1-15-08 - CAUTION Newcomers __*** Psychological War Zone ***

[Baha'i Censorship - See Website]

CAUTION *** Psychological War Zone *** Newcomers __
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Caution.htm


Baha'i fundamentalists are highly adept at manipulating
and controlling information / disinformation and public
perception, on and off the Internet.

I caution you that appearances are deceiving on Wikipedia,
talk.religion.bahai and alt.religion.bahai, as elsewhere
in bahai cyberspace, BeliefNet, Talisman9, "unenrolled" Baha'i
Yahoo Group, at times the DMOZ and Google directories, and
so on, playing the game of "good cop, bad cop,"*** all of which
have been prime tactics and arenas of Baha'i propaganda and
used to identify and manage dissent.

"I do think it's convenient for some to focus on the messenger--why?--
it conveniently deflects attention from the message." -Bernard Goldberg, Bias

"The ideas that rebels expound tend not to be attacked by those in power.
The latter are inclined rather to kill the messenger by character assassination.
For example, one rebel was said to be a womanizer... bitter... disloyal... and
even, in the words of one accuser, dangerously mentally ill." -C. Tarvis, social psychologist

For a historical perspective, "The Baha'i Technique":
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/technique.htm

Shunning & Slander > Menu
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Shunning.htm

Shoot the Messenger, Character Assassination, ETC
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Shoot%20the%20Messenger.htm

Also see comments regarding talk.religion.bahai on Usenet
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Usenet.htm

bahai-apologetics & BCCA (Bahai Computer and Communication Association)
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/BCCA_Ap.htm
--
The Baha'i Faith & Religious Freedom of Conscience
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/

See 2007 - Lawsuit by Wilmette NSA Against Other Denominations
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/

Ruth White Collection, Library of Congress, 1930
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/RWhiteLibC.htm

Ruth White, Excerpts, Bibliography
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Ruth%20White.htm

Dr. C. (Charles) Ainsworth Mitchell - Certified Copy from the Library of Congress
Report on the Writing Shown on the Photographs of the Alleged Will of Abdu'l-Baha. 1930.
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/CAMitchell_Report.htm

***
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_cop/bad_cop
Good Cop/Bad Cop, known in British military circles as Mutt and Jeff and also called joint
questioning and friend and foe[1], is a psychological tactic, used for interrogation.

It involves a team of two interrogators who take apparently opposing approaches to the subject. The
interrogators may interview the subject alternately or may confront the subject at the same time.

The 'Bad Cop' takes an aggressive, negative stance towards the subject, making blatant accusations,
derogatory comments, threats, and in general creating antipathy between the subject and himself.
This sets the stage for the 'Good Cop' to act sympathetically: appearing supportive, understanding,
in general showing sympathy for the subject. The good cop will also defend the subject from the bad
cop. The subject may feel he can cooperate with the good cop out of trust and/or fear of the bad
cop. He may then seek protection by and trust the good cop and tell him the needed information.

The technique is easily recognised by those familiar with it, but it remains useful[citation needed]
against subjects who are young, frightened, or naïve. Experienced interrogators assess the subject's
level of intelligence and experience with the technique[citation needed] prior to its application,
as the technique is often seen as offensive and insulting to those who recognise it, who may thus
refuse to cooperate outright.

[j***@gmail.com]

Fred, I'm writing a story about my experiences with Talisman liberals,
and glimpses of the dialogue/Talisman chronicles, partly in response
to seeing Talisman liberals stereotyped and depreciated, and partly in
the hope of offering a helpful perspective on what happened.

It won't be any secret who the people are in the story, but to reduce
the effects of any preconceptions anyone might have, I want to use
fictitious names and genders. For now I'm calling you Izzat. If you'd
like to choose your own name, or if you have any objections to being a
woman in my story, please let me know.

There will be an appendix with brief intros to the people in my story,
and links to information about them, including their Web pages. I'll
be asking you for help with your intro.

Jim

[H***@aol.com]

I don't think Fred was on Talisman I

His stay on Talisman II was short-lived. I think it lasted about two
weeks.

He may have stayed on Talisman9 a bit longer until Steve Marshall made
his baby torturer remark.

But every story should have its humor.

Post by j***@gmail.com
Fred, I'm writing a story about my experiences with Talisman liberals,
and glimpses of the dialogue/Talisman chronicles, partly in response
to seeing Talisman liberals stereotyped and depreciated, and partly in
the hope of offering a helpful perspective on what happened.
It won't be any secret who the people are in the story, but to reduce
the effects of any preconceptions anyone might have, I want to use
fictitious names and genders. For now I'm calling you Izzat. If you'd
like to choose your own name, or if you have any objections to being a
woman in my story, please let me know.
There will be an appendix with brief intros to the people in my story,
and links to information about them, including their Web pages. I'll
be asking you for help with your intro.
Jim

[j***@gmail.com]

I finished my story of the dialogue/Talisman chronicles.

http://www.geocities.com/geotalk/glimpses/

[j***@gmail.com]

On Jan 15, 11:35 am, "Baha'i Censorship - See Website"

CAUTION *** Psychological War Zone *** Newcomers __http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Caution.htm
Baha'i fundamentalists are highly adept at manipulating
and controlling information / disinformation and public
perception, on and off the Internet.
I caution you that appearances are deceiving on Wikipedia,
talk.religion.bahai and alt.religion.bahai, as elsewhere
in bahai cyberspace, BeliefNet, Talisman9, "unenrolled" Baha'i
Yahoo Group, at times the DMOZ and Google directories, and
so on, playing the game of "good cop, bad cop,"*** all of which
have been prime tactics and arenas of Baha'i propaganda and
used to identify and manage dissent.
"I do think it's convenient for some to focus on the messenger--why?--
it conveniently deflects attention from the message." -Bernard Goldberg, Bias
"The ideas that rebels expound tend not to be attacked by those in power.
The latter are inclined rather to kill the messenger by character assassination.
For example, one rebel was said to be a womanizer... bitter... disloyal... and
even, in the words of one accuser, dangerously mentally ill." -C. Tarvis, social psychologist
For a historical perspective, "The Baha'i Technique":http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/technique.htm
Shunning & Slander > Menuhttp://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Shunning.htm
Shoot the Messenger, Character Assassination, ETChttp://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Shoot%20the%20Messenger.htm
Also see comments regarding talk.religion.bahai on Usenethttp://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Usenet.htm
bahai-apologetics & BCCA (Bahai Computer and Communication Association)http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/BCCA_Ap.htm
--
The Baha'i Faith & Religious Freedom of Consciencehttp://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/
See 2007 - Lawsuit by Wilmette NSA Against Other Denominationshttp://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/
Ruth White Collection, Library of Congress, 1930http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/RWhiteLibC.htm
Ruth White, Excerpts, Bibliographyhttp://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Ruth%20White.htm
Dr. C. (Charles) Ainsworth Mitchell - Certified Copy from the Library of Congress
Report on the Writing Shown on the Photographs of the Alleged Will of Abdu'l-Baha. 1930.http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/CAMitchell_Report.htm
***http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_cop/bad_cop
Good Cop/Bad Cop, known in British military circles as Mutt and Jeff and also called joint
questioning and friend and foe[1], is a psychological tactic, used for interrogation.
It involves a team of two interrogators who take apparently opposing approaches to the subject. The
interrogators may interview the subject alternately or may confront the subject at the same time.
The 'Bad Cop' takes an aggressive, negative stance towards the subject, making blatant accusations,
derogatory comments, threats, and in general creating antipathy between the subject and himself.
This sets the stage for the 'Good Cop' to act sympathetically: appearing supportive, understanding,
in general showing sympathy for the subject. The good cop will also defend the subject from the bad
cop. The subject may feel he can cooperate with the good cop out of trust and/or fear of the bad
cop. He may then seek protection by and trust the good cop and tell him the needed information.
The technique is easily recognised by those familiar with it, but it remains useful[citation needed]
against subjects who are young, frightened, or naïve. Experienced interrogators assess the subject's
level of intelligence and experience with the technique[citation needed] prior to its application,
as the technique is often seen as offensive and insulting to those who recognise it, who may thus
refuse to cooperate outright.

Fred, you can quote me: As much as I deplore some of the behavior of
liberators, I see it totally eclipsed by the filthy, slimy behavior of
some people posing as followers of the House of Justice.

Jim

[Kent Johnson]

Hi Jim,

"Fred, you can quote me: As much as I deplore some of the behavior of
liberators, I see it totally eclipsed by the filthy, slimy behavior of
some people posing as followers of the House of Justice."

If you have trouble with my behavior I would appreciate your telling me.

--Kent


<***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:d1eb8a5f-4a03-4db3-81db-***@x30g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 15, 11:35 am, "Baha'i Censorship - See Website"

Post by Baha'i Censorship - See Website
CAUTION *** Psychological War Zone *** Newcomers
__http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Caution.htm
Baha'i fundamentalists are highly adept at manipulating
and controlling information / disinformation and public
perception, on and off the Internet.
I caution you that appearances are deceiving on Wikipedia,
talk.religion.bahai and alt.religion.bahai, as elsewhere
in bahai cyberspace, BeliefNet, Talisman9, "unenrolled" Baha'i
Yahoo Group, at times the DMOZ and Google directories, and
so on, playing the game of "good cop, bad cop,"*** all of which
have been prime tactics and arenas of Baha'i propaganda and
used to identify and manage dissent.
"I do think it's convenient for some to focus on the messenger--why?--
it conveniently deflects attention from the message." -Bernard Goldberg, Bias
"The ideas that rebels expound tend not to be attacked by those in power.
The latter are inclined rather to kill the messenger by character assassination.
For example, one rebel was said to be a womanizer... bitter... disloyal... and
even, in the words of one accuser, dangerously mentally ill." -C. Tarvis,
social psychologist
For a historical perspective, "The Baha'i
Technique":http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/technique.htm
Shunning & Slander >
Menuhttp://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Shunning.htm
Shoot the Messenger, Character Assassination,
ETChttp://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Shoot%20the%20Messenger.htm
Also see comments regarding talk.religion.bahai on
Usenethttp://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Usenet.htm
bahai-apologetics & BCCA (Bahai Computer and Communication
Association)http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/BCCA_Ap.htm
--
The Baha'i Faith & Religious Freedom of
Consciencehttp://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/
See 2007 - Lawsuit by Wilmette NSA Against Other
Denominationshttp://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/
Ruth White Collection, Library of Congress,
1930http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/RWhiteLibC.htm
Ruth White, Excerpts,
Bibliographyhttp://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Ruth%20White.htm
Dr. C. (Charles) Ainsworth Mitchell - Certified Copy from the Library of Congress
Report on the Writing Shown on the Photographs of the Alleged Will of
Abdu'l-Baha.
1930.http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/CAMitchell_Report.htm
***http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_cop/bad_cop
Good Cop/Bad Cop, known in British military circles as Mutt and Jeff and also called joint
questioning and friend and foe[1], is a psychological tactic, used for interrogation.
It involves a team of two interrogators who take apparently opposing
approaches to the subject. The
interrogators may interview the subject alternately or may confront the
subject at the same time.
The 'Bad Cop' takes an aggressive, negative stance towards the subject,
making blatant accusations,
derogatory comments, threats, and in general creating antipathy between
the subject and himself.
This sets the stage for the 'Good Cop' to act sympathetically: appearing
supportive, understanding,
in general showing sympathy for the subject. The good cop will also defend
the subject from the bad
cop. The subject may feel he can cooperate with the good cop out of trust
and/or fear of the bad
cop. He may then seek protection by and trust the good cop and tell him
the needed information.
The technique is easily recognised by those familiar with it, but it
remains useful[citation needed]
against subjects who are young, frightened, or naïve. Experienced
interrogators assess the subject's
level of intelligence and experience with the technique[citation needed]
prior to its application,
as the technique is often seen as offensive and insulting to those who
recognise it, who may thus
refuse to cooperate outright.

Fred, you can quote me: As much as I deplore some of the behavior of
liberators, I see it totally eclipsed by the filthy, slimy behavior of
some people posing as followers of the House of Justice.

Jim