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The Universal Principles of the Reform Bahai Faith. Baha'u'llah & Abdu'l-Baha.
Edited by Frederick Glaysher, with a new Introduction and the original 1912 Foreword. 148 pages.


The Universal Principles of the Reform Bahai Faith collects many of the early writings
of Baha'u'llah and Abdu'l-Baha, published in the West, seeking to restore and preserve
their vision of the oneness of God, humanity, and all religions.

In addition to all of the 1912 Universal Principles of the Bahai Movement, the book
includes Baha'u'llah's Arabic Hidden Words, selections known as the Spirit of the Age,
an address by Abdu'l-Baha at the Friends' Meeting House in London in 1913, and many Bahai
prayers for community and individual worship and meditation.

Though beginning in 2004, the Reform Bahai Faith traces its origin to the early Bahais
Ruth White, Mirza Ahmad Sohrab, and Julie Chanler, who sought to preserve the Teachings
of Abdu'l-Baha after his passing in 1921. They and other early American Bahais understood
the Bahai Faith was being turned into an oppressive organization, under what the British
Museum document expert Dr. C. Ainsworth Mitchell judged to be a fraudulent will and
testament. Baha'u'llah, the Founder of the Bahai Faith, believed in and taught a moderate,
universal religion, grounded in a separation of church and state, not a theocracy, and
members of the Reform Bahai Faith seek to recover and renew that saving vision for all
humanity.

The newcomer to the Bahai Teachings will find here a brief but eloquent and inspiring
introduction to the Faith of Baha'u'llah, while people already familiar with it will find a
refreshing breeze has returned to revivify and uplift the spirit.

This book marks the first publication of the Reform Bahai Press, which will publish
several more titles during the next few years.

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[Viv]

"He himself [Frederick Glaysher] continued to insist that he was a
full member of the Baha'i community until October 2004 when he set up
his own Baha'i group, the Reform Bahai Faith. There do not seem to
have been many members of this group (none have openly identified
themselves at any rate) and Glaysher himself announced he was
withdrawing "from being central to its development, looking to a
Convocation in 2006 to resolve this and other issues". Since the
Convocation itself was cancelled, it seems as though this group may
now be non-functional if it ever functioned."

(M. Momen accurately summing up the one man band that is the "Reform
Bahai Faith" which serves only as one more excuse for Glaysherspam)

[Asparagus]

Post by Viv
"He himself [Frederick Glaysher] continued to insist that he was a
full member of the Baha'i community until October 2004 when he set up
his own Baha'i group, the Reform Bahai Faith. There do not seem to
have been many members of this group (none have openly identified
themselves at any rate) and Glaysher himself announced he was
withdrawing "from being central to its development, looking to a
Convocation in 2006 to resolve this and other issues". Since the
Convocation itself was cancelled, it seems as though this group may
now be non-functional if it ever functioned."
(M. Momen accurately summing up the one man band that is the "Reform
Bahai Faith" which serves only as one more excuse for Glaysherspam)

We have, in another place, actually observed a person, who quite obviously
is not Mr Glaysher, declare interest in, sympathy with and intention to
declare into Reform Bahai. That rather tends to disprove your hypothesis
that it is a one man band.

[All Bad]

Post by Asparagus

Post by Viv
"He himself [Frederick Glaysher] continued to insist that he was a
full member of the Baha'i community until October 2004 when he set up
his own Baha'i group, the Reform Bahai Faith. There do not seem to
have been many members of this group (none have openly identified
themselves at any rate) and Glaysher himself announced he was
withdrawing "from being central to its development, looking to a
Convocation in 2006 to resolve this and other issues". Since the
Convocation itself was cancelled, it seems as though this group may
now be non-functional if it ever functioned."
(M. Momen accurately summing up the one man band that is the "Reform
Bahai Faith" which serves only as one more excuse for Glaysherspam)

We have, in another place, actually observed a person, who quite obviously
is not Mr Glaysher, declare interest in, sympathy with and intention to
declare into Reform Bahai. That rather tends to disprove your hypothesis
that it is a one man band.

Wow! Fred has not scared them off yet?

The disproof would be an enrollment, and considering the source some
evidence of regular feast attendance, given that something like that had
been used in the past by him, or one of his demographic sources, to estimate
how many real Baha'is were in the US.

For me, an enrollment, w/ no evidence of subsequent change of heart, would
be sufficient.

- All Bad

[H***@aol.com]

Post by Asparagus
We have, in another place, actually observed a person, who quite obviously
is not Mr Glaysher, declare interest in, sympathy with and intention to
declare into Reform Bahai.  That rather tends to disprove your hypothesis
that it is a one man band.

The question is, did they do so?

Otherwise it is still a one-man band.

[Asparagus]

Post by Asparagus
We have, in another place, actually observed a person, who quite obviously
is not Mr Glaysher, declare interest in, sympathy with and intention to
declare into Reform Bahai. That rather tends to disprove your hypothesis
that it is a one man band.

The question is, did they do so?

Otherwise it is still a one-man band.


Well ... if you exprect folks to accept the figures you put forward as
membership of your particular religious grouping, common courtesy demands
that you also accept Mr Glaysher's declaration of membership of his
particular religious grouping.

Before you claim otherwise ... none of the figures cited in so-called
independent sources are actually audited. I doubt that your organisation
has opened the books to independent observers and auditors.

It's that whole "lies, damned lies and statistics" thing!

[H***@aol.com]

Post by Asparagus
Well ... if you exprect folks to accept the figures you put forward as
membership of your particular religious grouping, common courtesy demands
that you also accept Mr Glaysher's declaration of membership of his
particular religious grouping.

I'll be quite satisfied if Freddie wants to use the standards he
himself has applied to the Baha'i community.

Post by Asparagus
Before you claim otherwise ... none of the figures cited in so-called
independent sources are actually audited.

You audit money, not membership. I'm not looking for masses here. But
so far not a single person has risen up and said, "yes, I'm a member
of Freddie's Reform Baha'i organization."

[Asparagus]

Post by H***@aol.com

Post by Asparagus
Well ... if you exprect folks to accept the figures you put forward as
membership of your particular religious grouping, common courtesy demands
that you also accept Mr Glaysher's declaration of membership of his
particular religious grouping.

I'll be quite satisfied if Freddie wants to use the standards he
himself has applied to the Baha'i community.

Well, according to you, he already is ... lying about the size of his
community

Post by H***@aol.com

Post by Asparagus
Before you claim otherwise ... none of the figures cited in so-called
independent sources are actually audited.

You audit money, not membership.

This is a very restrictive view ... an auditor examines the accounts of a
business. Included in that audit is the examination and verification of
assets and liabilities which, often, are arbitrarily, or otherwise, assigned
a, sometimes, notional monetary value. This can be illustrated by, for
example, asking you to value your automobile. What value do you place on
it - replacement cost, sale or its value as is and available at your door
for the purposes to which you wish to apply it? A true and fair
verification and evaluation of assets and liabilities is required for the
auditor to express his opinion as to the financial status of the business.

Since the BF refers to its membership as "resources" it obviously places a
value on them. An auditor would check the enumeration thereof and then
verify the value placed thereon in monetary terms according to the various
accepted standards.

As you are currently engaged in litigation over trademarks, it is not
unreasonable to view you as analagous to if not entirely a commercial
organisation intent on marketing its product and remaining financially
viable.

I'm not looking for masses here. But

Post by H***@aol.com
so far not a single person has risen up and said, "yes, I'm a member
of Freddie's Reform Baha'i organization."

This could be "taqquiah" (sp?). If it's good enough for the mainstream,
it's good enough for Mr Glaysher's group ... or so, one would think.

[383]

Post by Asparagus
We have, in another place, actually observed a person, who quite obviously
is not Mr Glaysher, declare interest in, sympathy with and intention to
declare into Reform Bahai. That rather tends to disprove your hypothesis
that it is a one man band.

If that person happens to be you, it is nothing but an effort at
subterfuge by your paymasters in Haifa. I doubt Fred or his board
would accept you, just on the suspicion alone.

W

[Asparagus]

Post by 383

Post by Asparagus
We have, in another place, actually observed a person, who quite obviously
is not Mr Glaysher, declare interest in, sympathy with and intention to
declare into Reform Bahai. That rather tends to disprove your hypothesis
that it is a one man band.

If that person happens to be you, it is nothing but an effort at
subterfuge by your paymasters in Haifa. I doubt Fred or his board
would accept you, just on the suspicion alone.

Worry not, my little pavement pizza, I have not applied to join him or your
mob of duffers!