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Strikes at the very foundation of the Bahai Cause (73-74).
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Ruth White
2009-07-23 11:10:19 UTC
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This statement strikes at the very foundation of the Bahai Cause (73-74).


Ruth White. Abdul Baha's Questioned Will and Testament.
Beverly Hills: White, 1946.


"Abdul Baha said that if an angel from heaven comes down and tries to
change the teachings of Baha'u'llah, do not believe him. Shoghi Effendi
has changed them by pronouncements and actions which are in direct
contradiction to Bahai teachings--above all he has changed the very
character and fundamental principle of the Cause by putting a theocracy,
which the founders said it was not [boldface in original], in place of
the spiritual democracy which they said, over and over again, it is. The
following instances show what acceptance of the alleged will has done to
the blind followers of its rules."

"Mr. Horace Holley, as spokesman for Shoghi Effendi, made this statement
in 1925: 'The individual conscience must be subordinated to the
decisions of the elected Spiritual Assembly.'" [boldface in original]

"This statement strikes at the very foundation of the Bahai Cause, as
one of its cardinal teachings is that man must have freedom of
conscience. Among dozens of instances that could be given of
Abdu'l-Baha's statements on this subject is the following: '... the
conscience of man is sacred and to be respected . . . '" (73-74).
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Ruth%20White.htm


-- The Baha'i Faith & Religious Freedom of Conscience
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/
See 2007 - Lawsuit by Wilmette NSA Against Other Denominations

http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/
Dr. C. (Charles) Ainsworth Mitchell
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/CAMitchell_Report.htm
seon
2009-07-26 11:55:55 UTC
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Post by Ruth White
This statement strikes at the very foundation of the Bahai Cause (73-74).
Ruth White. Abdul Baha's Questioned Will and Testament.
Beverly Hills: White, 1946.
"Abdul Baha said that if an angel from heaven comes down and tries to
change the teachings of Baha'u'llah, do not believe him. Shoghi Effendi
has changed them by pronouncements and actions which are in direct
contradiction to Bahai teachings--above all he has changed the very
character and fundamental principle of the Cause by putting a theocracy,
which the founders said it was not [boldface in original], in place of the
spiritual democracy which they said, over and over again, it is. The
following instances show what acceptance of the alleged will has done to
the blind followers of its rules."
"Mr. Horace Holley, as spokesman for Shoghi Effendi, made this statement
in 1925: 'The individual conscience must be subordinated to the decisions
of the elected Spiritual Assembly.'" [boldface in original]
"This statement strikes at the very foundation of the Bahai Cause, as one
of its cardinal teachings is that man must have freedom of conscience.
Among dozens of instances that could be given of Abdu'l-Baha's statements
on this subject is the following: '... the conscience of man is sacred and
to be respected . . . '" (73-74).
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Ruth%20White.htm
-- The Baha'i Faith & Religious Freedom of Conscience
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/
See 2007 - Lawsuit by Wilmette NSA Against Other Denominations
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/
Dr. C. (Charles) Ainsworth Mitchell
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/CAMitchell_Report.htm
Wow I'm sorry I joined this group after you stopped posting. While I agree
that all faiths lead to God and that God sent a prophet to each period of
time to get people to turn to him I think someone will come after Bahaullah.
Bahaullah and Muhammad and even the Bab were not the final prophets. The
Bahai faith is just a teaching for a specific time, and update if you will.
At least that's what I believe.

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