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***THE AFTERLIFE****What is it like? Three Views: Evangelical, Mormon, Daheshist
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Darrick
2008-03-01 05:53:32 UTC
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Evangelicalism teaches that anyone who is not a "Christian" (i.e. an
Evangelical Christian like them) will burn in Hell for all
eternity...crying and screaming for mercy but receiving none. This
applies to all who have heard the Gospel (as they interpret it), and
all the billions who never had the opportunity to hear the Gospel.

Evangelicalism teaches that "Heaven" consists of a Celestial Choir of
sexless genderless angels that sing songs of praise to God and the
Lamb for all eternity. Heaven consists of one song after another, for
all eternity, with the only other activity being to occassionally
gaze
between their feet and see the Damned burning and crying for mercy,
but receiving none.


Mormonism teaches that "Hell" consists of being denied Godhood,
which,
for the Mormon male, means and eternity as a sexless Angel serving
the
Exalted. For Mormon women it is the same, although to their minds it
means being denied to be with one's lovedones for all eternity.


Mormonism teaches that "Heaven" consists of becoming a God, Goddess,
or sexless Angel for all eternity. The highest Heaven, the Celestial
Kingdom, is where men and women become Gods/Goddesses; have sex and
children for all eternity, be with their loved ones (also Exalted),
and to create and rule over planets. Only faithful Members of the
Church will become Exalted (Gods/Goddesses); all others will become
sexless Servant Angels for all eternity.


Now we come to Daheshism.


Daheshism was founed in 1942 by "Dr. Dahesh", the miracle-working
Prophet of Lebanon. Dr. Dahesh performed thousands of supernatural
miracles.


Daheshism believes that "Hell" consists of life on material planets,
such as Earth. Earth is the highest type of Hell planet. There are
lower types, much lower types.


Dahesh taught that "Hell-Fire" as mentioned in the Bible and Qu'ran
refers to life on Material Planets, such as Earth, where the Sun
"burns" and wares-out our skins.


Hell is where our skin is "burned" by sunlight, as on this planet. On
the Paradise planets, the Sun does not burn the skin, because the
skin
is not made of 90% water, but of other materials that are not burned
by sunlight.


Mormons believe that the Afterlife consists of becoming Gods or
Angels: Gods will be married to one or more Goddess wives, and will
have sex forever, and children, and create worlds, forever. Angels
will be sexless servants.


Daheshism teaches that there are multiple levels of Hell-planets and
Paradise planets. On the lower Paradise planets, sex still exists. On
the higher Paradise planets, there is greater bliss, but no "sex",
but
the souls of men and women are joined into one Being. They become
literally "one flesh".


Dahesh taught that Adam and Eve were originally one "one being" who,
because of sin on a Paradise would, "fell" into this world as two
separate beings; thus the meaning that Eve was taken from the
"side" (the Hebrew says "side" not "rib") of Adam. Adam existed on
the
higher Paradise planet as One Being, Eve was the "soul" of Adam.
Because of His desire to enter the Presence of God, He "fell" to
earth
as two separate beings, as a male and female paternal twin, born of a
woman.


Mormons are told today that Joseph Smith preached against
reincarnation. That is not true, but another "rewriting" of Mormon
history. Joseph Lee Robinson, a close friend of Joseph Smith, and
Eliza Snow, a plural wife of Joseph Smith, both claimed that Joseph
Smith taught them "multiple mortal probations" which is another term
for reincarnation. Many early Mormons believed in the "baby
resurrection" (that we resurrect as a baby, born of another woman),
but this is suppressed, and one major reason why the journals of
early
Mormon pioneers are heavily restricted and forbidden to be read by
all
but paid Church historians who must make promises NOT to publish
"sensitive" items they find.


The leaders of the Church engage in the supression of documents in
order to "protect" Members from being "confused". If Members knew
that
the early Mormon pioneers believed in the "Baby Resurrection" that
would "confuse" them, and that would not be good. If Members inquire
to the History Dept about "controversial subjects" such as the "Baby
Resurrection", "Adam-God", etc., the Office of the First Presidency
is
notified, and their bishop is contacted and told to "counsel" (order)
them to stop asking such questions. If they ask again, they are
threatened with a Church Court from "disobeying the counsel of their
priesthood leaders". Whoever controls the present....controls the
past. Whoever controls the past, controls the future.


Joseph Smith's Revelations came from two sources In the Book of
Revelations, chapter 5, we read John's description of the "24 Elders"
that surround the Throne of God. These "24 Elders" wearing crowns are
the 24 incarnations of the Christ-Spirit; beginning with Jesus in the
first century, and continuing, one per century, until the 24th
century.


Dr. Dahesh was the reincarnation of Jesus Christ, for the 20th
century. He performed thousands of supernatural miracles. He healed
the sick, raised the dead, caused the blind to see, the lame to walk,
turned water into wine, walked upon water, made inanimate objects
animated, and hundreds of other miracles.


Evangelicals believe that if one is a member of the Mormon Church,
and
dies, they will burn in Hell for all eternity, eternal torture,
screaming and crying with no mercy. The Evangelical expects, as his
reward in Heaven, to be able to look down upon the damned crying and
screaming forever and ever, as the Christian sings songs of praise
for
all eternity.


Mormons believe they must be active Members of the Church all their
lives in order to become "Gods". This consists of going to meetings,
attending the temple, paying tithes and offerings, and obeying their
leaders without question. Mormons have no fear of Hell, most believe
"there is no Hell"; even thought the Book of Mormon teaches that the
Devil inspired men to say, "There is no Hell".


Dahesh taught that it does not matter what church or religion we
belong to, that we shall be judged by our own thoughts/words/deeds.
The more good we do, the greater are reward. The more evil we do, the
greater are punishment, and the same scale is applied to all men and
women equally, regardless of what religion we belong to, or even if
we
espouse religion at all; the Atheist who does more good than an
active
endowed Mormon, we will receive the greater reward.


Dahesh taught that paying money to build beautiful temples and
churches will NOT be counted as "good". Attending meetings will NOT
be
counted as "good". What will be counted as "good" is helping the
poor,
doing good to others; not just our loved ones.


The depictions of life upon the Paradise worlds and the lower Hell
worlds are given in detail in the books of Dr. Dahesh; all of whom
are
in Arabic and have not yet been translated into English.


Between this life and the next life is the Spirit-World. There are
detailed depictions of the Spirit-World in the writings of the
Spiritist Mediums and the books by Allan Kardec, the codifier of
Spiritism. Many of these books are available in English and are sold
by the "Spiritist Association for Books" online.


Dahesh: The Reincarnation of Jesus Christ
http://www.angelfire.com/mo3/dr.dahesh/


Joseph Smith and Reincarnation
http://www.angelfire.com/mo3/dr.dahesh/Reincarnation.html
The Wizard
2008-03-01 13:01:47 UTC
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that
the afterlife has two possible outcomes

1) the heavenly place of all pleasurable dreams
2) some "problem" resolution, THEN, the heaven

has nothing to do with "God", there is no God, does have something to do
with soles capable of resolving "problems", if the 2nd scenario needs be
--
http://www.dalekelly.name/
The Dark Lord
2008-03-01 17:55:07 UTC
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Post by The Wizard
that
the afterlife has two possible outcomes
1) the heavenly place of all pleasurable dreams
2) some "problem" resolution, THEN, the heaven
has nothing to do with "God", there is no God, does have something to do
with soles capable of resolving "problems", if the 2nd scenario needs be
--http://www.dalekelly.name/
Sounds like an LRH wannabe.
d***@gmail.com
2008-03-01 18:38:30 UTC
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Post by The Wizard
that
the afterlife has two possible outcomes
1) the heavenly place of all pleasurable dreams
2) some "problem" resolution, THEN, the heaven
has nothing to do with "God", there is no God, does have something to do
with soles capable of resolving "problems", if the 2nd scenario needs be
--http://www.dalekelly.name/
Third option:

There is no afterlife and you're wasting the only life you actually
get on this type of stupid bullshit.
Dixe Hollins
2008-03-01 21:40:23 UTC
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Darrick, at 1500 hours local you received baptism by proxy at the
provo temple of the church of jesus christ of latter day saints.

To You
2008-03-01 14:51:26 UTC
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Now, now, Darrick Evenson, it would be useful, if you reduce your
enthusiasm to stating rather the facts about other religions and people,
as well as the FACTS about Dr. Dahesh, or "Mr. Miracle" as he would be
called in English.

Facts are very few and between in your writing, posted here, now.

I will comment in due course.

KNT hrp&p

Copyright 2007 by KNT hrp&p
Copyright Conditions as usual

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Evangelicalism teaches that anyone who is not a "Christian" (i.e. an
Evangelical Christian like them) will burn in Hell for all
eternity...crying and screaming for mercy but receiving none. This applies
to all who have heard the Gospel (as they interpret it), and all the
billions who never had the opportunity to hear the Gospel.
Evangelicalism teaches that "Heaven" consists of a Celestial Choir of
sexless genderless angels that sing songs of praise to God and the Lamb
for all eternity. Heaven consists of one song after another, for all
eternity, with the only other activity being to occassionally gaze
between their feet and see the Damned burning and crying for mercy, but
receiving none.
Mormonism teaches that "Hell" consists of being denied Godhood, which,
for the Mormon male, means and eternity as a sexless Angel serving the
Exalted. For Mormon women it is the same, although to their minds it means
being denied to be with one's lovedones for all eternity.
Mormonism teaches that "Heaven" consists of becoming a God, Goddess, or
sexless Angel for all eternity. The highest Heaven, the Celestial Kingdom,
is where men and women become Gods/Goddesses; have sex and children for
all eternity, be with their loved ones (also Exalted), and to create and
rule over planets. Only faithful Members of the Church will become Exalted
(Gods/Goddesses); all others will become sexless Servant Angels for all
eternity.
Now we come to Daheshism.
Daheshism was founed in 1942 by "Dr. Dahesh", the miracle-working Prophet
of Lebanon. Dr. Dahesh performed thousands of supernatural miracles.
Daheshism believes that "Hell" consists of life on material planets, such
as Earth. Earth is the highest type of Hell planet. There are lower types,
much lower types.
Dahesh taught that "Hell-Fire" as mentioned in the Bible and Qu'ran refers
to life on Material Planets, such as Earth, where the Sun "burns" and
wares-out our skins.
Hell is where our skin is "burned" by sunlight, as on this planet. On the
Paradise planets, the Sun does not burn the skin, because the skin
is not made of 90% water, but of other materials that are not burned by
sunlight.
Gods will be married to one or more Goddess wives, and will have sex
forever, and children, and create worlds, forever. Angels will be sexless
servants.
Daheshism teaches that there are multiple levels of Hell-planets and
Paradise planets. On the lower Paradise planets, sex still exists. On the
higher Paradise planets, there is greater bliss, but no "sex", but
the souls of men and women are joined into one Being. They become
literally "one flesh".
Dahesh taught that Adam and Eve were originally one "one being" who,
because of sin on a Paradise would, "fell" into this world as two separate
beings; thus the meaning that Eve was taken from the "side" (the Hebrew
says "side" not "rib") of Adam. Adam existed on the
higher Paradise planet as One Being, Eve was the "soul" of Adam. Because
of His desire to enter the Presence of God, He "fell" to earth
as two separate beings, as a male and female paternal twin, born of a
woman.
Mormons are told today that Joseph Smith preached against reincarnation.
That is not true, but another "rewriting" of Mormon history. Joseph Lee
Robinson, a close friend of Joseph Smith, and Eliza Snow, a plural wife of
Joseph Smith, both claimed that Joseph Smith taught them "multiple mortal
probations" which is another term for reincarnation. Many early Mormons
believed in the "baby resurrection" (that we resurrect as a baby, born of
another woman), but this is suppressed, and one major reason why the
journals of early
Mormon pioneers are heavily restricted and forbidden to be read by all
but paid Church historians who must make promises NOT to publish
"sensitive" items they find.
The leaders of the Church engage in the supression of documents in order
to "protect" Members from being "confused". If Members knew that
the early Mormon pioneers believed in the "Baby Resurrection" that would
"confuse" them, and that would not be good. If Members inquire to the
History Dept about "controversial subjects" such as the "Baby
Resurrection", "Adam-God", etc., the Office of the First Presidency is
notified, and their bishop is contacted and told to "counsel" (order) them
to stop asking such questions. If they ask again, they are threatened with
a Church Court from "disobeying the counsel of their priesthood leaders".
Whoever controls the present....controls the past. Whoever controls the
past, controls the future.
Joseph Smith's Revelations came from two sources In the Book of
Revelations, chapter 5, we read John's description of the "24 Elders" that
surround the Throne of God. These "24 Elders" wearing crowns are the 24
incarnations of the Christ-Spirit; beginning with Jesus in the first
century, and continuing, one per century, until the 24th century.
Dr. Dahesh was the reincarnation of Jesus Christ, for the 20th century. He
performed thousands of supernatural miracles. He healed the sick, raised
the dead, caused the blind to see, the lame to walk, turned water into
wine, walked upon water, made inanimate objects animated, and hundreds of
other miracles.
Evangelicals believe that if one is a member of the Mormon Church, and
dies, they will burn in Hell for all eternity, eternal torture, screaming
and crying with no mercy. The Evangelical expects, as his reward in
Heaven, to be able to look down upon the damned crying and screaming
forever and ever, as the Christian sings songs of praise for
all eternity.
Mormons believe they must be active Members of the Church all their lives
in order to become "Gods". This consists of going to meetings, attending
the temple, paying tithes and offerings, and obeying their leaders without
question. Mormons have no fear of Hell, most believe "there is no Hell";
even thought the Book of Mormon teaches that the Devil inspired men to
say, "There is no Hell".
Dahesh taught that it does not matter what church or religion we belong
to, that we shall be judged by our own thoughts/words/deeds. The more good
we do, the greater are reward. The more evil we do, the greater are
punishment, and the same scale is applied to all men and women equally,
regardless of what religion we belong to, or even if we
espouse religion at all; the Atheist who does more good than an active
endowed Mormon, we will receive the greater reward.
Dahesh taught that paying money to build beautiful temples and churches
will NOT be counted as "good". Attending meetings will NOT be
counted as "good". What will be counted as "good" is helping the poor,
doing good to others; not just our loved ones.
The depictions of life upon the Paradise worlds and the lower Hell worlds
are given in detail in the books of Dr. Dahesh; all of whom are
in Arabic and have not yet been translated into English.
Between this life and the next life is the Spirit-World. There are
detailed depictions of the Spirit-World in the writings of the Spiritist
Mediums and the books by Allan Kardec, the codifier of Spiritism. Many of
these books are available in English and are sold by the "Spiritist
Association for Books" online.
Dahesh: The Reincarnation of Jesus Christ
http://www.angelfire.com/mo3/dr.dahesh/
Joseph Smith and Reincarnation
http://www.angelfire.com/mo3/dr.dahesh/Reincarnation.html
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