Invitation to the UHJ on Mt Doom

[Death to Haifan Bahaism]

I would like to invite you, the uhj, together with all of your ITC
central committee members and various task forces and bureaucracies to
come and kiss my butt on live televised camera.

W

Now that the Whore of Babylon (the haifan bahaim cult) has been
thoroughly weakened, cut to minute size and is therefore hemorrhaging
to an assured and well-deserved (and long overdue) death, I am hereby
making the following offer to you haifan bahaim to unconditionally
surrender, walk away, and save whatever you have left of your personal
lives. I urge you to seriously consider this offer because if you
don't, whatever else shall unfold will be on your own heads
personally. Now that this demand has been spelled out, here are the 19
terms for your unconditional surrender:

1) The immediate dissolution of the ITC (international teaching
center), the written and unequivocal dismissal of all haifan bahaim
continental board of councillor members and their underlings
(auxilliary board members, etc), to be followed by the immediate
resignation without equivocation of all 9 members of the bogus and
illegal universal house of justice based in Haifa, Israel;

2) The immediate and unequivocal dissolution of the entire
infrastructure of the haifan bahaim administration and bureaucracy
globally - in every capacity and function - and the dismissal/
dissolution of every national spiritual assembly, regional council and
local assembly tied to your specific organization on the planet; as
well as the immediate and unequivocal suspension of all activities
under the name and rubric of the haifan bahaim organization;

3) The immediate and unequivocal dissolution and suspension of
all Ruhi Institutes globally;

4) The immediate and unequivocal relinquishment and full
disclosure in writing of all assets, chattels, investments, funds,
stocks, bonds, monies and otherwise belonging to the haifan bahaim
organization in
Israel, North America, the United Arab Emirates, Europe and throughout
the rest of the world; whether immediately tied or tangentially;

5) The immediate and unequivocal disclosure in writing of all
subsidies and all monies and perquisities received by your
organization since 1910 - in any capacity whatsoever - by any
individual(s), entities or groups, governments or otherwise, not
immediately tied to your organization, and specifically from the state
of Israel since 1948;

6) The immediate financial and documentary auditing of your
entire organization on all continents, beginning with the bahaim world
centre in Haifa, Palestine;

7) The immediate and unequivocal surrender of all legal and
official documentation as well as letters and correspondences of your
organization from the dates of 1871 to present;

8) The immediate and unequivocal surrender of all files and
archives kept in any policing or surveillance capacities by the haifan
bahaim organization whatsoever upon individuals, whether these be
files
regarding rank-and-file members of the haifan bahaim cult or those put
out by it as well as those not;

9) The immediate and unequivocal surrender in writing of the full
names, addresses, duties and capacities of all those serving under
your Internet Committee based in the United States and spread out
throughout the globe as well as the full unequivocal disclosure of the
date of its establishment and any/all outside aid obtained;

10) The immediate and unequivocal surrender of the entirety of the
archives of all texts and source documents (as well as artefacts) of a
specifically scriptural and historical nature to a panel consisting of
members of the Bayani community, the Unitarian Bahais the Reform
Baha'i movement, the Orthodox Baha'i Communities - 1) Marangella and
2) Shoghomonian -, the Baha'is Under the Provisions of the Covenant,
ex-Baha'i academics of a
reputable nature such as Denis Maceoin as well as those such as
Margrit Warburg etc, and any others determined in consensus by the
Panel;

11) The immediate and unequivocal disclosure of the facts
regarding the fate of the National Spiritual Assembly of Iran circa
1979 and a complete explanation with documentation as to the reasons
for the conspicuous silence of the so-called universal house of
justice in world fora afterwards regarding the fate of this body;

12) The immediate and unequivocal release and publication of the
Will and Testament of Shoghi Effendi to the worldwide Baha'i
community;

13) The immediate and unequivocal and unhindered and unimpeded
return of all documents, texts, scriptures, histories, papers and
effects in your possession belonging to one Mirza Yahya Nuri Subh-i-
Azal, which
were illegally and fraudulently obtained by one Mirza Husayn 'Ali Nuri
Baha'u'llah in Baghdad and Edirne in the 1860s, to the Bayani
community;

14) The immediate and unequivocal return of all the properties of
Bahji to its rightful owners, namely, the descendents of Mirza
Muhammad 'Ali ibn al-Baha' and Mirza Badi'ullah ibn al-Baha';

15) The immediate arrest and extradition of one Hozhabr Yazdani to
Iran (or the World Court in the Hague) to stand trial for state
sanctioned and protected criminal activities on behalf of your
organization in Iran from the years 1953-1979;

16) The immediate and unequivocal disclosure in full regarding the
criminal hawala networks operated by members of the haifan bahaim
organization throughout Asia, the Middle East, South America, Europe,
North America and elsewhere, and an explanation with documentation
regarding the nature of such activities and especially the names,
addresses and capacities of those persons involved with these criminal
hawala networks;

17) The immediate and unequivocal disclosure of all documents and
papers regarding the unexplained murder of one Dan Jordan in New York
City in 1982 as well as the immediate and unequivocal disclosure of
all documents and papers regarding the suspicious murder of one Hedi
Ma'ani in New Zealand;

18) The immediate arrest and criminal prosecution of misters Peter
Khan, Alan Waters, Stephan Hall, Manijeh Rayhani, Robert C Henderson,
et al., including their various staff, helpers and agents;

19) The immediate opening of the fake and disputed shrine on Mt
Carmel to an independent team of international scientific examiners
expert in forensic scientific analysis in a completely uninhibited
scientific
determination involving the exhumation of the body claimed to be that
of Siyyid 'Ali Muhammad Shirazi, the Bab, and its free and unfettered
scientific determination as to whether this body in fact be that of
the person claimed;

a) No individuals either haifan bahaim or peripherally tied to
the
Baha'i religion (from any denomination) may serve on this team of
scientific forensic experts;
b) An independent and impartial team shall serve as an oversight
committee to the work of the scientific team in question which shall
report on a daily basis to the aforementioned panel above on the
status of the work;
c) This oversight committee itself shall be selected by a another
independent committee (which itself shall be elected by the Panel)
consisting of 13 individuals who shall vouch for the independence and
unassailability in the moral rectitude of the second committee;

These are the terms for your unconditional surrender, the terms of
which are absolutely non-negotiable. If you should meet them, well and
good. If not, we will force them on you either way. Note that if any
documents, papers, effects, texts or whatever either go missing or are
found damaged, you will be held personally liable and as such
prosecuted for criminal negligence.

These are the terms of your unconditional surrender. Meet them for
your own sakes. You have lost the war. We have won.

Wahid Azal

[Seon Ferguson]

If you have a female friend I'd oblige her offer. I'm a pervert I know...

Post by Death to Haifan Bahaism
I would like to invite you, the uhj, together with all of your ITC
central committee members and various task forces and bureaucracies to
come and kiss my butt on live televised camera.
W
Now that the Whore of Babylon (the haifan bahaim cult) has been
thoroughly weakened, cut to minute size and is therefore hemorrhaging
to an assured and well-deserved (and long overdue) death, I am hereby
making the following offer to you haifan bahaim to unconditionally
surrender, walk away, and save whatever you have left of your personal
lives. I urge you to seriously consider this offer because if you
don't, whatever else shall unfold will be on your own heads
personally. Now that this demand has been spelled out, here are the 19
1) The immediate dissolution of the ITC (international teaching
center), the written and unequivocal dismissal of all haifan bahaim
continental board of councillor members and their underlings
(auxilliary board members, etc), to be followed by the immediate
resignation without equivocation of all 9 members of the bogus and
illegal universal house of justice based in Haifa, Israel;
2) The immediate and unequivocal dissolution of the entire
infrastructure of the haifan bahaim administration and bureaucracy
globally - in every capacity and function - and the dismissal/
dissolution of every national spiritual assembly, regional council and
local assembly tied to your specific organization on the planet; as
well as the immediate and unequivocal suspension of all activities
under the name and rubric of the haifan bahaim organization;
3) The immediate and unequivocal dissolution and suspension of
all Ruhi Institutes globally;
4) The immediate and unequivocal relinquishment and full
disclosure in writing of all assets, chattels, investments, funds,
stocks, bonds, monies and otherwise belonging to the haifan bahaim
organization in
Israel, North America, the United Arab Emirates, Europe and throughout
the rest of the world; whether immediately tied or tangentially;
5) The immediate and unequivocal disclosure in writing of all
subsidies and all monies and perquisities received by your
organization since 1910 - in any capacity whatsoever - by any
individual(s), entities or groups, governments or otherwise, not
immediately tied to your organization, and specifically from the state
of Israel since 1948;
6) The immediate financial and documentary auditing of your
entire organization on all continents, beginning with the bahaim world
centre in Haifa, Palestine;
7) The immediate and unequivocal surrender of all legal and
official documentation as well as letters and correspondences of your
organization from the dates of 1871 to present;
8) The immediate and unequivocal surrender of all files and
archives kept in any policing or surveillance capacities by the haifan
bahaim organization whatsoever upon individuals, whether these be
files
regarding rank-and-file members of the haifan bahaim cult or those put
out by it as well as those not;
9) The immediate and unequivocal surrender in writing of the full
names, addresses, duties and capacities of all those serving under
your Internet Committee based in the United States and spread out
throughout the globe as well as the full unequivocal disclosure of the
date of its establishment and any/all outside aid obtained;
10) The immediate and unequivocal surrender of the entirety of the
archives of all texts and source documents (as well as artefacts) of a
specifically scriptural and historical nature to a panel consisting of
members of the Bayani community, the Unitarian Bahais the Reform
Baha'i movement, the Orthodox Baha'i Communities - 1) Marangella and
2) Shoghomonian -, the Baha'is Under the Provisions of the Covenant,
ex-Baha'i academics of a
reputable nature such as Denis Maceoin as well as those such as
Margrit Warburg etc, and any others determined in consensus by the
Panel;
11) The immediate and unequivocal disclosure of the facts
regarding the fate of the National Spiritual Assembly of Iran circa
1979 and a complete explanation with documentation as to the reasons
for the conspicuous silence of the so-called universal house of
justice in world fora afterwards regarding the fate of this body;
12) The immediate and unequivocal release and publication of the
Will and Testament of Shoghi Effendi to the worldwide Baha'i
community;
13) The immediate and unequivocal and unhindered and unimpeded
return of all documents, texts, scriptures, histories, papers and
effects in your possession belonging to one Mirza Yahya Nuri Subh-i-
Azal, which
were illegally and fraudulently obtained by one Mirza Husayn 'Ali Nuri
Baha'u'llah in Baghdad and Edirne in the 1860s, to the Bayani
community;
14) The immediate and unequivocal return of all the properties of
Bahji to its rightful owners, namely, the descendents of Mirza
Muhammad 'Ali ibn al-Baha' and Mirza Badi'ullah ibn al-Baha';
15) The immediate arrest and extradition of one Hozhabr Yazdani to
Iran (or the World Court in the Hague) to stand trial for state
sanctioned and protected criminal activities on behalf of your
organization in Iran from the years 1953-1979;
16) The immediate and unequivocal disclosure in full regarding the
criminal hawala networks operated by members of the haifan bahaim
organization throughout Asia, the Middle East, South America, Europe,
North America and elsewhere, and an explanation with documentation
regarding the nature of such activities and especially the names,
addresses and capacities of those persons involved with these criminal
hawala networks;
17) The immediate and unequivocal disclosure of all documents and
papers regarding the unexplained murder of one Dan Jordan in New York
City in 1982 as well as the immediate and unequivocal disclosure of
all documents and papers regarding the suspicious murder of one Hedi
Ma'ani in New Zealand;
18) The immediate arrest and criminal prosecution of misters Peter
Khan, Alan Waters, Stephan Hall, Manijeh Rayhani, Robert C Henderson,
et al., including their various staff, helpers and agents;
19) The immediate opening of the fake and disputed shrine on Mt
Carmel to an independent team of international scientific examiners
expert in forensic scientific analysis in a completely uninhibited
scientific
determination involving the exhumation of the body claimed to be that
of Siyyid 'Ali Muhammad Shirazi, the Bab, and its free and unfettered
scientific determination as to whether this body in fact be that of
the person claimed;
a) No individuals either haifan bahaim or peripherally tied to
the
Baha'i religion (from any denomination) may serve on this team of
scientific forensic experts;
b) An independent and impartial team shall serve as an oversight
committee to the work of the scientific team in question which shall
report on a daily basis to the aforementioned panel above on the
status of the work;
c) This oversight committee itself shall be selected by a another
independent committee (which itself shall be elected by the Panel)
consisting of 13 individuals who shall vouch for the independence and
unassailability in the moral rectitude of the second committee;
These are the terms for your unconditional surrender, the terms of
which are absolutely non-negotiable. If you should meet them, well and
good. If not, we will force them on you either way. Note that if any
documents, papers, effects, texts or whatever either go missing or are
found damaged, you will be held personally liable and as such
prosecuted for criminal negligence.
These are the terms of your unconditional surrender. Meet them for
your own sakes. You have lost the war. We have won.
Wahid Azal

[Seon Ferguson]

Although I guess I'd have to be Bahai damn.

Post by Seon Ferguson
If you have a female friend I'd oblige her offer. I'm a pervert I know...

Post by Death to Haifan Bahaism
I would like to invite you, the uhj, together with all of your ITC
central committee members and various task forces and bureaucracies to
come and kiss my butt on live televised camera.
W
Now that the Whore of Babylon (the haifan bahaim cult) has been
thoroughly weakened, cut to minute size and is therefore hemorrhaging
to an assured and well-deserved (and long overdue) death, I am hereby
making the following offer to you haifan bahaim to unconditionally
surrender, walk away, and save whatever you have left of your personal
lives. I urge you to seriously consider this offer because if you
don't, whatever else shall unfold will be on your own heads
personally. Now that this demand has been spelled out, here are the 19
1) The immediate dissolution of the ITC (international teaching
center), the written and unequivocal dismissal of all haifan bahaim
continental board of councillor members and their underlings
(auxilliary board members, etc), to be followed by the immediate
resignation without equivocation of all 9 members of the bogus and
illegal universal house of justice based in Haifa, Israel;
2) The immediate and unequivocal dissolution of the entire
infrastructure of the haifan bahaim administration and bureaucracy
globally - in every capacity and function - and the dismissal/
dissolution of every national spiritual assembly, regional council and
local assembly tied to your specific organization on the planet; as
well as the immediate and unequivocal suspension of all activities
under the name and rubric of the haifan bahaim organization;
3) The immediate and unequivocal dissolution and suspension of
all Ruhi Institutes globally;
4) The immediate and unequivocal relinquishment and full
disclosure in writing of all assets, chattels, investments, funds,
stocks, bonds, monies and otherwise belonging to the haifan bahaim
organization in
Israel, North America, the United Arab Emirates, Europe and throughout
the rest of the world; whether immediately tied or tangentially;
5) The immediate and unequivocal disclosure in writing of all
subsidies and all monies and perquisities received by your
organization since 1910 - in any capacity whatsoever - by any
individual(s), entities or groups, governments or otherwise, not
immediately tied to your organization, and specifically from the state
of Israel since 1948;
6) The immediate financial and documentary auditing of your
entire organization on all continents, beginning with the bahaim world
centre in Haifa, Palestine;
7) The immediate and unequivocal surrender of all legal and
official documentation as well as letters and correspondences of your
organization from the dates of 1871 to present;
8) The immediate and unequivocal surrender of all files and
archives kept in any policing or surveillance capacities by the haifan
bahaim organization whatsoever upon individuals, whether these be
files
regarding rank-and-file members of the haifan bahaim cult or those put
out by it as well as those not;
9) The immediate and unequivocal surrender in writing of the full
names, addresses, duties and capacities of all those serving under
your Internet Committee based in the United States and spread out
throughout the globe as well as the full unequivocal disclosure of the
date of its establishment and any/all outside aid obtained;
10) The immediate and unequivocal surrender of the entirety of the
archives of all texts and source documents (as well as artefacts) of a
specifically scriptural and historical nature to a panel consisting of
members of the Bayani community, the Unitarian Bahais the Reform
Baha'i movement, the Orthodox Baha'i Communities - 1) Marangella and
2) Shoghomonian -, the Baha'is Under the Provisions of the Covenant,
ex-Baha'i academics of a
reputable nature such as Denis Maceoin as well as those such as
Margrit Warburg etc, and any others determined in consensus by the
Panel;
11) The immediate and unequivocal disclosure of the facts
regarding the fate of the National Spiritual Assembly of Iran circa
1979 and a complete explanation with documentation as to the reasons
for the conspicuous silence of the so-called universal house of
justice in world fora afterwards regarding the fate of this body;
12) The immediate and unequivocal release and publication of the
Will and Testament of Shoghi Effendi to the worldwide Baha'i
community;
13) The immediate and unequivocal and unhindered and unimpeded
return of all documents, texts, scriptures, histories, papers and
effects in your possession belonging to one Mirza Yahya Nuri Subh-i-
Azal, which
were illegally and fraudulently obtained by one Mirza Husayn 'Ali Nuri
Baha'u'llah in Baghdad and Edirne in the 1860s, to the Bayani
community;
14) The immediate and unequivocal return of all the properties of
Bahji to its rightful owners, namely, the descendents of Mirza
Muhammad 'Ali ibn al-Baha' and Mirza Badi'ullah ibn al-Baha';
15) The immediate arrest and extradition of one Hozhabr Yazdani to
Iran (or the World Court in the Hague) to stand trial for state
sanctioned and protected criminal activities on behalf of your
organization in Iran from the years 1953-1979;
16) The immediate and unequivocal disclosure in full regarding the
criminal hawala networks operated by members of the haifan bahaim
organization throughout Asia, the Middle East, South America, Europe,
North America and elsewhere, and an explanation with documentation
regarding the nature of such activities and especially the names,
addresses and capacities of those persons involved with these criminal
hawala networks;
17) The immediate and unequivocal disclosure of all documents and
papers regarding the unexplained murder of one Dan Jordan in New York
City in 1982 as well as the immediate and unequivocal disclosure of
all documents and papers regarding the suspicious murder of one Hedi
Ma'ani in New Zealand;
18) The immediate arrest and criminal prosecution of misters Peter
Khan, Alan Waters, Stephan Hall, Manijeh Rayhani, Robert C Henderson,
et al., including their various staff, helpers and agents;
19) The immediate opening of the fake and disputed shrine on Mt
Carmel to an independent team of international scientific examiners
expert in forensic scientific analysis in a completely uninhibited
scientific
determination involving the exhumation of the body claimed to be that
of Siyyid 'Ali Muhammad Shirazi, the Bab, and its free and unfettered
scientific determination as to whether this body in fact be that of
the person claimed;
a) No individuals either haifan bahaim or peripherally tied to
the
Baha'i religion (from any denomination) may serve on this team of
scientific forensic experts;
b) An independent and impartial team shall serve as an oversight
committee to the work of the scientific team in question which shall
report on a daily basis to the aforementioned panel above on the
status of the work;
c) This oversight committee itself shall be selected by a another
independent committee (which itself shall be elected by the Panel)
consisting of 13 individuals who shall vouch for the independence and
unassailability in the moral rectitude of the second committee;
These are the terms for your unconditional surrender, the terms of
which are absolutely non-negotiable. If you should meet them, well and
good. If not, we will force them on you either way. Note that if any
documents, papers, effects, texts or whatever either go missing or are
found damaged, you will be held personally liable and as such
prosecuted for criminal negligence.
These are the terms of your unconditional surrender. Meet them for
your own sakes. You have lost the war. We have won.
Wahid Azal

[لا اله الا الله حقاً حقاً]

Post by Seon Ferguson
If you have a female friend I'd oblige her offer. I'm a pervert I know...

Why girlfriend? The humiliation is to have these old, stupid farts on
Mt Doom who think they are infallible filing in row kissing my VERY
HOLY ass...

W

[Asparagus]

Post by لا اله الا الله حقاً حقاً

Post by Seon Ferguson
If you have a female friend I'd oblige her offer. I'm a pervert I know...

Why girlfriend? The humiliation is to have these old, stupid farts on
Mt Doom who think they are infallible filing in row kissing my VERY
HOLY ass...

Dream on!

'Tis only yourself will be kissing your ass ... I hope your joints are up to
it!

[لا اله الا الله حقاً حقاً]

Post by Asparagus
Dream on!

Not anymore! ;-)

W

[Seon Ferguson]

Post by لا اله الا الله حقاً حقاً

Post by Seon Ferguson
If you have a female friend I'd oblige her offer. I'm a pervert I know...

Why girlfriend? The humiliation is to have these old, stupid farts on
Mt Doom who think they are infallible filing in row kissing my VERY
HOLY ass...

Because I'm a ass man but for females sorry. I'm sure they are some gay
Bahai's out there who would love to oblige.

[لا اله الا الله حقاً حقاً]

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by لا اله الا الله حقاً حقاً

Post by Seon Ferguson
If you have a female friend I'd oblige her offer. I'm a pervert I know...

Why girlfriend? The humiliation is to have these old, stupid farts on
Mt Doom who think they are infallible filing in row kissing my VERY
HOLY ass...

Because I'm a ass man but for females sorry. I'm sure they are some gay
Bahai's out there who would love to oblige.

It's not for the gay factor. It's for the humiliation factor,
especially to that sell-out dhal-khor Peter Con

W

[Seon Ferguson]

Post by لا اله الا الله حقاً حقاً

Post by Seon Ferguson

Post by لا اله الا الله حقاً حقاً

Post by Seon Ferguson
If you have a female friend I'd oblige her offer. I'm a pervert I know...

Why girlfriend? The humiliation is to have these old, stupid farts on
Mt Doom who think they are infallible filing in row kissing my VERY
HOLY ass...

Because I'm a ass man but for females sorry. I'm sure they are some gay
Bahai's out there who would love to oblige.

It's not for the gay factor. It's for the humiliation factor,
especially to that sell-out dhal-khor Peter Con

Well if he's such a sell out maybe he'll kiss your ass for a small fee.

[لا اله الا الله حقاً حقاً]

Post by Seon Ferguson
Well if he's such a sell out maybe he'll kiss your ass for a small fee.

These fools on the hill of Doom are like up-market hookers. Their fees
are pretty hefty.No, they have to be made to.

W

[Seon Ferguson]

Post by لا اله الا الله حقاً حقاً

Post by Seon Ferguson
Well if he's such a sell out maybe he'll kiss your ass for a small fee.

These fools on the hill of Doom are like up-market hookers. Their fees
are pretty hefty.No, they have to be made to.

It will probably be pretty easy. There just cowards who believe anything
there leaders say about Iran or Iraq or whatever country these war mongers
want to invade next. They have no spine at all.

[H***@aol.com]

. There just cowards who believe anything

Post by Seon Ferguson
there leaders say about Iran or Iraq or whatever country these war mongers
want to invade next. They have no spine at all.

Last I heard Baha'is weren't invading any countries.

[Seon Ferguson]

Post by Seon Ferguson
. There just cowards who believe anything

Post by Seon Ferguson
there leaders say about Iran or Iraq or whatever country these war mongers
want to invade next. They have no spine at all.

Last I heard Baha'is weren't invading any countries.

Nope but there leaders seem to want it. But then Christians want to invade
Iran as well, so to Jews and probably a few hypocritical Buddhists.

[H***@aol.com]

Post by Seon Ferguson
Nope but there leaders seem to want it.

Sorry, there's no evidence for that. They would have told anyone to
take down a blog that was trying to associate the Faith with a
partisan political stance.

[لا اله الا الله حقاً حقاً]

Post by H***@aol.com

Post by Seon Ferguson
Nope but there leaders seem to want it.

Sorry, there's no evidence for that.

Yes, there is.

W

[Viv]

Post by لا اله الا الله حقاً حقاً

Post by H***@aol.com

Post by Seon Ferguson
Nope but there leaders seem to want it.

Sorry, there's no evidence for that.

Yes, there is.
W

The evidence being?

[لا اله الا الله حقاً حقاً]

Post by Viv
The evidence being?

1) Statements made by prominent bahaim close to the top and membership
of the AO-holes themselves, such as the ones made by Kluge and that
made by Dermod Ryder, and similar;

2) The categorical refusal of the ao-holes to explicitly condemn any
potential attack on and invasion of Iran, esp. in their explicit
refusal to sign the petition condemning attack and discouraging other
members of your organization from signing a petition explicitly
condemning an attack and invasion of Iran;

3) The frantic lobbying activity by members and official organs of
your organization for the past several years in Washington DC, New
York and Brussels against the present Iranian regime;

4) The Bahaim missionaries who were kicked out of Iran at the end of
2004 who were determinedly spying in Iran under the cover of
missionary activity, which in any case was prohibited;

5) The determination by the ad hoc ao-hole leadership of Bahaim in
Iran to force the hand of the regime into taking evasive action
against the Iranian Bahaim community as a means to continue the
political relevance of 'contrived' and 'wag-the-dog' persecution,
which is minimal and insignificant compared to other groups and
movements who have actually been persecuted under the IRI, such as the
Student Movement, women's groups, the Kurdish minority, etc.

6) The manufactured lies planted and fueled by your organization in
the Western press over the past several years claiming a) desecration
of the gravesite of Quddus in 2004 (which never happened), b)
desecration of gravesites in Yazd (which turns out to be grossly
exaggerated), c) claims to 'cultural genocide' (which is demonstrably
ridiculous), ad nauseum;

7) The proximity of notable Bahaim insiders in Maryland to Dick
Cheney, Richard Perle and the Bush administration,

8) The thriving and protection of your organization by the state of
Israel, in effect making your organization an organ of Israeli foreign
policy and Zionist advancement by other means;

ad infinitum

W

[لا اله الا الله حقاً حقاً]

And if the Haifan Bahaim leadership does not support an attack on
Iran, pray tell, why hasn't Ian Kluge been publicly reprimanded/and
sanctioned by the ao-holes for this statement below? He hasn't,
because this statement and the sentiment behind it is one universally
shared by the Haifan Bahaim leadership on all levels, esp. at the very
top.

Should any military/nuclear genocide occur against the Iranian people
before this current monster in Washington DC leaves office, or during
the presidency of John McCain, you demons share equal responsibility
in making it happen as those you pushed the button. And we will never
let you forget it (esp. statements such as the one below).

W

From: Ian Kluge <***@...>
Date: Sat Apr 15, 2006 3:15 pm
Subject: RE: [talisman9] Re: Juan Cole on Iran's 'nuclear defiance'
iankluge2000
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Dear Bacquia,

Two points:

(1) RE paying attention to what they say: many German Jews made that
mistake once too. They dismissed Nazi anti-semitism as 'talk' and
cheap vote-getting propaganda. They were wrong - and Israel can't
afford to be wrong
again. I fully support a first strike on Iran's nuclear facilities
wherever they may be hidden and by whatever means are needed to
destroy them. If the Iranians deny us their oil, destroy their oil
facilities - if we can't have their oil, neither will they.

The US can get most of its oil needs met by Canada (already your
largest supplier anyway of oil, gas and electricity). The MacMurray
(Alberta) Tarsands have more oil than Saudi Arabia just for starters.

2) I have no idea why the Universal House decided as It did, if It did
(I haven't even seen the letter allegedly saying these things.) but
off the top of my head, I can imagine at least one major reason.

Regime change (one way or another) is coming in the relatively near
future and Baha'is must be there when a new regime is established to
make their mark on the new government and help move it in genuinely
new directions. If
they all Baha'is leave they will have lost all credibility as well as
opportunities to legally prosecute their former tormentors.

If you want to play hockey, you've got to be on the ice at game-time.

Best wishes,

Ian Kluge

[Viv]

Post by لا اله الا الله حقاً حقاً
And if the Haifan Bahaim leadership does not support an attack on
Iran, pray tell, why hasn't Ian Kluge been publicly reprimanded/and
sanctioned by the ao-holes for this statement below?

And presumably you maintain that the Pope should publicly disavow
every strange message posted by every Catholic in the world otherwise
what they say can be taken as representing the views of the Church
leadership.

[لا اله الا الله حقاً حقاً]

Post by Viv

Post by لا اله الا الله حقاً حقاً
And if the Haifan Bahaim leadership does not support an attack on
Iran, pray tell, why hasn't Ian Kluge been publicly reprimanded/and
sanctioned by the ao-holes for this statement below?

And presumably you maintain that the Pope should publicly disavow
every strange message posted by every Catholic in the world otherwise
what they say can be taken as representing the views of the Church
leadership.

Oh!? people have been disavowed, sanctioned, publicly humiliated and
their lives destroyed by your ao-holes for far, far less than what Ian
Kluge has said, like Hamid Taheri for reading poetry on an innocuous
local cable network career. Yet nothing happens to Ian Kluge, and for
obvious reasons too, because his expressed sentiments are the
sentiments of those at the very top plus he is a non-Iranian white
European Ashkenazi (pseudo-)Jew.

W

[Viv]

Post by لا اله الا الله حقاً حقاً

Post by Viv

Post by لا اله الا الله حقاً حقاً
And if the Haifan Bahaim leadership does not support an attack on
Iran, pray tell, why hasn't Ian Kluge been publicly reprimanded/and
sanctioned by the ao-holes for this statement below?

And presumably you maintain that the Pope should publicly disavow
every strange message posted by every Catholic in the world otherwise
what they say can be taken as representing the views of the Church
leadership.

Oh!? people have been disavowed, sanctioned, publicly humiliated and
their lives destroyed by your ao-holes for far, far less than what Ian
Kluge has said, like Hamid Taheri for reading poetry on an innocuous
local cable network career. Yet nothing happens to Ian Kluge, and for
obvious reasons too, because  his expressed sentiments are the
sentiments of those at the very top plus he is a non-Iranian white
European Ashkenazi (pseudo-)Jew.
W

Thanks for reminding us of your racism.

[Asparagus]

Post by لا اله الا الله حقاً حقاً
Should any military/nuclear genocide occur against the Iranian people
before this current monster in Washington DC leaves office, or during
the presidency of John McCain, you demons share equal responsibility
in making it happen as those you pushed the button. And we will never
let you forget it (esp. statements such as the one below).

Oh light of illogic!

If there is a pre-emptive nuclear strike

There will be nobody left to remember it

They will all be eliminated ... or vapourised ... or worse!

[لا اله الا الله حقاً حقاً]

Post by Asparagus

Post by لا اله الا الله حقاً حقاً
Should any military/nuclear genocide occur against the Iranian people
before this current monster in Washington DC leaves office, or during
the presidency of John McCain, you demons share equal responsibility
in making it happen as those you pushed the button. And we will never
let you forget it (esp. statements such as the one below).

Oh light of illogic!
If there is a pre-emptive nuclear strike
There will be nobody left to remember it
They will all be eliminated ... or vapourised ... or worse!

Your comment (as your previous one) is duly noted.

W

[Asparagus]

Post by لا اله الا الله حقاً حقاً

Post by Asparagus

Post by لا اله الا الله حقاً حقاً
Should any military/nuclear genocide occur against the Iranian people
before this current monster in Washington DC leaves office, or during
the presidency of John McCain, you demons share equal responsibility
in making it happen as those you pushed the button. And we will never
let you forget it (esp. statements such as the one below).

Oh light of illogic!
If there is a pre-emptive nuclear strike
There will be nobody left to remember it
They will all be eliminated ... or vapourised ... or worse!

Your comment (as your previous one) is duly noted.

And..........???????

Do you disagree with what I have stated?

What previous comment do you refer to ......

[Viv]

This tirade is flawed right from the start.

You fail to produce any stements by prominent Baha'is or the Baha'i
leadership. Ian Kluge is one individual - the fact that you have to
keep recycling him shows the weakness of your case. You and I know
Dermod isn't a Baha'i.

The rest of the "evidence" is equally weak. Off-the-point or itself in
need of evidence to support it.

Like most of your assertions, Nima, it's assertion built on assertion.
You are a fundametnally dishonest person.

V.

[لا اله الا الله حقاً حقاً]

Post by Viv
This tirade is flawed right from the start.

Blow it out your cultist-denying ear. My evidence of your
organization's support for a preemptive war against Iran is
unassailable.

W

[Viv]

Post by لا اله الا الله حقاً حقاً

Post by Viv
This tirade is flawed right from the start.

Blow it out your cultist-denying ear. My evidence of your
organization's support for a preemptive war against Iran is
unassailable.
W

Your so-called evidence is just more of your assertions for which you
were unable to produce evidence when challenged. You build a house of
cards and you make out that it looks like a solid structure.

Viv.

[لا اله الا الله حقاً حقاً]

Post by Viv

Post by لا اله الا الله حقاً حقاً

Post by Viv
This tirade is flawed right from the start.

Blow it out your cultist-denying ear. My evidence of your
organization's support for a preemptive war against Iran is
unassailable.
W

Your so-called evidence is just more of your assertions

May evidence is unassailable, Palu, which even you know.

W

[Asparagus]

Post by لا اله الا الله حقاً حقاً
May evidence is unassailable, Palu, which even you know.

Indubitably .... and so unassailable that you even confuse She To Whom You
Respond with He From Whom You Ran.

There's naught so unassailable as the unadulterated ignorance which is your
trademark.

Ever thought of slapping a trademark on it?

[لا اله الا الله حقاً حقاً]

Post by Asparagus

Post by لا اله الا الله حقاً حقاً
May evidence is unassailable, Palu, which even you know.

Indubitably .... and so unassailable that you even confuse She To Whom You
Respond with He From Whom You Ran.

Not at all. That Viv Jacobson and Paul Hammond are one and the same
piece of bahaim turd is manifest as the noon day sun!

W

[Viv]

Post by لا اله الا الله حقاً حقاً
Not at all. That Viv Jacobson and Paul Hammond are one and the same
piece of bahaim turd is manifest as the noon day sun!
W

The noonday sun of Queensland in which a certain rottless and self-
hating Iranian emigre has spent too much time, if he thinks that
stement provides evidence.

[لا اله الا الله حقاً حقاً]

Post by Viv

Post by لا اله الا الله حقاً حقاً
Not at all. That Viv Jacobson and Paul Hammond are one and the same
piece of bahaim turd is manifest as the noon day sun!
W

The noonday sun of Queensland in which a certain rottless and self-
hating Iranian emigre has spent too much time, if he thinks that
stement provides evidence.

It is spelled "statement" and you were going to reproduce the
Australian National Spiritual Assembly's formal letter repudiating the
Taheri letter as not one issued by its body.

W

[Viv]

Post by لا اله الا الله حقاً حقاً

Post by Viv

Post by لا اله الا الله حقاً حقاً
Not at all. That Viv Jacobson and Paul Hammond are one and the same
piece of bahaim turd is manifest as the noon day sun!
W

The noonday sun of Queensland in which a certain rottless and self-
hating Iranian emigre has spent too much time, if he thinks that
stement provides evidence.

It is spelled "statement" and you were going to reproduce the
Australian National Spiritual Assembly's formal letter repudiating the
Taheri letter as not one issued by its body.
W

Thank you for correcting the typo. Glad you've recovered enough from
the sun enough to notice it - and to do the usual Nima thing of trying
to change the subject.

Viv.

[لا اله الا الله حقاً حقاً]

Post by Viv

Post by لا اله الا الله حقاً حقاً

Post by Viv

Post by لا اله الا الله حقاً حقاً
Not at all. That Viv Jacobson and Paul Hammond are one and the same
piece of bahaim turd is manifest as the noon day sun!
W

The noonday sun of Queensland in which a certain rottless and self-
hating Iranian emigre has spent too much time, if he thinks that
stement provides evidence.

It is spelled "statement" and you were going to reproduce the
Australian National Spiritual Assembly's formal letter repudiating the
Taheri letter as not one issued by its body.
W

Thank you for correcting the typo. Glad you've recovered enough from
the sun enough to notice it - and to do the usual Nima thing of trying
to change the subject.
Viv.

Waiting for you to produce this OZ NSA missive repudiating the Taheri
letter, Paul.

W