Daniel Thomas Andrew Daly
2010-10-09 03:52:48 UTC
Hello
Greetings from myself, Daniel Thomas Andrew Daly, Head Pastor and
founder of Haven Noahide Fellowship. I will keep this as brief as I
can, but hopefully make it as informative as possible. This message
is introducing Karaite Noahide Faith or, perhaps a better term for
us,
Biblical or Bible-Only Noahide faith.
What is a Noahide?
A Noahide is a biblical concept which, for those who believe, we
teach
is founded in actual history. It is based on the man who God choose
from the rest of sinful mankind to build an Ark and save himself, his
wife, his 3 sons, and the wives of his sons, as well as animals from
all kinds of species. And then God sent a flood and destroyed wicked
mankind who was practicing lawlessness. This man was, of course,
Noah, and this is the biblical story of Noah and the Ark and the
flood.
Many of us are familiar with the idea that all mankind are descended
from Adam and Eve, the first humans, and we uphold this teaching.
But, because of the flood wiping out all sinful mankind, scripture
logically teaches that we are all descended from Noah As well. So,
because we are descended from Noah we use the term ‘Noahide’ to
designate such descent and belonging to the family
Of Noah. So that is what a Noahide is.
What is a Karaite?
The Jewish Bible is known by a number of terms. The Kara or the
Mikra. The Old Testament by Christians. The Hebrew Bible. Or the
Tenakh, which is an acronym designating the 3 sections of Torah,
Neviim and Kethuvim.
It was ratified at an ancient council of Israel at Jamnia, were the
official designation of the books we have today was confirmed.
Since that time it has served as the primary text of the religion of
Judaism, as well as the primary text for the religion of Christianity
which emerged after its formulation.
Gradually, after the text had been completed, ideas arose within the
Jewish community of traditions of accompanying teachings not
contained
in the Hebrew Bible. Eventually these teachings grew to be known as
the ‘Oral Law’ and Judah Ha Nisi compiled these teachings into the
manuscript known as the ‘Mishnah’. The Mishnah is the Oral Law of
Judaism. This Mishnah was written down in the early centuries of the
common or Christian era. Later from this time, in Babylon and in
Jerusalem, schools of Jewish thought developed commentaries on the
Mishnah. These commentaries came to be known as ‘The Gemara’.
Collectively, the Mishnah and the Gemara are called the ‘Talmudic’
literature of Judaism.
Well, not all Jews accepted some of the claims that the rabbis were
making about the Talmud. At the time of Jesus of Nazareth the
Sadducees rejected the Pharisees and their extra non-biblical
teachings. We don’t know what happened to the Sadducees, but later
on, after the Talmudic literature had been completed, Karaism arose
within Jewish thinking.
Karaism is this essential idea – the Hebrew Bible reflects the will
and word of Almighty God and the Talmudic literature, while perhaps
noteworthy for its various judgements and ideologies, simply reflects
rabbinic thought on the law of God, and should not be considered
binding in the same authoritative sense as scripture itself. Thus,
the orthodox Jewish mentality that the Talmudic literature
Was inspired since the time of Moses himself is rejected in favour of
a bible only approach.
So, combining the two ideas, a Karaite Noahide is a descendant of
Noah
who holds to the Hebrew or Jewish Bible as his religious text.
What is the difference between Jews and Noahides?
The Hebrew Bible, in terms of the differences between the peoples of
the world, bases this differences on the notion of ‘Covenant’. A
biblical covenant is usually between God and his people, but there
are
other covenants in the bible between groupings of people. A covenant
is alike a contract or an agreement, but the biblical ones carry the
idea of being perpetually binding – they do not end
With one generation, but carry on forever for all generations.
To keep it simple, after the flood all mankind today has descended
from Noah. Noah was 10th in the line of Adam and Eve. The Patriarch
Abram, renamed Abraham was 20th in the line of Adam and Eve. The
Patriarch Jacob, renamed Israel, is the father of the Jewish people.
Jacob is Abraham’s grandson, son of Isaac.
The three key covenants for peoples in the bible are these – Noah’s
covenant, from Genesis 9. Abraham’s two covenants from genesis 15
and
17. The Israelites peoples covenant from Moses generation onwards,
from Exodus 24.
The key promise of Noah’s covenant is that God will never again send
a
flood. This promise is to all mankind. Further, from Genesis 1 to
11:9, scripture elucidates numerous principles of faith which are
within the obligation for the children of Noah – Mankind today – to
obey. We of Haven Noahide Fellowship call this section of scripture
–
Genesis 1 to 11:9, the ‘Rainbow Bible’ or the ‘Noahide Bible’.
God dealt with the Noahide peoples of the world from Noah, until the
time of Abraham, 10 generations later. Then God focuses particularly
on Abraham and his generations, until the time of Moses, in which God
focused specifically on the Israelite people.
And each of these key areas of focus by God resulted in Covenants and
rulings pertaining to that covenant. For example, Abraham was
obligated under Noahide faith, but God entered into the covenant of
circumcision with him and, pertaining to that covenant, he has a
promise of seed and of land. These are the covenantal promises of
Abraham for keeping the circumcision.
For Moses generation, they blood of bulls as the sign of the covenant
sealed the obligation of Israel to obey the laws of this Covenant –
the laws which are found in the rest of the written torah, also known
as the Chumash or the Pentateuch, being the first five books of the
Hebrew Bible. These five books are commonly known as the 5 books of
Moses, relating the history of Moses for a large degree, primarily
from the second book – Exodus – to the end of the fifth book –
Deuteronomy.
Now the Jews are essentially the Israelite people. The term today
usually refers to all the Israelite people, but in the first instance
it was a derivative for the tribe of Judah. Yet, in honour of Judah,
as scripture decrees he would be the one his brothers would praise,
Israelites have become known as Jews, and the religion again in his
honour called ‘Judaism’.
So, Judaism is the religion for the Israelite people, and logically
the entire Hebrew Bible is relevant to them.
On the other hand, Noahide faith, which is also known as Noahidism,
is
relevant to the descendants of Noah, and the religious obligations
for
the rest of mankind.
There is, technically, a designation for children of Abraham not
descended from Israel, and as Ishmael was circumcised, it would seem
logical that those descendants of Abraham not descended from Israel
should continue to circumcise in the name of Abraham’s covenant.
This would entitle them to the promise of land promised to Abraham,
as
well as the obligation to keep the prior Noahide laws which remain
binding as well.
But for the majority of mankind today, we are to keep the faith which
Noah himself followed, which is Noahide faith.
Finally, the distinction between Karaite Noahides and the Orthodox
Noahides, being those Noahides who accept the Talmudic literature, is
that the Talmudic literatures teaches the concept of the ‘7 Laws of
Noah’, these seven laws being laws forbidding Idolatry, blasphemy,
murder, theft, sexual immorality, eating the limb of an animal and
failure to establish courts of law. In the Talmud magic issues
forbidden to Noahides are also addressed.
Talmudic Noahides keep the 7 laws of Noah, and these comprise the
earlier Noahide movement.
Karaite Noahides, alternatively, find disagreement in the concept of
the 7 laws as biblically non-historical, and instead hold to the
Hebrew Bible alone as the authority of scripture, and the Rainbow
Bible, which is Genesis 1 to 11:9, as the primary authority related
to
Noahides.
The last point on the Rainbow Bible itself is that this section of
scripture marks the historical delineation between the children of
mankind today’s ancestry – noahide ancestry – and the following
sections of genesis which go on to relate the ancestry for the
children of Abraham.
As Noahides, our primary scripture of concern is found in the Rainbow
Bible which is our covenantal relation with God.
The Rainbow Bible includes the idea of Sabbath for the Noahides,
amongst many other rulings, and it is the logical purpose of Israel
as
a light to the nations to promote this section of scripture to
mankind
for their salvation, as Isaiah 56 teaches.
Haven Noahide Fellowship follows Karaite Noahide faith.
http://noahidebooks.angelfire.com
http://www.myspace.com/noahides
Thank you
Daniel Thomas Andrew Daly
Head Pastor and Founder of Haven Noahide Fellowship
Greetings from myself, Daniel Thomas Andrew Daly, Head Pastor and
founder of Haven Noahide Fellowship. I will keep this as brief as I
can, but hopefully make it as informative as possible. This message
is introducing Karaite Noahide Faith or, perhaps a better term for
us,
Biblical or Bible-Only Noahide faith.
What is a Noahide?
A Noahide is a biblical concept which, for those who believe, we
teach
is founded in actual history. It is based on the man who God choose
from the rest of sinful mankind to build an Ark and save himself, his
wife, his 3 sons, and the wives of his sons, as well as animals from
all kinds of species. And then God sent a flood and destroyed wicked
mankind who was practicing lawlessness. This man was, of course,
Noah, and this is the biblical story of Noah and the Ark and the
flood.
Many of us are familiar with the idea that all mankind are descended
from Adam and Eve, the first humans, and we uphold this teaching.
But, because of the flood wiping out all sinful mankind, scripture
logically teaches that we are all descended from Noah As well. So,
because we are descended from Noah we use the term ‘Noahide’ to
designate such descent and belonging to the family
Of Noah. So that is what a Noahide is.
What is a Karaite?
The Jewish Bible is known by a number of terms. The Kara or the
Mikra. The Old Testament by Christians. The Hebrew Bible. Or the
Tenakh, which is an acronym designating the 3 sections of Torah,
Neviim and Kethuvim.
It was ratified at an ancient council of Israel at Jamnia, were the
official designation of the books we have today was confirmed.
Since that time it has served as the primary text of the religion of
Judaism, as well as the primary text for the religion of Christianity
which emerged after its formulation.
Gradually, after the text had been completed, ideas arose within the
Jewish community of traditions of accompanying teachings not
contained
in the Hebrew Bible. Eventually these teachings grew to be known as
the ‘Oral Law’ and Judah Ha Nisi compiled these teachings into the
manuscript known as the ‘Mishnah’. The Mishnah is the Oral Law of
Judaism. This Mishnah was written down in the early centuries of the
common or Christian era. Later from this time, in Babylon and in
Jerusalem, schools of Jewish thought developed commentaries on the
Mishnah. These commentaries came to be known as ‘The Gemara’.
Collectively, the Mishnah and the Gemara are called the ‘Talmudic’
literature of Judaism.
Well, not all Jews accepted some of the claims that the rabbis were
making about the Talmud. At the time of Jesus of Nazareth the
Sadducees rejected the Pharisees and their extra non-biblical
teachings. We don’t know what happened to the Sadducees, but later
on, after the Talmudic literature had been completed, Karaism arose
within Jewish thinking.
Karaism is this essential idea – the Hebrew Bible reflects the will
and word of Almighty God and the Talmudic literature, while perhaps
noteworthy for its various judgements and ideologies, simply reflects
rabbinic thought on the law of God, and should not be considered
binding in the same authoritative sense as scripture itself. Thus,
the orthodox Jewish mentality that the Talmudic literature
Was inspired since the time of Moses himself is rejected in favour of
a bible only approach.
So, combining the two ideas, a Karaite Noahide is a descendant of
Noah
who holds to the Hebrew or Jewish Bible as his religious text.
What is the difference between Jews and Noahides?
The Hebrew Bible, in terms of the differences between the peoples of
the world, bases this differences on the notion of ‘Covenant’. A
biblical covenant is usually between God and his people, but there
are
other covenants in the bible between groupings of people. A covenant
is alike a contract or an agreement, but the biblical ones carry the
idea of being perpetually binding – they do not end
With one generation, but carry on forever for all generations.
To keep it simple, after the flood all mankind today has descended
from Noah. Noah was 10th in the line of Adam and Eve. The Patriarch
Abram, renamed Abraham was 20th in the line of Adam and Eve. The
Patriarch Jacob, renamed Israel, is the father of the Jewish people.
Jacob is Abraham’s grandson, son of Isaac.
The three key covenants for peoples in the bible are these – Noah’s
covenant, from Genesis 9. Abraham’s two covenants from genesis 15
and
17. The Israelites peoples covenant from Moses generation onwards,
from Exodus 24.
The key promise of Noah’s covenant is that God will never again send
a
flood. This promise is to all mankind. Further, from Genesis 1 to
11:9, scripture elucidates numerous principles of faith which are
within the obligation for the children of Noah – Mankind today – to
obey. We of Haven Noahide Fellowship call this section of scripture
–
Genesis 1 to 11:9, the ‘Rainbow Bible’ or the ‘Noahide Bible’.
God dealt with the Noahide peoples of the world from Noah, until the
time of Abraham, 10 generations later. Then God focuses particularly
on Abraham and his generations, until the time of Moses, in which God
focused specifically on the Israelite people.
And each of these key areas of focus by God resulted in Covenants and
rulings pertaining to that covenant. For example, Abraham was
obligated under Noahide faith, but God entered into the covenant of
circumcision with him and, pertaining to that covenant, he has a
promise of seed and of land. These are the covenantal promises of
Abraham for keeping the circumcision.
For Moses generation, they blood of bulls as the sign of the covenant
sealed the obligation of Israel to obey the laws of this Covenant –
the laws which are found in the rest of the written torah, also known
as the Chumash or the Pentateuch, being the first five books of the
Hebrew Bible. These five books are commonly known as the 5 books of
Moses, relating the history of Moses for a large degree, primarily
from the second book – Exodus – to the end of the fifth book –
Deuteronomy.
Now the Jews are essentially the Israelite people. The term today
usually refers to all the Israelite people, but in the first instance
it was a derivative for the tribe of Judah. Yet, in honour of Judah,
as scripture decrees he would be the one his brothers would praise,
Israelites have become known as Jews, and the religion again in his
honour called ‘Judaism’.
So, Judaism is the religion for the Israelite people, and logically
the entire Hebrew Bible is relevant to them.
On the other hand, Noahide faith, which is also known as Noahidism,
is
relevant to the descendants of Noah, and the religious obligations
for
the rest of mankind.
There is, technically, a designation for children of Abraham not
descended from Israel, and as Ishmael was circumcised, it would seem
logical that those descendants of Abraham not descended from Israel
should continue to circumcise in the name of Abraham’s covenant.
This would entitle them to the promise of land promised to Abraham,
as
well as the obligation to keep the prior Noahide laws which remain
binding as well.
But for the majority of mankind today, we are to keep the faith which
Noah himself followed, which is Noahide faith.
Finally, the distinction between Karaite Noahides and the Orthodox
Noahides, being those Noahides who accept the Talmudic literature, is
that the Talmudic literatures teaches the concept of the ‘7 Laws of
Noah’, these seven laws being laws forbidding Idolatry, blasphemy,
murder, theft, sexual immorality, eating the limb of an animal and
failure to establish courts of law. In the Talmud magic issues
forbidden to Noahides are also addressed.
Talmudic Noahides keep the 7 laws of Noah, and these comprise the
earlier Noahide movement.
Karaite Noahides, alternatively, find disagreement in the concept of
the 7 laws as biblically non-historical, and instead hold to the
Hebrew Bible alone as the authority of scripture, and the Rainbow
Bible, which is Genesis 1 to 11:9, as the primary authority related
to
Noahides.
The last point on the Rainbow Bible itself is that this section of
scripture marks the historical delineation between the children of
mankind today’s ancestry – noahide ancestry – and the following
sections of genesis which go on to relate the ancestry for the
children of Abraham.
As Noahides, our primary scripture of concern is found in the Rainbow
Bible which is our covenantal relation with God.
The Rainbow Bible includes the idea of Sabbath for the Noahides,
amongst many other rulings, and it is the logical purpose of Israel
as
a light to the nations to promote this section of scripture to
mankind
for their salvation, as Isaiah 56 teaches.
Haven Noahide Fellowship follows Karaite Noahide faith.
http://noahidebooks.angelfire.com
http://www.myspace.com/noahides
Thank you
Daniel Thomas Andrew Daly
Head Pastor and Founder of Haven Noahide Fellowship