.google.com/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/407ed4f5aa7a7f74/a52bb83d1db20027%3Flnk%3Dgst%26q%3DSeon%2BFerguson%2B%252B%2BJesus%2B%2509&cd=US&hl=en
"Please visit this atheists ite
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
fuck you and fuck Jesus to."

At the time i believed that. According to you if anyone ever changes their
mind they are obviously phoney's.

Nima's a phoney! He was brought up as Baha'i!
Paul

The person who designed faithfreedom.org was brought up a Muslim. I think a
person has more credibility when they used to be a member of the religion
they are criticizing.

[Ruhaniya]

Post by Reform Bahai Faith
Re: 7th Circuit Ct of Appeals Judges hammer NSA's attorney
Friends,
Alternatively to listening to the entire recording of the Court
proceedings,
for those interested in Reform Bahai, I've excerpted a three-minute
clip that
follows the partial transcript available at the Orthodox Baha'i blog
and athttp://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/USCourt_Appeals09.htm
The audio Mp3 clip, in particular, reveals the NSA attempt to deprive
other
Bahai denominations of their Constitutional right of religious freedom
and
conscience, while Judge Bauer specifically mentions Reform Bahai.
US Court of Appeals 2-20-09. Mp3 file.http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/archives/US_Court_of_Appeals...
Bahai regards,
Frederick Glaysher
95 Theses - On Bahai Liberty - Articles - Abdu'l-Baha's Covenant
The Reform Bahai Faithwww.ReformBahai.org