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The dangerous illogicality & doublespeak of Abbas Effendi
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NUR
2009-10-06 10:48:42 UTC
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http://covenantstudy.org/questions/disagreeing-with-a-decision/

If they agree upon a subject, even though it be wrong, it is better
than to disagree and be in the right, for this difference will produce
the demolition of the divine foundation. Though one of the parties may
be in the right and they disagree, that will be the cause of a
thousand wrongs, but if they agree and both parties are in the wrong,
as it is in unity, the truth will be revealed and the wrong made
right.
‘Abdu’l-Baha cited in letter of the Universal House of Justice,1988
Dec 29, Individual Rights and Freedoms, paragraph 29

Such are the locutions upon which totalitarian cultures and systems
are built upon and whereby mass brutalities and genocides are
justified!

DEATH TO BAHAISM!
diamondsouled
2009-10-09 22:51:09 UTC
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Interestingly I came across this same quote today when I was searching
for the well known and widely circulated story about Mirza Husayn Ali
(alias Baha'u'llah) saying to followers of his from 'major' Baha'i
schools that it was OK both to believe that he was the Supreme
Manifestation of God or that he was God himself:

It was perhaps owing to this inadequacy that, at one stage during the
ministry of Bahá'u'lláh, there were two major schools of thought among
the believers concerning His station. Some believed Him to be the
Supreme Manifestation of God, while others went further than this.
When Bahá'u'lláh was asked about His station, He confirmed that as
long as individuals were sincere in their beliefs, both views were
right, but if they argued among themselves or tried to convert each
other, both were wrong. This indicates that man because of his finite
mind will never be able to understand the true station of the
Manifestation of God. The criteria are sincerity and faith. Knowing
man's limitations, God accepts from him what he is able to achieve.

(Adib Taherzadeh, The Revelation of Baha'u'llah v 1, p. 303)

Of course they have medication today to cure those who start believing
that they are literally god incarnate.

Cheers

Larry Rowe
NUR
2009-10-09 23:21:06 UTC
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Unqualified incarnationism (as opposed to emanationism) is the single
most pernicious doctrine ever devised. It is literally a spiritual
prison for the mind.
Post by diamondsouled
Interestingly I came across this same quote today when I was searching
for the well known and widely circulated story about Mirza Husayn Ali
(alias Baha'u'llah) saying to followers of his from 'major' Baha'i
schools that it was OK both to believe that he was the Supreme
It was perhaps owing to this inadequacy that, at one stage during the
ministry of Bahá'u'lláh, there were two major schools of thought among
the believers concerning His station. Some believed Him to be the
Supreme Manifestation of God, while others went further than this.
When Bahá'u'lláh was asked about His station, He confirmed that as
long as individuals were sincere in their beliefs, both views were
right, but if they argued among themselves or tried to convert each
other, both were wrong. This indicates that man because of his finite
mind will never be able to understand the true station of the
Manifestation of God. The criteria are sincerity and faith. Knowing
man's limitations, God accepts from him what he is able to achieve.
(Adib Taherzadeh, The Revelation of Baha'u'llah v 1, p. 303)
Of course they have medication today to cure those who start believing
that they are literally god incarnate.
Cheers
Larry Rowe
diamondsouled
2009-10-09 23:42:35 UTC
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Incarnationism is the polar opposite of panentheism. It is only a mind
fully in the grips of it's ego that can fall for the delusion of
incarnationism. Once ego has been transcended it is quite easy to see
that God is that Circle which has It's Centre everywhere. The Tat Svam
Asi insight.

Cheers

Larry Rowe

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