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Australian PM Kevin Rudd apologizes to Indigenous Australians - "Sorry"
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383
2008-02-13 01:51:58 UTC
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Will the Baha'is ever apologize to the People of the Bayan and the
Central Figures of the gnostic religion of the Bayan for the pain and
injustice they inflicted on us?

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Shahriar
2008-02-13 02:40:18 UTC
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Will the Baha'is ever apologize to the People of the Bayan and the
Central Figures of the gnostic religion of the Bayan for the pain and
injustice they inflicted on us?
W
Was it really painful ... ohhh ... come to daddy ....
383
2008-02-13 04:56:43 UTC
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Post by Shahriar
Was it really painful ... ohhh ... come to daddy ....
Yes, I know all about the dark, dirty secrets kept hidden within your
family. But don't assume that everybody else is a molested child like
you and all the rest of your kin, sag firqe'i.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23206140-2,00.html
http://www.video.news.com.au/newsinteractive/videopage/videoplayer/?C...

Will the Baha'is ever apologize to the People of the Bayan and the
Central Figures of the gnostic religion of the Bayan for the pain and
injustice they inflicted on us?

W
Shahriar
2008-02-13 07:59:22 UTC
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Post by Shahriar
Was it really painful ... ohhh ... come to daddy ....
Yes, I know all about the dark, dirty secrets kept hidden within your
family. But don't assume that everybody else is a molested child like
you and all the rest of your kin, sag firqe'i.
Why should you take everything in the wrong direction!!?? well, aren't you
taking everything in the wrong direction?? wrong direction is what you are
taking everything!
by the way, how is that you know about all that dark secret stuff ...
oohhh... its that schizophrenic conclusion of course.
383
2008-02-13 09:36:33 UTC
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Post by 383
you and all the rest of your kin, sag firqe'i.
Why should you take everything in the wrong direction!!??
Go to hell, cultist asshole, and burn!

<BS bahaim snip>


BAHAIM Tactics & Techniques

1. As far as possible they hold back from responding
2. Then they claim no knowledge [of the given issue] by feigning
ignorance
3. After the exposer has exposed they will try to divert to secondary
and totally peripheral and irrelevent side-issues
4. The exposer is then painted as someone with an axe to grind,
biased, deluded (while they, the bahaim, still have not responded to
the main issue exposed)
5. Next they relate mental instability and insanity to the exposer
[i.e. shoot the messenger]
6. Then, the last tactic, is to wheel out several dubious personas on
the scene who claim to be neutral non-bahai observers who then begin
attacking the exposer as well as the issue exposed and supporting the
bahais and their issues as so-called non-bahais

The BAHAIM Technique

Caution - THE BAHAI TECHNIQUE

"Slanderous Vilification" = The Baha'i Technique - Ad Hominem, Libel,
Slander, Demonize, Scapegoat, Ostracize, Shun, Banish, Backbite,
Defame, Vilify, Discredit, Smear, Revile, Suppress, Attack, Bully,
Intimidate, Threaten, Malign, Blackball, Deceive, Coerce, Silence,
Harass... etc., etc.... CAUTION NON-BAHAIS
GAZAMAT
2008-02-13 10:13:48 UTC
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Will the Baha'is ever apologize to the People of the Bayan and the
Central Figures of the gnostic religion of the Bayan for the pain and
injustice they inflicted on us?
W
LOL . . . one day.
Seon Ferguson
2008-02-15 03:04:40 UTC
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http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23206140-2,00.html
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Will the Baha'is ever apologize to the People of the Bayan and the
Central Figures of the gnostic religion of the Bayan for the pain and
injustice they inflicted on us?
I'm not disagreeing with you but what did they do? apart from making the bab
as obsolete as John the Baptist when he clearly was a messenger from God.
383
2008-02-15 04:00:22 UTC
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Post by 383
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23206140-2,00.html
http://www.video.news.com.au/newsinteractive/videopage/videoplayer/?C...
Will the Baha'is ever apologize to the People of the Bayan and the
Central Figures of the gnostic religion of the Bayan for the pain and
injustice they inflicted on us?
I'm not disagreeing with you but what did they do? apart from making the bab
as obsolete as John the Baptist when he clearly was a messenger from God.
They murdered prominent Babis in Baghdad, Edirne and Acre. Falsified,
whitewashed and sanitized Babi history. Falsely acquired and
monopolized Babi holy relics, texts and sacred sites. Libeled and
defamed Falsely made a business of the name and a shrine in Israel
they claim houses the final remains of the Bab - when it doesn't - and
generally lied, stole, deceived, blackballed etc.

W
Seon Ferguson
2008-02-15 06:31:08 UTC
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Post by Seon Ferguson
Post by 383
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23206140-2,00.html
http://www.video.news.com.au/newsinteractive/videopage/videoplayer/?C...
Will the Baha'is ever apologize to the People of the Bayan and the
Central Figures of the gnostic religion of the Bayan for the pain and
injustice they inflicted on us?
I'm not disagreeing with you but what did they do? apart from making the bab
as obsolete as John the Baptist when he clearly was a messenger from God.
They murdered prominent Babis in Baghdad, Edirne and Acre. Falsified,
whitewashed and sanitized Babi history. Falsely acquired and
monopolized Babi holy relics, texts and sacred sites. Libeled and
defamed Falsely made a business of the name and a shrine in Israel
they claim houses the final remains of the Bab - when it doesn't - and
generally lied, stole, deceived, blackballed etc.
I agree that they have falsified babi history. But only because I have a
feeling that there is more to the Bab then what the Bahia's tell me (they
compare him to John the Baptist. I think he's more like Moses) dont ask me
where that feeling comes from though its just like a hunch. Do they have any
evidence it houses the final remains of him or is it just a way to earn a
quick tourist buck? How did they falsely acquire Babi holly relics and
stuff? is there a site that hasn't been touched by the hafins where I can
learn more?
383
2008-02-15 08:31:22 UTC
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Post by Seon Ferguson
I agree that they have falsified babi history. But only because I have a
feeling that there is more to the Bab then what the Bahia's tell me
There is a lot, lot more.
Post by Seon Ferguson
(they
compare him to John the Baptist. I think he's more like Moses) dont ask me
where that feeling comes from though its just like a hunch.
Follow the hunch. It is spot-on correct. It is not just a hunch it is
a full-on epiphany.
Post by Seon Ferguson
Do they have any
evidence it houses the final remains of him or is it just a way to earn a
quick tourist buck?
It is a manufactured horse to gain political capital out of nothing.
We know where the final remains of the Bab are. They are in Iran in an
undisclosed location. In the 1860s when the split between the People
of the Bayan and baha'im began, the father of Subh-i-Azal and Husayn
'Ali Baha, i.e. Mirza Buzurg Nuri, was buried in Karbala, Iraq. When
the Ottoman authorities expelled Subh-i-Azal, Husayn 'Ali and the
other Babis around them from Baghdad, Husayn 'Ali had the remains
disinterred from it resting place in Karbala and carted off the corpse
with him into exile until he and his rag-tag settled in Palestine. The
body was interred in various homes and lodgings until it was finally
laid to rest in Mt Carmel by Abbas Effendi. Subsequently the Baha'is
made up a long tale about how the body was that of the Bab's. It was
not. The body was and is that of Mirza Bozorg Nuri, not the Bab. Today
the tale that the shrine holds the final remains of the Bab is just a
way for them to earn their pilgrimage tourist dollars and keep the
charade going, but like everything else with these people, on a lie.
The Bab is buried in Iran, not Palestine.
Post by Seon Ferguson
How did they falsely acquire Babi holly relics and
stuff?
They stole them from Subh-i-Azal and those Bayanis whom they murdered.
Post by Seon Ferguson
is there a site that hasn't been touched by the hafins where I can
learn more?
www.bayanic.com

and

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bayan19/

W
Seon Ferguson
2008-02-16 02:29:29 UTC
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Post by 383
Post by Seon Ferguson
I agree that they have falsified babi history. But only because I have a
feeling that there is more to the Bab then what the Bahia's tell me
There is a lot, lot more.
Post by Seon Ferguson
(they
compare him to John the Baptist. I think he's more like Moses) dont ask me
where that feeling comes from though its just like a hunch.
Follow the hunch. It is spot-on correct. It is not just a hunch it is
a full-on epiphany.
It feels that way to me. How else would I know?
Post by 383
Post by Seon Ferguson
Do they have any
evidence it houses the final remains of him or is it just a way to earn a
quick tourist buck?
It is a manufactured horse to gain political capital out of nothing.
We know where the final remains of the Bab are. They are in Iran in an
undisclosed location. In the 1860s when the split between the People
of the Bayan and baha'im began, the father of Subh-i-Azal and Husayn
'Ali Baha, i.e. Mirza Buzurg Nuri, was buried in Karbala, Iraq. When
the Ottoman authorities expelled Subh-i-Azal, Husayn 'Ali and the
other Babis around them from Baghdad, Husayn 'Ali had the remains
disinterred from it resting place in Karbala and carted off the corpse
with him into exile until he and his rag-tag settled in Palestine. The
body was interred in various homes and lodgings until it was finally
laid to rest in Mt Carmel by Abbas Effendi. Subsequently the Baha'is
made up a long tale about how the body was that of the Bab's. It was
not. The body was and is that of Mirza Bozorg Nuri, not the Bab. Today
the tale that the shrine holds the final remains of the Bab is just a
way for them to earn their pilgrimage tourist dollars and keep the
charade going, but like everything else with these people, on a lie.
The Bab is buried in Iran, not Palestine.
If its that obvious I cant believe they are still dimwits who pay all that
money to make the pilgrimage and I thought Christians were dumb.
Post by 383
Post by Seon Ferguson
How did they falsely acquire Babi holly relics and
stuff?
They stole them from Subh-i-Azal and those Bayanis whom they murdered.
I'm going to research that name. It will be hard to tell which is a bahai
propaganda site or which isnt.
Post by 383
Post by Seon Ferguson
is there a site that hasn't been touched by the hafins where I can
learn more?
www.bayanic.com
and
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bayan19/
W
Thanks I'll check them out and join the yahoo group.
383
2008-02-16 03:24:32 UTC
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Post by Seon Ferguson
I'm going to research that name. It will be hard to tell which is a bahai
propaganda site or which isnt.
Stay away from the Wikipedia entry. I've been engaged in a never
ending edit war with the Bahais who are pushing their own propaganda
narratives. They are also monopolizing 2/3 of the entries on virutally
every religious topic as a means to put their stamp on the whole of
wikipedia.
W.
Seon Ferguson
2008-02-16 04:33:59 UTC
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Post by 383
Post by Seon Ferguson
I'm going to research that name. It will be hard to tell which is a bahai
propaganda site or which isnt.
Stay away from the Wikipedia entry. I've been engaged in a never
ending edit war with the Bahais who are pushing their own propaganda
narratives. They are also monopolizing 2/3 of the entries on virutally
every religious topic as a means to put their stamp on the whole of
wikipedia.
W.
I know Wikipedia doesn't mention anything about Bahai's persecuting the
Bab's followers. It just talks about massacres carried out by Muslims, or
were those the massacres you were talking about? (maybe those editors were
covering up Bahai's involvement)
All Bad
2008-02-17 13:50:43 UTC
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Post by Seon Ferguson
Post by 383
Post by Seon Ferguson
I agree that they have falsified babi history. But only because I have a
feeling that there is more to the Bab then what the Bahia's tell me
There is a lot, lot more.
Post by Seon Ferguson
(they
compare him to John the Baptist. I think he's more like Moses) dont ask me
where that feeling comes from though its just like a hunch.
Follow the hunch. It is spot-on correct. It is not just a hunch it is
a full-on epiphany.
It feels that way to me. How else would I know?
Post by 383
Post by Seon Ferguson
Do they have any
evidence it houses the final remains of him or is it just a way to earn a
quick tourist buck?
It is a manufactured horse to gain political capital out of nothing.
We know where the final remains of the Bab are. They are in Iran in an
undisclosed location. In the 1860s when the split between the People
of the Bayan and baha'im began, the father of Subh-i-Azal and Husayn
'Ali Baha, i.e. Mirza Buzurg Nuri, was buried in Karbala, Iraq. When
the Ottoman authorities expelled Subh-i-Azal, Husayn 'Ali and the
other Babis around them from Baghdad, Husayn 'Ali had the remains
disinterred from it resting place in Karbala and carted off the corpse
with him into exile until he and his rag-tag settled in Palestine. The
body was interred in various homes and lodgings until it was finally
laid to rest in Mt Carmel by Abbas Effendi. Subsequently the Baha'is
made up a long tale about how the body was that of the Bab's. It was
not. The body was and is that of Mirza Bozorg Nuri, not the Bab. Today
the tale that the shrine holds the final remains of the Bab is just a
way for them to earn their pilgrimage tourist dollars and keep the
charade going, but like everything else with these people, on a lie.
The Bab is buried in Iran, not Palestine.
If its that obvious I cant believe they are still dimwits who pay all that
money to make the pilgrimage and I thought Christians were dumb.
The pilgramage subject is problematic. Baha'u'llah wrote two Tablets of
Pilgramage: one for the House of the Bab in Shraz, and the second for a
House of Baha'u'llah in Baghdad. Baha'u'llah did not establish a pilgramage
for tombs, nor Haifa nor Akka.

There is an angle of divergence between what Baha'u'llah, or any
Manifestation taught, and the common practices and beliefs of the avowed
followers, in this case, Baha'is circa 2008 CE.

- All Bad

- All Bad
Post by Seon Ferguson
Post by 383
Post by Seon Ferguson
How did they falsely acquire Babi holly relics and
stuff?
They stole them from Subh-i-Azal and those Bayanis whom they murdered.
I'm going to research that name. It will be hard to tell which is a bahai
propaganda site or which isnt.
Post by 383
Post by Seon Ferguson
is there a site that hasn't been touched by the hafins where I can
learn more?
www.bayanic.com
and
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bayan19/
W
Thanks I'll check them out and join the yahoo group.
Seon Ferguson
2008-02-17 23:24:40 UTC
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Post by All Bad
Post by Seon Ferguson
Post by 383
Post by Seon Ferguson
I agree that they have falsified babi history. But only because I have a
feeling that there is more to the Bab then what the Bahia's tell me
There is a lot, lot more.
Post by Seon Ferguson
(they
compare him to John the Baptist. I think he's more like Moses) dont ask me
where that feeling comes from though its just like a hunch.
Follow the hunch. It is spot-on correct. It is not just a hunch it is
a full-on epiphany.
It feels that way to me. How else would I know?
Post by 383
Post by Seon Ferguson
Do they have any
evidence it houses the final remains of him or is it just a way to earn a
quick tourist buck?
It is a manufactured horse to gain political capital out of nothing.
We know where the final remains of the Bab are. They are in Iran in an
undisclosed location. In the 1860s when the split between the People
of the Bayan and baha'im began, the father of Subh-i-Azal and Husayn
'Ali Baha, i.e. Mirza Buzurg Nuri, was buried in Karbala, Iraq. When
the Ottoman authorities expelled Subh-i-Azal, Husayn 'Ali and the
other Babis around them from Baghdad, Husayn 'Ali had the remains
disinterred from it resting place in Karbala and carted off the corpse
with him into exile until he and his rag-tag settled in Palestine. The
body was interred in various homes and lodgings until it was finally
laid to rest in Mt Carmel by Abbas Effendi. Subsequently the Baha'is
made up a long tale about how the body was that of the Bab's. It was
not. The body was and is that of Mirza Bozorg Nuri, not the Bab. Today
the tale that the shrine holds the final remains of the Bab is just a
way for them to earn their pilgrimage tourist dollars and keep the
charade going, but like everything else with these people, on a lie.
The Bab is buried in Iran, not Palestine.
If its that obvious I cant believe they are still dimwits who pay all
that money to make the pilgrimage and I thought Christians were dumb.
The pilgramage subject is problematic. Baha'u'llah wrote two Tablets of
Pilgramage: one for the House of the Bab in Shraz, and the second for a
House of Baha'u'llah in Baghdad. Baha'u'llah did not establish a
pilgramage for tombs, nor Haifa nor Akka.
There is an angle of divergence between what Baha'u'llah, or any
Manifestation taught, and the common practices and beliefs of the avowed
followers, in this case, Baha'is circa 2008 CE.
- All Bad
- All Bad
But the point was Baha'u'llah's remains arent there like you lot clame. What
do you take us for fools?
383
2008-02-18 03:29:17 UTC
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Post by Seon Ferguson
Post by All Bad
Post by Seon Ferguson
Post by 383
Post by Seon Ferguson
I agree that they have falsified babi history. But only because I have a
feeling that there is more to the Bab then what the Bahia's tell me
There is a lot, lot more.
Post by Seon Ferguson
(they
compare him to John the Baptist. I think he's more like Moses) dont ask me
where that feeling comes from though its just like a hunch.
Follow the hunch. It is spot-on correct. It is not just a hunch it is
a full-on epiphany.
It feels that way to me. How else would I know?
Post by 383
Post by Seon Ferguson
Do they have any
evidence it houses the final remains of him or is it just a way to earn a
quick tourist buck?
It is a manufactured horse to gain political capital out of nothing.
We know where the final remains of the Bab are. They are in Iran in an
undisclosed location. In the 1860s when the split between the People
of the Bayan and baha'im began, the father of Subh-i-Azal and Husayn
'Ali Baha, i.e. Mirza Buzurg Nuri, was buried in Karbala, Iraq. When
the Ottoman authorities expelled Subh-i-Azal, Husayn 'Ali and the
other Babis around them from Baghdad, Husayn 'Ali had the remains
disinterred from it resting place in Karbala and carted off the corpse
with him into exile until he and his rag-tag settled in Palestine. The
body was interred in various homes and lodgings until it was finally
laid to rest in Mt Carmel by Abbas Effendi. Subsequently the Baha'is
made up a long tale about how the body was that of the Bab's. It was
not. The body was and is that of Mirza Bozorg Nuri, not the Bab. Today
the tale that the shrine holds the final remains of the Bab is just a
way for them to earn their pilgrimage tourist dollars and keep the
charade going, but like everything else with these people, on a lie.
The Bab is buried in Iran, not Palestine.
If its that obvious I cant believe they are still dimwits who pay all
that money to make the pilgrimage and I thought Christians were dumb.
The pilgramage subject is problematic. Baha'u'llah wrote two Tablets of
Pilgramage: one for the House of the Bab in Shraz, and the second for a
House of Baha'u'llah in Baghdad. Baha'u'llah did not establish a
pilgramage for tombs, nor Haifa nor Akka.
There is an angle of divergence between what Baha'u'llah, or any
Manifestation taught, and the common practices and beliefs of the avowed
followers, in this case, Baha'is circa 2008 CE.
- All Bad
- All Bad
But the point was Baha'u'llah's remains arent there like you lot clame. What
do you take us for fools?
The Bab, not 238.

W
Seon Ferguson
2008-02-18 07:27:35 UTC
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Post by Seon Ferguson
Post by All Bad
Post by Seon Ferguson
Post by 383
Post by Seon Ferguson
I agree that they have falsified babi history. But only because I
have
a
feeling that there is more to the Bab then what the Bahia's tell me
There is a lot, lot more.
Post by Seon Ferguson
(they
compare him to John the Baptist. I think he's more like Moses) dont
ask
me
where that feeling comes from though its just like a hunch.
Follow the hunch. It is spot-on correct. It is not just a hunch it is
a full-on epiphany.
It feels that way to me. How else would I know?
Post by 383
Post by Seon Ferguson
Do they have any
evidence it houses the final remains of him or is it just a way to
earn
a
quick tourist buck?
It is a manufactured horse to gain political capital out of nothing.
We know where the final remains of the Bab are. They are in Iran in an
undisclosed location. In the 1860s when the split between the People
of the Bayan and baha'im began, the father of Subh-i-Azal and Husayn
'Ali Baha, i.e. Mirza Buzurg Nuri, was buried in Karbala, Iraq. When
the Ottoman authorities expelled Subh-i-Azal, Husayn 'Ali and the
other Babis around them from Baghdad, Husayn 'Ali had the remains
disinterred from it resting place in Karbala and carted off the corpse
with him into exile until he and his rag-tag settled in Palestine. The
body was interred in various homes and lodgings until it was finally
laid to rest in Mt Carmel by Abbas Effendi. Subsequently the Baha'is
made up a long tale about how the body was that of the Bab's. It was
not. The body was and is that of Mirza Bozorg Nuri, not the Bab. Today
the tale that the shrine holds the final remains of the Bab is just a
way for them to earn their pilgrimage tourist dollars and keep the
charade going, but like everything else with these people, on a lie.
The Bab is buried in Iran, not Palestine.
If its that obvious I cant believe they are still dimwits who pay all
that money to make the pilgrimage and I thought Christians were dumb.
The pilgramage subject is problematic. Baha'u'llah wrote two Tablets of
Pilgramage: one for the House of the Bab in Shraz, and the second for a
House of Baha'u'llah in Baghdad. Baha'u'llah did not establish a
pilgramage for tombs, nor Haifa nor Akka.
There is an angle of divergence between what Baha'u'llah, or any
Manifestation taught, and the common practices and beliefs of the avowed
followers, in this case, Baha'is circa 2008 CE.
- All Bad
- All Bad
But the point was Baha'u'llah's remains arent there like you lot clame. What
do you take us for fools?
The Bab, not 238.
Oh thats one of my trademark mistakes you pointed out
383
2008-02-18 08:52:05 UTC
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Post by Seon Ferguson
Post by 383
Post by Seon Ferguson
Post by All Bad
Post by Seon Ferguson
Post by 383
Post by Seon Ferguson
I agree that they have falsified babi history. But only because I
have
a
feeling that there is more to the Bab then what the Bahia's tell me
There is a lot, lot more.
Post by Seon Ferguson
(they
compare him to John the Baptist. I think he's more like Moses) dont
ask
me
where that feeling comes from though its just like a hunch.
Follow the hunch. It is spot-on correct. It is not just a hunch it is
a full-on epiphany.
It feels that way to me. How else would I know?
Post by 383
Post by Seon Ferguson
Do they have any
evidence it houses the final remains of him or is it just a way to
earn
a
quick tourist buck?
It is a manufactured horse to gain political capital out of nothing.
We know where the final remains of the Bab are. They are in Iran in an
undisclosed location. In the 1860s when the split between the People
of the Bayan and baha'im began, the father of Subh-i-Azal and Husayn
'Ali Baha, i.e. Mirza Buzurg Nuri, was buried in Karbala, Iraq. When
the Ottoman authorities expelled Subh-i-Azal, Husayn 'Ali and the
other Babis around them from Baghdad, Husayn 'Ali had the remains
disinterred from it resting place in Karbala and carted off the corpse
with him into exile until he and his rag-tag settled in Palestine. The
body was interred in various homes and lodgings until it was finally
laid to rest in Mt Carmel by Abbas Effendi. Subsequently the Baha'is
made up a long tale about how the body was that of the Bab's. It was
not. The body was and is that of Mirza Bozorg Nuri, not the Bab. Today
the tale that the shrine holds the final remains of the Bab is just a
way for them to earn their pilgrimage tourist dollars and keep the
charade going, but like everything else with these people, on a lie.
The Bab is buried in Iran, not Palestine.
If its that obvious I cant believe they are still dimwits who pay all
that money to make the pilgrimage and I thought Christians were dumb.
The pilgramage subject is problematic. Baha'u'llah wrote two Tablets of
Pilgramage: one for the House of the Bab in Shraz, and the second for a
House of Baha'u'llah in Baghdad. Baha'u'llah did not establish a
pilgramage for tombs, nor Haifa nor Akka.
There is an angle of divergence between what Baha'u'llah, or any
Manifestation taught, and the common practices and beliefs of the avowed
followers, in this case, Baha'is circa 2008 CE.
- All Bad
- All Bad
But the point was Baha'u'llah's remains arent there like you lot clame. What
do you take us for fools?
The Bab, not 238.
Oh thats one of my trademark mistakes you pointed out
No worries!

W
All Bad
2008-02-18 15:05:00 UTC
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Post by Seon Ferguson
Post by All Bad
Post by Seon Ferguson
If its that obvious I cant believe they are still dimwits who pay all
that money to make the pilgrimage and I thought Christians were dumb.
The pilgramage subject is problematic. Baha'u'llah wrote two Tablets of
Pilgramage: one for the House of the Bab in Shraz, and the second for a
House of Baha'u'llah in Baghdad. Baha'u'llah did not establish a
pilgramage for tombs, nor Haifa nor Akka.
There is an angle of divergence between what Baha'u'llah, or any
Manifestation taught, and the common practices and beliefs of the avowed
followers, in this case, Baha'is circa 2008 CE.
- All Bad
- All Bad
But the point was Baha'u'llah's remains arent there like you lot clame.
They are there.
Post by Seon Ferguson
What do you take us for fools?
I am confused. I'm not trying to tell you that the tomb is empty, like some
other folks w/ a tomb a fifty miles to the east. Maybe you are confused as
to who would take you to be a fool, too.

But if you've been listening to the nitwit who'd have you believe that the
bahooooveyeyeyeys built a big shrine for a regular Joe, while the Primal
Point is in an unmarked grave, someone IS taking you for the fool.

- All Bad
Seon Ferguson
2008-02-18 23:27:47 UTC
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Post by All Bad
(snip)
Post by Seon Ferguson
Post by All Bad
Post by Seon Ferguson
If its that obvious I cant believe they are still dimwits who pay all
that money to make the pilgrimage and I thought Christians were dumb.
The pilgramage subject is problematic. Baha'u'llah wrote two Tablets of
Pilgramage: one for the House of the Bab in Shraz, and the second for a
House of Baha'u'llah in Baghdad. Baha'u'llah did not establish a
pilgramage for tombs, nor Haifa nor Akka.
There is an angle of divergence between what Baha'u'llah, or any
Manifestation taught, and the common practices and beliefs of the avowed
followers, in this case, Baha'is circa 2008 CE.
- All Bad
- All Bad
But the point was Baha'u'llah's remains arent there like you lot clame.
They are there.
Yeah I got them mixed up with the Bab's remains. Boy was that a blunder.
383
2008-02-19 06:17:04 UTC
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Post by All Bad
But if you've been listening to the nitwit who'd have you believe that the
bahooooveyeyeyeys built a big shrine for a regular Joe, while the Primal
Point is in an unmarked grave, someone IS taking you for the fool.
Observe, Sean, that if the issue of the bogus shrine is revealed for
the fraud that it is, housing the remains of Mirza Borog Nuri rather
than the Primal Point, the whole house of cards comes crash tumbling
down. And speaking of nitwits,

http://groups.google.com/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/bcd3fff3c62816ea/000fbd87c88b8d16?lnk=gst&q=Rod+Wicks+on+KKKholi#000fbd87c88b8d16

W
383
2008-02-18 03:32:53 UTC
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Post by All Bad
There is an angle of divergence between what Baha'u'llah, or any
Manifestation taught, and the common practices and beliefs of the avowed
followers, in this case, Baha'is circa 2008 CE.
No divergence at all. You are the same bunch of thugs, liars and
criminals during your profit's lifetime as you are now.

W
All Bad
2008-02-18 15:08:39 UTC
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Post by 383
Post by All Bad
There is an angle of divergence between what Baha'u'llah, or any
Manifestation taught, and the common practices and beliefs of the avowed
followers, in this case, Baha'is circa 2008 CE.
No divergence at all. You are the same bunch of thugs, liars and
criminals during your profit's lifetime as you are now.
You even lie about your family of origin.

A) They include some Jews who were early converts and martyrs
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/9a68f611e84079b6

B) There were no Jews, no converts and no martyrs, only Shiah and Shaykhis:
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.religion.bahai/msg/a7add3c27355aab6

C) There were, after all!
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.religion.bahai/msg/03b415affa5c1279


- All Bad
383
2008-02-19 08:45:40 UTC
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You even lie about your family of origin.
You are the LIE embodied:
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/196a2f4f90604439/a47dad7dc88149c5?lnk=gst&q=Rod+Wicks+on+KKKholi#a47dad7dc88149c5

W
b***@gmail.com
2008-02-16 12:52:44 UTC
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Neither Husayn-Ali nor his followers had/have the guts to apologize.
He did not apologize even as he was interrogated by the Ottomans in
Palestine when his assassins took to knives and slaughtered innocent
defenceless Bayanis in cold blood.
In fact Abbas the Khanas justified it.
Such is the nature of this ugly cult.

http://www.bayanic.com/notes/assas/as01.html
http://www.bayanic.com/notes/assas/as02.html
http://www.bayanic.com/notes/assas/as03.html
http://www.bayanic.com/notes/assas/as04.html
http://www.bayanic.com/notes/assas/as05.html
http://www.bayanic.com/notes/assas/as06.html
http://www.bayanic.com/notes/assas/as07.html
http://www.bayanic.com/lib/fwd/qahir/Qahir-FWD.html
http://www.bayanic.com/notes/alleg/alleg12.html

I like to see na-Momen and his co-thinkers write up a few articles and
see if he can also justufy the killings too!

Steve
383
2008-02-17 11:36:17 UTC
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These links put up by Steve are very good, Sean. Look into them.

W
Seon Ferguson
2008-02-17 23:28:42 UTC
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These links put up by Steve are very good, Sean. Look into them.
W
I've read a few. I always thought Bahai's didn't kill there rivals like the
early Christians did but I guess I was wrong. I guess there are some Bahai's
who are as crazy as Muslim extremists (not I didn't say all Muslims just
those who kill anyone who dares criticise Islam)
383
2008-02-18 03:34:43 UTC
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Post by Seon Ferguson
I've read a few. I always thought Bahai's didn't kill there rivals like the
early Christians did but I guess I was wrong. I guess there are some Bahai's
who are as crazy as Muslim extremists (not I didn't say all Muslims just
those who kill anyone who dares criticise Islam)
You would be surprised how divergent the advertising bahaim make of
themselves versus the true reality is. Luckily the rest of the world
has begun clueing in as well.

W
Seon Ferguson
2008-02-18 07:28:44 UTC
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Post by 383
Post by Seon Ferguson
I've read a few. I always thought Bahai's didn't kill there rivals like the
early Christians did but I guess I was wrong. I guess there are some Bahai's
who are as crazy as Muslim extremists (not I didn't say all Muslims just
those who kill anyone who dares criticise Islam)
You would be surprised how divergent the advertising bahaim make of
themselves versus the true reality is. Luckily the rest of the world
has begun clueing in as well.
Yep I've learnt that we cant be sure of everything anymore, even what's in
the "official" history books.
All Bad
2008-02-18 15:15:43 UTC
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Post by Seon Ferguson
Post by 383
Post by Seon Ferguson
I've read a few. I always thought Bahai's didn't kill there rivals like the
early Christians did but I guess I was wrong. I guess there are some Bahai's
who are as crazy as Muslim extremists (not I didn't say all Muslims just
those who kill anyone who dares criticise Islam)
You would be surprised how divergent the advertising bahaim make of
themselves versus the true reality is. Luckily the rest of the world
has begun clueing in as well.
Yep I've learnt that we cant be sure of everything anymore, even what's in
the "official" history books.
Also be sure to check the claims of someone who'd even lie about his family.

At one point, Nima/WahidAzal/383 told trb that he does what he does out of
identification w/ some of his ancestors who were martyred for their faith
"I am doing all of this for my great-grandmother, Sara'i Mottahedeh.
Sara'i's
father was Mirza Yaqub Mottahedeh, one of the first Jewish Baha'i
converts..."
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/9a68f611e84079b6

At another point he decided it was inconvenient to have Jewish ancstors
converting into Baha'i and being martyred for their faith, so his ancestors
were all Shiah and Shaykhis (a Shiah school).
"Because I'm not. My ancestors were all Shi'a and Shaykhis."
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.religion.bahai/msg/a7add3c27355aab6

Then he goes back to the previous story!
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.religion.bahai/msg/03b415affa5c1279

So, consider what he tells you about the BF.

- All Bad
Seon Ferguson
2008-02-18 23:28:50 UTC
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Post by All Bad
Post by Seon Ferguson
Post by 383
Post by Seon Ferguson
I've read a few. I always thought Bahai's didn't kill there rivals like the
early Christians did but I guess I was wrong. I guess there are some Bahai's
who are as crazy as Muslim extremists (not I didn't say all Muslims just
those who kill anyone who dares criticise Islam)
You would be surprised how divergent the advertising bahaim make of
themselves versus the true reality is. Luckily the rest of the world
has begun clueing in as well.
Yep I've learnt that we cant be sure of everything anymore, even what's
in the "official" history books.
Also be sure to check the claims of someone who'd even lie about his family.
At one point, Nima/WahidAzal/383 told trb that he does what he does out of
identification w/ some of his ancestors who were martyred for their faith
"I am doing all of this for my great-grandmother, Sara'i Mottahedeh.
Sara'i's
father was Mirza Yaqub Mottahedeh, one of the first Jewish Baha'i
converts..."
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/9a68f611e84079b6
At another point he decided it was inconvenient to have Jewish ancstors
converting into Baha'i and being martyred for their faith, so his
ancestors were all Shiah and Shaykhis (a Shiah school).
"Because I'm not. My ancestors were all Shi'a and Shaykhis."
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.religion.bahai/msg/a7add3c27355aab6
Then he goes back to the previous story!
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.religion.bahai/msg/03b415affa5c1279
So, consider what he tells you about the BF.
- All Bad
I have learnt that quotes can easily be taken out of context. I'll wait for
W's explination before making up my mind.
383
2008-02-19 08:58:58 UTC
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Post by All Bad
At one point, Nima/WahidAzal/383 told trb that he does what he does out of
identification w/ some of his ancestors who were martyred for their faith
Umm, lying dipshit, where does it say these people where martyred?
Post by All Bad
So, consider what he tells you about the BF.
Yes, consider well:
http://bahai-library.org/unpubl.articles/suppression.html
**An Examination of Suppression and Distortion in 20th-Century Baha'i
Literature**
Vince Salisbury

William McElwee Miller THE BAHAI FAITH IT'S HISTORY AND TEACHINGS:
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/archives/Baha'i%20faith%20and%20Its%20Teachings%20by%20William%20McElwee%20Miller.htm

These two documents will prove who are the liars here, and it is the
all-bad, who's words should be taken with grains of salt:
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/bcd3fff3c62816ea/000fbd87c88b8d16?lnk=gst&q=Rod+Wicks+on+KKKholi#000fbd87c88b8d16

Also consider the Bahaim Technique

The BAHAIM Technique

Caution - THE BAHAI TECHNIQUE

"Slanderous Vilification" = The Baha'i Technique - Ad Hominem, Libel,
Slander, Demonize, Scapegoat, Ostracize, Shun, Banish, Backbite,
Defame, Vilify, Discredit, Smear, Revile, Suppress, Attack, Bully,
Intimidate, Threaten, Malign, Blackball, Deceive, Coerce, Silence,
Harass... etc., etc.... CAUTION NON-BAHAIS

W
Death to Haifan Bahaism
2008-02-19 09:20:23 UTC
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http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/archives/Baha'i%20faith%20and%20Its%20Teachings%20by%20William%20McElwee%20Miller.htm

PP.43-44

Professor Browne wrote to Subh-i-Azal to get his testimony as to what
became of the Bab's body, and his reply in Persian has been translated
as follows: (52)
"When the Bab was imprisoned in Chihriq he wrote to say that 'the
place of Shah Abdu'1-Azim is a good land, by reason of the proximity
of Wahid which has the same numerical equivalent as Yahya, the name of
Subh-i-Azal] for keeping'..... After the martyrdom of the Bab his body
was kept in the house of Sulayman Khan and had that Trust [the body]
conveyed to Teheran with the assistance of two believers.....I was
unwilling to keep that Trust in the precincts of Shah Abdu'1-Azim, as
graves of the dead were daily ripped up and others were interred in
them. Therefore I deposited it in a spot in the shrine of Imamzadeh
Ma'sum. Two persons had knowledge of that spot..... After the
'pretender' [Baha] had set up his pretensions he assigned certain
persons to steal the Trust, and the Trust was stolen."
According to this account, the body of the Bab was transferred from
one resting place to another, and found little rest. According to the
later Baha'i accounts, Abdu'1-Baha had the body brought to Akka in
1899, and arranged for its final interment in a beautiful mausoleum on
Mt. Carmel near Haifa in 1910. It is said that the body was laid
facing Mecca, as is the Muslim custom of burial. But who can prove
that the remains conveyed to Akka and buried on Mt. Carmel were those
of Sayyid Ali Muhammad the Bab?"

Badieh Mirati Nuri
http://www.h-net.org/~bahai/areprint/vol7/Nuri/rastin/rastin.htm

Outright states that the Body have been left unmolested as of their
last resting place and the body interred in Haifa is the body of Mirza
Bozorg Nuri.

W
All Bad
2008-02-17 13:45:41 UTC
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Post by Seon Ferguson
Post by 383
Post by Seon Ferguson
Post by 383
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23206140-2,00.html
http://www.video.news.com.au/newsinteractive/videopage/videoplayer/?C...
Will the Baha'is ever apologize to the People of the Bayan and the
Central Figures of the gnostic religion of the Bayan for the pain and
injustice they inflicted on us?
I'm not disagreeing with you but what did they do? apart from making the bab
as obsolete as John the Baptist when he clearly was a messenger from God.
They murdered prominent Babis in Baghdad, Edirne and Acre. Falsified,
whitewashed and sanitized Babi history. Falsely acquired and
monopolized Babi holy relics, texts and sacred sites. Libeled and
defamed Falsely made a business of the name and a shrine in Israel
they claim houses the final remains of the Bab - when it doesn't - and
generally lied, stole, deceived, blackballed etc.
I agree that they have falsified babi history. But only because I have a
feeling that there is more to the Bab then what the Bahia's tell me (they
compare him to John the Baptist. I think he's more like Moses) dont ask me
The Primal Point is a Manifestation of God, just like Baha'u'llah. He is
the First of the Twin Manfestations of God. The analogy of John the Baptist
is overly simplistic, and clearly suffers from Christian biases.

- All Bad
Post by Seon Ferguson
where that feeling comes from though its just like a hunch. Do they have
any evidence it houses the final remains of him or is it just a way to
earn a quick tourist buck? How did they falsely acquire Babi holly relics
and stuff? is there a site that hasn't been touched by the hafins where I
can learn more?
383
2008-02-18 03:31:39 UTC
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Post by All Bad
The Primal Point is a Manifestation of God, just like Baha'u'llah. He is
the First of the Twin Manfestations of God. The analogy of John the Baptist
is overly simplistic, and clearly suffers from Christian biases.
Mirza Husayn 'Ali Nari Mal'un'ullah is an Infestation of Dog NOT a
Manifestation of the Godhead. Baha'u'llah is a proper title for the 14
Infallibles, and in the Bayan properly belongs to the Primal Point,
the 18 Letters of the Living and the Mirror of the Point.

W
Asparagus
2008-02-16 01:36:59 UTC
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Post by 383
They murdered prominent Babis in Baghdad, Edirne and Acre. Falsified,
whitewashed and sanitized Babi history. Falsely acquired and
monopolized Babi holy relics, texts and sacred sites. Libeled and
defamed Falsely made a business of the name and a shrine in Israel
they claim houses the final remains of the Bab - when it doesn't - and
generally lied, stole, deceived, blackballed etc.
And sure your lot would have done the same if they had got the upper hand.

That's the trouble with all of you religionists - hypocrisy, arrogance,
pomposity and loadsa bullshit.
Seon Ferguson
2008-02-16 02:31:28 UTC
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Post by Asparagus
Post by 383
They murdered prominent Babis in Baghdad, Edirne and Acre. Falsified,
whitewashed and sanitized Babi history. Falsely acquired and
monopolized Babi holy relics, texts and sacred sites. Libeled and
defamed Falsely made a business of the name and a shrine in Israel
they claim houses the final remains of the Bab - when it doesn't - and
generally lied, stole, deceived, blackballed etc.
And sure your lot would have done the same if they had got the upper hand.
That's the trouble with all of you religionists - hypocrisy, arrogance,
pomposity and loadsa bullshit.
I don't know about that I have never heard of the Bab's followers causing
trouble. But I have heard that about the followers of the NSA (note I didn't
say Bahaullah because I know if someone truly and sincerely follows his
words they wont have done the things the early Bahia's have been accused of)
383
2008-02-16 03:25:43 UTC
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Post by Seon Ferguson
Post by Asparagus
Post by 383
They murdered prominent Babis in Baghdad, Edirne and Acre. Falsified,
whitewashed and sanitized Babi history. Falsely acquired and
monopolized Babi holy relics, texts and sacred sites. Libeled and
defamed Falsely made a business of the name and a shrine in Israel
they claim houses the final remains of the Bab - when it doesn't - and
generally lied, stole, deceived, blackballed etc.
And sure your lot would have done the same if they had got the upper hand.
That's the trouble with all of you religionists - hypocrisy, arrogance,
pomposity and loadsa bullshit.
I don't know about that I have never heard of the Bab's followers causing
trouble. But I have heard that about the followers of the NSA (note I didn't
say Bahaullah because I know if someone truly and sincerely follows his
words they wont have done the things the early Bahia's have been accused of)
"Baha'u'llah" aka Mirza Husayn 'Ali Nuri was a murderer.

W
Seon Ferguson
2008-02-16 04:35:00 UTC
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Post by 383
Post by Seon Ferguson
Post by Asparagus
Post by 383
They murdered prominent Babis in Baghdad, Edirne and Acre. Falsified,
whitewashed and sanitized Babi history. Falsely acquired and
monopolized Babi holy relics, texts and sacred sites. Libeled and
defamed Falsely made a business of the name and a shrine in Israel
they claim houses the final remains of the Bab - when it doesn't - and
generally lied, stole, deceived, blackballed etc.
And sure your lot would have done the same if they had got the upper hand.
That's the trouble with all of you religionists - hypocrisy, arrogance,
pomposity and loadsa bullshit.
I don't know about that I have never heard of the Bab's followers causing
trouble. But I have heard that about the followers of the NSA (note I didn't
say Bahaullah because I know if someone truly and sincerely follows his
words they wont have done the things the early Bahia's have been accused of)
"Baha'u'llah" aka Mirza Husayn 'Ali Nuri was a murderer.
I'm going to have to research that as well.
383
2008-02-16 03:25:13 UTC
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Post by Asparagus
And sure your lot would have done the same if they had got the upper hand.
That's the trouble with all of you religionists - hypocrisy, arrogance,
pomposity and loadsa bullshit.
You are a religionist then, Dermod, as clear as daylight.

W
Asparagus
2008-02-17 14:06:40 UTC
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Post by 383
Post by Asparagus
And sure your lot would have done the same if they had got the upper hand.
That's the trouble with all of you religionists - hypocrisy, arrogance,
pomposity and loadsa bullshit.
You are a religionist then, Dermod, as clear as daylight.
Let me give you the message together with a little culture (of which
attribute you have a great need): -

http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/THE-REBEL-JESUS-lyrics-Jackson-Browne/52F85AD10F6F373E48256A4D0020718B

Give particular attention to the last verse and especially the last four
lines.

I believe you can hear it all at:-

http://jackson-browne-the-rebel-jesus-mp3-download.kohit.net/_/232686
383
2008-02-18 03:29:03 UTC
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Post by Asparagus
Post by 383
Post by Asparagus
And sure your lot would have done the same if they had got the upper hand.
That's the trouble with all of you religionists - hypocrisy, arrogance,
pomposity and loadsa bullshit.
You are a religionist then, Dermod, as clear as daylight.
Let me give you the message together with a little culture (of which
attribute you have a great need): -
Bullshit but typical transparent smokescreen!

W
Viv
2008-02-13 10:40:38 UTC
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Post by 383
Will the Baha'is ever apologize to the People of the Bayan and the
Central Figures of the gnostic religion of the Bayan for the pain and
injustice they inflicted on us?
W
Nima the victim of pain and injustice eh? Yes, of course, it's all the
fault of the Baha'is that Nima's the way he is. If I thought that was
true then I would be saying we should be apologising to the world for
creating a nasty, foul-mouthed, mendacious, fundamentally dishonest
racist sexist fatasist. But I think Nima managed that all by himself -
quite an accomplishment.

V.
383
2008-02-13 11:40:47 UTC
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.... we should be apologising to the world for
creating a nasty, foul-mouthed, mendacious, fundamentally dishonest
racist sexist fatasist.
You just described your own demon founder Mirza Husayn 'Ali Nari to
the letter, especially here, Kitab-i-Badi' (the book they will never
translate for you dumb glaze-eyed Western cultists):
http://www.h-net.org/~bahai/areprint/baha/A-F/B/badi/badi.htm

You corrupt, genocidal and lying demonic cultists have as much, if not
more to, apologize to the People of the Bayan for than the white
Australians to the Stolen Generation of Aborigines in Australia.
Beginning with your demon profit, you are all thieves and lying,
deceiving parasites who have the blood of innocents on your vermin
hands, from Edirne all the way to the present:

BAHAIM Tactics & Techniques

1. As far as possible they hold back from responding
2. Then they claim no knowledge [of the given issue] by feigning
ignorance
3. After the exposer has exposed they will try to divert to secondary
and totally peripheral and irrelevent side-issues
4. The exposer is then painted as someone with an axe to grind,
biased, deluded (while they, the bahaim, still have not responded to
the main issue exposed)
5. Next they relate mental instability and insanity to the exposer
[i.e. shoot the messenger]
6. Then, the last tactic, is to wheel out several dubious personas on
the scene who claim to be neutral non-bahai observers who then begin
attacking the exposer as well as the issue exposed and supporting the
bahais and their issues as so-called non-bahais

The BAHAIM Technique

Caution - THE BAHAI TECHNIQUE

"Slanderous Vilification" = The Baha'i Technique - Ad Hominem, Libel,
Slander, Demonize, Scapegoat, Ostracize, Shun, Banish, Backbite,
Defame, Vilify, Discredit, Smear, Revile, Suppress, Attack, Bully,
Intimidate, Threaten, Malign, Blackball, Deceive, Coerce, Silence,
Harass... etc., etc.... CAUTION NON-BAHAIS
Viv
2008-02-13 13:04:29 UTC
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Nima

Thank you for your continued helpfulness in posting messages that show
everyone the accuracy of my description.

Viv.
383
2008-02-14 00:47:18 UTC
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Post by Viv
Nima
Thank you for your continued helpfulness in posting messages that show
everyone the accuracy of my description.
And thank you for your continued helpfulness in posting messages
showing irrefutably the accuracy of the Bahaim Technique as it applies
to you cultists.


Caution - THE BAHAI TECHNIQUE

"Slanderous Vilification" = The Baha'i Technique - Ad Hominem, Libel,
Slander, Demonize, Scapegoat, Ostracize, Shun, Banish, Backbite,
Defame, Vilify, Discredit, Smear, Revile, Suppress, Attack, Bully,
Intimidate, Threaten, Malign, Blackball, Deceive, Coerce, Silence,
Harass... etc., etc.... CAUTION NON-BAHAIS
383
2008-02-13 11:42:53 UTC
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Post by Viv
fatasist.
PS - What is a "fatasist"? ;-)

W
Viv
2008-02-13 13:02:37 UTC
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Post by 383
Post by Viv
fatasist.
PS - What is a "fatasist"? ;-)
W
Thank you for your helpfulness in pointing out the typo, and thus
drawing further attention to your position as fantasist.

V.
383
2008-02-14 00:49:33 UTC
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Post by Viv
Post by 383
Post by Viv
fatasist.
PS - What is a "fatasist"? ;-)
W
Thank you for your helpfulness in pointing out the typo, and thus
drawing further attention to your position as fantasist.
V.
And thank you for your continued helpfulness in posting messages
showing irrefutably the accuracy of the Bahaim Technique as it applies
to you malicious cultists as well as the fact that you are,
personally, an utter hypocrite - like your founder and all of your
other co-cultists - when criticizing peoples grammar and spelling,
Fascist.

Caution - THE BAHAI TECHNIQUE

"Slanderous Vilification" = The Baha'i Technique - Ad Hominem, Libel,
Slander, Demonize, Scapegoat, Ostracize, Shun, Banish, Backbite,
Defame, Vilify, Discredit, Smear, Revile, Suppress, Attack, Bully,
Intimidate, Threaten, Malign, Blackball, Deceive, Coerce, Silence,
Harass... etc., etc.... CAUTION NON-BAHAIS
Viv
2008-02-14 15:45:48 UTC
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" ...born into an Iranian Baha'i family resident in Australia and
had a marginal career on Talisman before resigning membership of the
Baha'i community in 1996 stating he still believed in Baha'u'llah but
did not accept the leadership of the Universal House of Justice. He
then became involved in Sufism before announcing a messianic claim for
himself and finally becoming a Babi - the religion that preceded the
Baha'i Faith in Iran. There are still a few people who regard
themselves as Babis and followers of Azal (1832-1912), who claimed to
be the true successor of the Bab and opposed Baha'u'llah. These
Azalis would however probably be somewhat bemused by [his]
idiosyncratic mix of Neo-Platonism, Kabbala and Sufism. His main
occupation now, however, seems to be inhabiting various marginal
Baha'i e-mail lists and Usenet groups and issuing vitriolic
denunciations of the Baha'i Faith as an evil "cult". At present, he
seems to be against almost everyone, Baha'i core members, marginals
and apostates. He posts 10-20 e-mails on most days."

Momen 0n Nima - a rather charitable description, leaving out Nima's
track record of lies, racism, and general vilness of language and
sentiment that would also no doubt bemuse the genuine Babis. E.g. the
very spiritual and Bayani "FUCK THE TRAITOROUS FINK DERMOD RYDER AND
HIS SPASTICK BRAT!".
383
2008-02-15 03:56:53 UTC
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Caution - THE BAHAI TECHNIQUE

"Slanderous Vilification" = The Baha'i Technique - Ad Hominem, Libel,
Slander, Demonize, Scapegoat, Ostracize, Shun, Banish, Backbite,
Defame, Vilify, Discredit, Smear, Revile, Suppress, Attack, Bully,
Intimidate, Threaten, Malign, Blackball, Deceive, Coerce, Silence,
Harass... etc., etc.... CAUTION NON-BAHAIS
Asparagus
2008-02-16 01:39:30 UTC
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And thank you for your continued helpfulness in posting messages
showing irrefutably the accuracy of the Bahaim Technique as it applies
to you malicious cultists as well as the fact that you are,
personally, an utter hypocrite - like your founder and all of your
other co-cultists - when criticizing peoples grammar and spelling,
Fascist.
Par for the course - you criticise some people's children.
383
2008-02-16 03:22:32 UTC
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Post by 383
And thank you for your continued helpfulness in posting messages
showing irrefutably the accuracy of the Bahaim Technique as it applies
to you malicious cultists as well as the fact that you are,
personally, an utter hypocrite - like your founder and all of your
other co-cultists - when criticizing peoples grammar and spelling,
Fascist.
Par for the course - you criticise some people's children.
Some people's children are a reflection of the demons who spawned
them. Obviously that comment has hurt you. Reflect on the karmic
rebound your hurt represents, and maybe you'll learn something long
time coming.

W
Asparagus
2008-02-16 04:09:04 UTC
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Post by Asparagus
Post by 383
And thank you for your continued helpfulness in posting messages
showing irrefutably the accuracy of the Bahaim Technique as it applies
to you malicious cultists as well as the fact that you are,
personally, an utter hypocrite - like your founder and all of your
other co-cultists - when criticizing peoples grammar and spelling,
Fascist.
Par for the course - you criticise some people's children.
Some people's children are a reflection of the demons who spawned
them.
Do your parents know this?
Post by 383
Obviously that comment has hurt you.
You wish!!!
Post by 383
Reflect on the karmic
rebound your hurt represents, and maybe you'll learn something long
time coming.
What hurt?
383
2008-02-16 07:04:42 UTC
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Do your parents know this?
That your spatick brat is a reflection of you, absolutely!
Post by Asparagus
Post by 383
Obviously that comment has hurt you.
You wish!!!
Why else would you bring it up?

W
Asparagus
2008-02-17 12:22:27 UTC
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Post by Asparagus
Do your parents know this?
That your spatick brat is a reflection of you, absolutely!
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Post by 383
Obviously that comment has hurt you.
You wish!!!
Why else would you bring it up?
Why would a conclusion that you are the spastick brat around here hurt me?

You certainly must be, by your criteria, a source of sorrow and shame for
the parents who spawned you.

Mercifully you are impotent to spawn more spastick brats.
383
2008-02-17 12:32:16 UTC
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Why would a conclusion that you are the spastick brat around here hurt me?
Because you are the one who physically spawns spastick brats and my
comment hit the raw nerve it was meant to hit. Therefore the reason
you keep bringing it up, Dead Weed.

W
Asparagus
2008-02-18 17:50:00 UTC
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Post by Asparagus
Why would a conclusion that you are the spastick brat around here hurt me?
Because you are the one who physically spawns spastick brats
I have nothing to do with you. Your rationale is defective.

and my
Post by 383
comment hit the raw nerve it was meant to hit.
In your dreams! I don't have raw nerves


Therefore the reason
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you keep bringing it up, Dead Weed.
You're the one who brought up the fact that you're a spastick brat. We all
note that nobody is in disagreement with that proposition.
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W
All Bad
2008-02-18 15:20:42 UTC
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Post by 383
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Do your parents know this?
That your spatick brat is a reflection of you, absolutely!
Post by Asparagus
Post by 383
Obviously that comment has hurt you.
You wish!!!
Why else would you bring it up?
Why would a conclusion that you are the spastick brat around here hurt me?
You certainly must be, by your criteria, a source of sorrow and shame for
the parents who spawned you.
Mercifully you are impotent to spawn more spastick brats.
Is "spastick" an Australian spelling, or an Irish spelling? I expect it
should be spelled "spastic" so that is probably the American spelling.
Maybe "spatick" is the Oz spelling and "spastick" is the correct spelling?

- All Bad

- All Bad
Asparagus
2008-02-18 17:51:04 UTC
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Is "spastick" an Australian spelling, or an Irish spelling?
It's Nimikin's spelling ... he can't spell properly.


I expect it
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should be spelled "spastic" so that is probably the American spelling.
Maybe "spatick" is the Oz spelling and "spastick" is the correct spelling?
- All Bad
- All Bad
Viv
2008-02-18 10:46:58 UTC
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Post by Asparagus
Par for the course - you criticise some people's children.
Some people's children are a reflection of the demons who spawned
them. Obviously that comment has hurt you. Reflect on the karmic
rebound your hurt represents, and maybe you'll learn something long
time coming.
W
Makes one wonder what Nima's parents did to be punished with a son
like him.
All Bad
2008-02-18 15:17:34 UTC
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Post by 383
Post by Asparagus
Par for the course - you criticise some people's children.
Some people's children are a reflection of the demons who spawned
them. Obviously that comment has hurt you. Reflect on the karmic
rebound your hurt represents, and maybe you'll learn something long
time coming.
W
Makes one wonder what Nima's parents did to be punished with a son
like him.
The other school of thought is that God gives folks the tests that they can
pass.

- All Bad
Asparagus
2008-02-18 15:37:36 UTC
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Post by Asparagus
Par for the course - you criticise some people's children.
Some people's children are a reflection of the demons who spawned
them. Obviously that comment has hurt you. Reflect on the karmic
rebound your hurt represents, and maybe you'll learn something long
time coming.
W
Makes one wonder what Nima's parents did to be punished with a son
like him.
The other school of thought is that God gives folks the tests that they
can pass.
In this instance he goofed up ... pretty bad!

Only a mother could love somebody like Nimikins ... and she enlisted with
the Kamikaze!
383
2008-02-19 06:14:27 UTC
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W
Makes one wonder what Nima's parents did to be punished with a son
like him.
Your curse, is their blessing!

W
Asparagus
2008-02-19 11:29:49 UTC
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Post by Viv
W
Makes one wonder what Nima's parents did to be punished with a son
like him.
Your curse, is their blessing!
That sounded more like an expression of sympathy with them for their
inevitable grief, if not despair, at the fact that they were responsible for
producing the likes of you.

Why don't you get them to trot on over here and explain it all to us?

I assure you that we will be enthralled by them as much as we are by you
...ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
383
2008-02-22 11:38:17 UTC
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Post by Asparagus
That sounded more like an expression of sympathy with them for their
inevitable grief, if not despair, at the fact that they were responsible for
producing the likes of you.
That's because you're too slow to understand what is meant here in
your fenian senility. Juice up!

W

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