Discussion:
There are only 40 Orthodox Baha'is in the world ???????
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Covenant Breaker
2009-02-06 17:28:33 UTC
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Read the comments posted by Adib M.
http://www.iranian.com/main/2009/feb/we-are-ashamed
Martin
2009-02-06 22:19:59 UTC
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In the world there are much more than 40 Orthodox Baha'is. The 40 was
the number for the believers living in the USA. There are others in
Africa, in India, in Europe and in Canada. I would guess 8000, though
an «official» statistic would always be better.
Read the comments posted by Adib M.http://www.iranian.com/main/2009/feb/we-are-ashamed
Jeffrey
2009-02-07 02:32:04 UTC
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Post by Martin
In the world there are much more than 40 Orthodox Baha'is. The 40 was
the number for the believers living in the USA. There are others in
Africa, in India, in Europe and in Canada. I would guess 8000, though
an «official» statistic would always be better.
Read the comments posted by Adib M.http://www.iranian.com/main/2009/feb/we-are-ashamed
It is true that number refers to the U.S. believers. Martin forgot the
Australian community also. But I seriously doubt the number is as much
as 8000. The fact is though that numbers do not matter. The only thing
that matters is that there is anyone at all keeping the Faith alive.

Only the heterodox Baha'is are hung up on the numbers. They are into
declarations, marketing, appeals for money, copyrights, trademarks,
building big buildings, appeals for contributions, and filing lawsuits
against their "competitors", oh and appeals for funds! The Orthodox
Baha'is are into instant, exact, and complete obedience to the
Covenant of Baha'u'llah.

Jeffrey
r***@yahoo.co.uk
2009-02-06 19:31:41 UTC
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Read the comments posted by Adib M.http://www.iranian.com/main/2009/feb/we-are-ashamed
Are you surprised?

Andrew
Ruhaniya
2009-02-07 07:19:14 UTC
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Post by r***@yahoo.co.uk
Read the comments posted by Adib M.http://www.iranian.com/main/2009/feb/we-are-ashamed
Are you surprised?
How much are you paid?

W
r***@yahoo.co.uk
2009-02-11 00:07:14 UTC
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Post by Ruhaniya
Post by r***@yahoo.co.uk
Read the comments posted by Adib M.http://www.iranian.com/main/2009/feb/we-are-ashamed
Are you surprised?
How much are you paid?
W
By whom?

Andrew
Ruhaniya
2009-02-11 03:22:40 UTC
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Post by Ruhaniya
Post by r***@yahoo.co.uk
Read the comments posted by Adib M.http://www.iranian.com/main/2009/feb/we-are-ashamed
Are you surprised?
How much are you paid?
W
By whom?
The Internet Commitee of the Haifan Bahai organization &/or
affiliates.

W

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Sovereign statesAntigua and Barbuda · Bahamas ·
Viv
2009-02-11 08:50:49 UTC
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There you are, Andrew, you have become the latest person to learn what
happens to people who disagree with the Great Fantasist.

You disagree with him? You must be part of the world-embracing
conspiracy to do him down, and paid by one of its agencies, because
he's sooooooooo important he has a conspiracy working just against him
and he's sooooooo great that he couldn't possibly say anything to be
disagreed with.

I would say congratulations on joining the club but it has such a
large and expanding membership that there's no exclisivity about it.

Viv.
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2009-02-11 09:15:12 UTC
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There you are, Andrew, you have become the latest person to learn what
happens to people who disagree with the Great Fantasist.
Correction, the Great Fantasist who has put your whole organizational
knickers in a gigiantic knot with evidence you cannot refute. That is
not a fantasist, though. That is Great Magus!

W

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Sovereign statesAntigua and Barbuda · Bahamas ·
All Bad
2009-02-11 10:56:26 UTC
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There you are, Andrew, you have become the latest person to learn what
happens to people who disagree with the Great Fantasist.
WA: Correction, the Great Fantasist who has put your whole organizational
knickers in a gigiantic knot with evidence you cannot refute. That is
not a fantasist, though. That is Great Magus!

AB: Let me break the facts down for you. As you point out below, you
assert that Andrew Turvey is Paul Hammond. You took the time to investigate
him, perhaps to _prove_ your point with evidence. Your investigation shows
his involvement with Wikipedia and he gets snippy about your stalking and
you trot out your legal opinion about the plain view facts, BUT you decline
to inform your opinion of the facts you did gather, instead, re-asserting
the charge at odds with those facts, that Tuvey is Hammond.

AB: Could you possibly bring yourself to accept the facts, W and
acknowledge you were wrong about him being Hammond?

- All Bad

WA: Andrew Turvey- new TRB Paul Hammond - is some sort of low level
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involved in attempting to start up the Wikipissita Media UK Chapter
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Sovereign
statesAfghanistan · Armenia1 · Azerbaijan1 · Bahrain · Bangladesh ·
Bhutan · Brunei · Burma2 · Cambodia · People's Republic of China ·
Cyprus1 · East Timor3 · Egypt4 · Georgia1 · India · Indonesia · Iran
·
Iraq · Israel · Japan · Jordan · Kazakhstan4 · North Korea · South
Korea · Kuwait · Kyrgyzstan · Laos · Lebanon · Malaysia · Maldives ·
Mongolia · Nepal · Oman · Pakistan · Philippines · Qatar · Russia4 ·
Saudi Arabia · Singapore · Sri Lanka · Syria · Tajikistan · Republic
of China5 · Thailand · Turkey4 · Turkmenistan · United Arab Emirates
·
Uzbekistan · Vietnam · Yemen


Dependencies,
autonomies,
other territoriesAceh · Adjara1 · Abkhazia1 · Akrotiri and Dhekelia ·
Altai · British Indian Ocean Territory · Buryatia · Christmas Island
·
Cocos (Keeling) Islands · Guangxi · Hong Kong · Inner Mongolia ·
Iraqi
Kurdistan · Jakarta · Khakassia · Macau · Nagorno-Karabakh ·
Nakhchivan · Ningxia · Northern Cyprus · Palestine (Gaza Strip · West
Bank) · Papua · Sakha · South Ossetia1 · Tibet · Tuva · West Papua ·
Xinjiang · Yogyakarta


Italics indicates an unrecognised or partially recognised country. 1
Sometimes included in Europe, depending on the border definitions. 2
Officially known as Myanmar. 3 Sometimes included in Oceania, and
also known as Timor-Leste. 4 Transcontinental country. 5 Commonly
known as Taiwan.


[show] v . d . eBahá'í Faith in Europe


Sovereign
statesAlbania · Andorra · Armenia1 · Austria · Azerbaijan2 · Belarus
·
Belgium · Bosnia and Herzegovina · Bulgaria · Croatia · Cyprus1 ·
Czech Republic · Denmark · Estonia · Finland · France · Georgia2 ·
Germany · Greece · Hungary · Iceland · Ireland · Italy · Kazakhstan3
·
Latvia · Liechtenstein · Lithuania · Luxembourg · Republic of
Macedonia · Malta · Moldova · Monaco · Montenegro · Netherlands ·
Norway · Poland · Portugal · Romania · Russia3 · San Marino · Serbia
·
Slovakia · Slovenia · Spain · Sweden · Switzerland · Turkey3 ·
Ukraine
· United Kingdom (England . Northern Ireland . Scotland . Wales)


Dependencies,
autonomies,
other territoriesAbkhazia 2 · Adjara1 · Adygea · Akrotiri and
Dhekelia
· Åland · Azores · Bashkortostan · Catalonia · Chechnya · Chuvashia ·
Crimea · Dagestan · Faroe Islands · Gagauzia · Gibraltar · Guernsey ·
Ingushetia · Jan Mayen · Jersey · Kabardino-Balkaria · Kalmykia ·
Karachay-Cherkessia · Republic of Karelia · Komi Republic · Kosovo ·
Isle of Man · Mari El · Mordovia · Nagorno-Karabakh1 · Nakhchivan1 ·
North Ossetia-Alania · Northern Cyprus1 · South Ossetia 2 · Svalbard
·
Tatarstan · Transnistria · Udmurtia · Vojvodina


Italics indicates an unrecognised or partially recognised country. 1
Entirely in Asia, but historically considered European. 2 Partially
or entirely in Asia, depending on the border definitions. 3 Has the
majority of its territory in Asia.


[show] v . d . eBahá'í Faith in Africa


Sovereign statesAlgeria · Angola · Benin · Botswana · Burkina Faso ·
Burundi · Cameroon · Cape Verde · Central African Republic · Chad ·
Comoros · Democratic Republic of the Congo · Republic of the Congo ·
Côte d'Ivoire (Ivory Coast) · Djibouti · Egypt1 · Equatorial Guinea ·
Eritrea · Ethiopia · Gabon · The Gambia · Ghana · Guinea · Guinea-
Bissau · Kenya · Lesotho · Liberia · Libya · Madagascar · Malawi ·
Mali · Mauritania · Mauritius · Morocco · Mozambique · Namibia ·
Niger
· Nigeria · Rwanda · São Tomé and Príncipe · Senegal · Seychelles ·
Sierra Leone · Somalia · South Africa · Sudan · Swaziland · Tanzania
·
Togo · Tunisia · Uganda · Zambia · Zimbabwe


Dependencies,
autonomies,
other territoriesCanary Islands / Ceuta / Melilla (Spain) · Madeira
(Portugal) · Mayotte / Réunion (France) · Puntland · St. Helena (UK)
·
Socotra (Yemen) · Somaliland · Southern Sudan · Western Sahara ·
Zanzibar (Tanzania)


Italics indicate an unrecognised or partially recognised country. 1
Transcontinental country.


[show] v . d . eBahá'í Faith in South America


Sovereign statesArgentina · Bolivia · Brazil · Chile · Colombia ·
Ecuador · Guyana · Panama1 · Paraguay · Peru · Suriname · Trinidad
and
Tobago1 · Uruguay · Venezuela


DependenciesAruba1 / Netherlands Antilles1 (Netherlands) · Falkland
Islands / South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands (UK) 2 /
French
Guiana (France)


1 Territories also in or commonly reckoned elsewhere in the Americas
(North America and/or Central America). 2 Territories also in or
commonly reckoned to be in Antarctica.


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PaulHammond
2009-02-11 17:03:53 UTC
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Post by Viv
There you are, Andrew, you have become the latest person to learn what
happens to people who disagree with the Great Fantasist.
Correction, the Great Fantasist who has put your whole organizational
knickers in a gigiantic knot with evidence you cannot refute. That is
not a fantasist, though. That is Great Magus!
W
Well, it IS impossible to refute evidence that exists only and wholly
within your head - so I guess this is a true statement. But only
vacously.
Death to Haifan Bahaism
2009-02-13 05:55:12 UTC
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Post by Ruhaniya
Post by Viv
There you are, Andrew, you have become the latest person to learn what
happens to people who disagree with the Great Fantasist.
Correction, the Great Fantasist who has put your whole organizational
knickers in a gigiantic knot with evidence you cannot refute. That is
not a fantasist, though. That is Great Magus!
W
Well, it IS impossible to refute evidence that exists only and wholly
within your head - so I guess this is a true statement.  
Funny how such evidence in my head always has a way of materializing
in real time in the real world, like this, for example:

"First, I do believe, based on Hammond's refusal to say why he is
interested in the Baha'i Faith and his frequent defense of the AO,
that he is probably working for them."

-- Eric Stetson, September 2003
PaulHammond
2009-02-13 23:51:34 UTC
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Post by Ruhaniya
Post by Viv
There you are, Andrew, you have become the latest person to learn what
happens to people who disagree with the Great Fantasist.
Correction, the Great Fantasist who has put your whole organizational
knickers in a gigiantic knot with evidence you cannot refute. That is
not a fantasist, though. That is Great Magus!
W
Well, it IS impossible to refute evidence that exists only and wholly
within your head - so I guess this is a true statement.  
Funny how such evidence in my head always has a way of materializing
"First, I do believe, based on Hammond's refusal to say why he is
interested in the Baha'i Faith and his frequent defense of the AO,
that he is probably working for them."
-- Eric Stetson, September 2003
This is someone's outdated opinion that he since changed, not
evidence. What a surprise that you can't tell the difference!

Oh, and speaking of Larry Rowe, who was it who was flaming Mr Stetson
recently, pray tell?
Ruhaniya
2009-02-14 02:43:51 UTC
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Oh, and speaking of Larry Rowe, who was it who was flaming Mr Stetson
recently, pray tell?
I was. What is your point again, hack?
m***@gmail.com
2009-02-14 05:18:07 UTC
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Post by Ruhaniya
Post by Viv
There you are, Andrew, you have become the latest person to learn what
happens to people who disagree with the Great Fantasist.
Correction, the Great Fantasist who has put your whole organizational
knickers in a gigiantic knot with evidence you cannot refute. That is
not a fantasist, though. That is Great Magus!
W
Well, it IS impossible to refute evidence that exists only and wholly
within your head - so I guess this is a true statement.  
Funny how such evidence in my head always has a way of materializing
"First, I do believe, based on Hammond's refusal to say why he is
interested in the Baha'i Faith and his frequent defense of the AO,
that he is probably working for them."
-- Eric Stetson, September 2003
This is someone's outdated opinion that he since changed, not
evidence.  What a surprise that you can't tell the difference!
Oh, and speaking of Larry Rowe, who was it who was flaming Mr Stetson
recently, pray tell?
This makes no difference to Eric Stetson's belief regarding you and
your role. It just annoys you that Wahid is most certainly not the
only one who holds such an opinion about you.
All Bad
2009-02-14 13:25:29 UTC
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Post by Death to Haifan Bahaism
Funny how such evidence in my head always has a way of materializing
"First, I do believe, based on Hammond's refusal to say why he is
interested in the Baha'i Faith and his frequent defense of the AO,
that he is probably working for them."
-- Eric Stetson, September 2003
This is someone's outdated opinion that he since changed, not
evidence. What a surprise that you can't tell the difference!
Oh, and speaking of Larry Rowe, who was it who was flaming Mr Stetson
recently, pray tell?
MIA1: This makes no difference to Eric Stetson's belief regarding you and
your role. It just annoys you that Wahid is most certainly not the
only one who holds such an opinion about you.

AB: Paul is widely known to be an agnostic. What is not so clear is
whether you have been duped by W. Azal's reurgiposting of this, or whether
you are intending to advance the lie by asserting that this is a current
view.

- All Bad
PaulHammond
2009-02-14 20:30:44 UTC
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Post by Ruhaniya
Post by Viv
There you are, Andrew, you have become the latest person to learn what
happens to people who disagree with the Great Fantasist.
Correction, the Great Fantasist who has put your whole organizational
knickers in a gigiantic knot with evidence you cannot refute. That is
not a fantasist, though. That is Great Magus!
W
Well, it IS impossible to refute evidence that exists only and wholly
within your head - so I guess this is a true statement.  
Funny how such evidence in my head always has a way of materializing
"First, I do believe, based on Hammond's refusal to say why he is
interested in the Baha'i Faith and his frequent defense of the AO,
that he is probably working for them."
-- Eric Stetson, September 2003
This is someone's outdated opinion that he since changed, not
evidence.  What a surprise that you can't tell the difference!
Oh, and speaking of Larry Rowe, who was it who was flaming Mr Stetson
recently, pray tell?
This makes no difference to Eric Stetson's belief regarding you and
your role. It just annoys you that Wahid is most certainly not the
only one who holds such an opinion about you.-
Why don't you ask Eric yourself? He doesn't believe what is quoted in
that old email to Nima.

And of course, Nima doesn't know what Eric was saying to me at the
same time.

Nima has form on this - he ran a big long thread about how Dermot
Ryder, another long-time poster to this group, agreed with him that I
was an evil bastard. He carried on doing this until Dermod arrived
here in person to blow Nima's argument out of the water.

Nima has since occupied himself in saying horrible things about
Dermod, and his disabled daughter, while accusing Dermot, an outspoken
opponent of the Baha'i AO, of actually being (yawn) another "agent of
the IT committee"

I get on well with Eric. Yes, Nima IS annoying - I'm glad you
noticed. Good, too, to see him putting the SourceWatch rules on bias
and objectivity to such good use. He'll be banned from there by July,
I'd say.
PaulHammond
2009-02-14 20:32:01 UTC
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Post by Ruhaniya
Post by Viv
There you are, Andrew, you have become the latest person to learn what
happens to people who disagree with the Great Fantasist.
Correction, the Great Fantasist who has put your whole organizational
knickers in a gigiantic knot with evidence you cannot refute. That is
not a fantasist, though. That is Great Magus!
W
Well, it IS impossible to refute evidence that exists only and wholly
within your head - so I guess this is a true statement.  
Funny how such evidence in my head always has a way of materializing
"First, I do believe, based on Hammond's refusal to say why he is
interested in the Baha'i Faith and his frequent defense of the AO,
that he is probably working for them."
-- Eric Stetson, September 2003
This is someone's outdated opinion that he since changed, not
evidence.  What a surprise that you can't tell the difference!
Oh, and speaking of Larry Rowe, who was it who was flaming Mr Stetson
recently, pray tell?
This makes no difference to Eric Stetson's belief regarding you and
your role. It just annoys you that Wahid is most certainly not the
only one who holds such an opinion about you.- Hide quoted text -
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There's another point to this. Nima was advancing Eric's opinion as
"evidence".

Are you another who can't tell the difference between facts and
opinion, May?

PaulHammond
2009-02-11 17:01:01 UTC
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Read the comments posted by Adib M.http://www.iranian.com/main/2009/feb/we-are-ashamed
Are you surprised?
How much are you paid?
W
Do you dislike Andrew because he asks you to justify your statements
by evidence, or because he's talking about the small number of
Orthodox Bahais and you feel like helping them out today?
r***@yahoo.co.uk
2009-02-12 18:15:21 UTC
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Post by Ruhaniya
Post by r***@yahoo.co.uk
Read the comments posted by Adib M.http://www.iranian.com/main/2009/feb/we-are-ashamed
Are you surprised?
How much are you paid?
W
Do you dislike Andrew because he asks you to justify your statements
by evidence, or because he's talking about the small number of
Orthodox Bahais and you feel like helping them out today?
Wahid dislikes me? Why?

We've had a few disagreements which have included (on his side) a few
personal attacks and stalking, but he's also shown the odd flash of
reasonableness from time to time.

Andrew.
Death to Haifan Bahaism
2009-02-13 05:49:18 UTC
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Post by Ruhaniya
Post by r***@yahoo.co.uk
Read the comments posted by Adib M.http://www.iranian.com/main/2009/feb/we-are-ashamed
Are you surprised?
How much are you paid?
W
Do you dislike Andrew because he asks you to justify your statements
by evidence,
Nope. I dislike Andrew because he exudes 'hack' and 'Paul Andrew
Hammond'.

"First, I do believe, based on Hammond's refusal to say why he is
interested in the Baha'i Faith and his frequent defense of the AO,
that he is probably working for them."

-- Eric Stetson, September 2003
Ruhaniya
2009-02-07 08:01:54 UTC
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Read the comments posted by Adib M.http://www.iranian.com/main/2009/feb/we-are-ashamed
What is especially interesting to me is that whenever someone starts
pointing out the glaring discrepancies and the Bahaim propaganda gets
revealed for what it is, one of these fools comes along and accuses
the guy or gal doing the pointing out of being me! And they say I have
no credibility! Ha!!!

W
PaulHammond
2009-02-11 17:01:50 UTC
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Post by Ruhaniya
Read the comments posted by Adib M.http://www.iranian.com/main/2009/feb/we-are-ashamed
What is especially interesting to me is that whenever someone starts
pointing out the glaring discrepancies and the Bahaim propaganda gets
revealed for what it is, one of these fools comes along and accuses
the guy or gal doing the pointing out of being me! And they say I have
no credibility! Ha!!!
W
Nice to see you've equipped yourself with a whole new name, Dubya,
since the last time I posted to this group!
Death to Haifan Bahaism
2009-02-13 05:52:58 UTC
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Nice to see you've equipped yourself with a whole new name, Dubya,
That wouldn't be anything like your whole new drama in publically
sucking up to Larry Rowe after you flamed him in the most shameless
manner here in 2006, would it?

Equipping with whole new dramas is what you are and what the British
establishment you serve is all about, limey ponce.

"First, I do believe, based on Hammond's refusal to say why he is
interested in the Baha'i Faith and his frequent defense of the AO,
that he is probably working for them."

-- Eric Stetson, September 2003

Say hello to M Morris for me.

W
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