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More phony charges from Iran
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seon
2009-08-10 05:13:10 UTC
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Why does Iran charge so many innocent people with spying? Its just another
phony charge.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ml_iraq_missing_americans

SULAIMANIYAH, Iraq - Iran state TV confirmed Saturday that it has detained
three Americans who crossed the border from northern Iraq, saying they
failed to heed warnings from Iranian guards. Kurdish officials from the
self-ruled region in northern Iraq said the three - two men and a woman -
were tourists who had mistakenly crossed into Iranian territory Friday while
hiking in a mountainous area near the resort town of Ahmed Awaa.

"The Iranians said they have arrested them because they entered their land
without legal permission," said Qubad Talabani, the Kurdish regional
government's envoy to Washington.

Iran's state owned Arabic-language al-Alam TV station cited a "well-informed
source" in the Interior Ministry that the three Americans were detained
Friday after crossing into Iran's Kurdistan province.

The report said the Americans were arrested after they did not heed warnings
from Iranian border guards.

State Department spokesman Robert Wood said Saturday that Washington had
asked the Swiss, who represent U.S. interests in Tehran, "to confirm these
reports with Iranian authorities and, if true, to seek consular access" to
the detained Americans.

The detentions were the latest irritant in relations between Iran and the
United States, which have had no diplomatic ties since 1979 when militant
students stormed the U.S Embassy in Tehran and took Americans there hostage
for 444 days. The two countries also are locked in a bitter dispute over
Tehran's nuclear program.

They also came at a sensitive time for the Shiite-dominated Iraqi government
as it seeks to balance delicate ties between its U.S. and Iranian allies.
Iraqi security forces recently staged a deadly raid on a camp housing an
Iranian opposition group that was protected by the American military for
years. The raid was applauded by Tehran.

Kurds occupy an area that sprawls across southwestern Turkey, northern Iraq
and eastern Iran. The borders are mountainous and not clearly marked, making
them popular smuggling routes for centuries.

Iraq's Kurdish region has been relatively free of the violence that plagues
the rest of Iraq. Foreigners often feel freer to move around without
security guards in the area, and it's relatively easy to enter the region
from Turkey, particularly by plane. The Kurdish government generally grants
visitors visas valid for one week when they arrive at the airport.

The ethnic minority gained autonomy after rising up against Saddam Hussein
in 1991, and the region was protected from his forces by a U.S.-British
no-fly zone until Saddam's fall after the 2003 U.S. invasion.

The three Americans had traveled with a companion to Turkey, then entered
the Kurdish region Tuesday through the border crossing at Zakho and traveled
to Sulaimaniyah, according to the Kurdish regional government. On Thursday,
the three took a taxi to Ahmed Awaa, it added.

The regional government's statement said the three went astray during an
excursion and were detained by Iranian authorities at the border at about
1:30 p.m. Friday.

"After walking around the area and hiking the mountain, they lost their way
due to their lack of familiarity with the location, and entered Iranian
territory," it said, pledging to work with U.S. and Iranian officials to
find a solution.

The three were last heard from after they contacted a friend saying they had
entered Iran by mistake and troops had surrounded them, a Kurdish security
official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because he wasn't
authorized to release the information.

The official said the account came from the fourth member of their group who
was feeling sick and had stayed behind in Sulaimaniyah, 160 miles (260
kilometers) northeast of Baghdad.

The Iranian state TV report claimed the four Americans were together when
they crossed the border, but "only one returned (to Iraq), while the three
were arrested."

The discrepancy could not immediately be reconciled.

The area where the three disappeared is a popular hiking destination known
for a picturesque waterfall and rocky scenery as well as a thick growth of
fruit and nut trees. The official said camping equipment and two backpacks
apparently belonging to the Americans were found in the area and it seemed
they were hiking above the waterfall when they accidentally crossed the
border.

Kurdish officials said U.S. helicopters and Humvees deployed to the nearby
city of Halabja to search for the Americans after they were reported missing
on Friday but left after it was determined they had been seized by the
Iranians.

In March 2007, Iranian forces captured 15 British service members as they
carried out a boarding operation in two inflatable boats launched from the
HMS Cornwall in waters off southern Iraq.

Iran charged them with being in its territorial waters, and the government
televised apologies by some of the captured crew. They were all eventually
freed without an apology from Britain, which steadfastly insisted the crew
members were taken in Iraqi waters where they were authorized to be.
fasgnadh
2009-08-10 10:03:07 UTC
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Post by seon
Why does Iran charge so many innocent people with spying?
Because their regime is crumbling. B^]

Why do you post this to alt.religion.bahai, don't you know
that they won't make any political comments, it's against their
religion! B^D

But I will! B^)
Post by seon
Its just another phony charge.



The real significance of the recent electoral scandal,
the widespread protests, the regimes repressive response,
the death of Neda Agha Soltan, and the ongoing turmoil,
is that the regimes is shaken and split, right up into the
power elite.

In the previous election when Ahmadinnerjacket was greeted
by the Ayatollah, he was warmly embraced, this time he went
for the big hug, was held off, and he was forced to try and
make it look he went to kiss the Ayatollah's robe..

He's there for the moment, but has no future.

The regime is a disaster, their days are numbered, the tipping point
was symbolised by Nada's death. For years they have been killing
and persecuting the Bahai and other religious minorities, now they
have been shown on TV killing devoted Muslims!
People from the MAINSTREAM!!! 8^o

Their time is coming to an end.
Post by seon
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ml_iraq_missing_americans
SULAIMANIYAH, Iraq - Iran state TV confirmed Saturday that it has
detained three Americans who crossed the border from northern Iraq,
saying they failed to heed warnings from Iranian guards. Kurdish
officials from the self-ruled region in northern Iraq said the three -
two men and a woman - were tourists who had mistakenly crossed into
Iranian territory Friday while hiking in a mountainous area near the
resort town of Ahmed Awaa.
"The Iranians said they have arrested them because they entered their
land without legal permission," said Qubad Talabani, the Kurdish
regional government's envoy to Washington.
Iran's state owned Arabic-language al-Alam TV station cited a
"well-informed source" in the Interior Ministry that the three Americans
were detained Friday after crossing into Iran's Kurdistan province.
The report said the Americans were arrested after they did not heed
warnings from Iranian border guards.
State Department spokesman Robert Wood said Saturday that Washington had
asked the Swiss, who represent U.S. interests in Tehran, "to confirm
these reports with Iranian authorities and, if true, to seek consular
access" to the detained Americans.
The detentions were the latest irritant in relations between Iran and
the United States, which have had no diplomatic ties since 1979 when
militant students stormed the U.S Embassy in Tehran and took Americans
there hostage for 444 days. The two countries also are locked in a
bitter dispute over Tehran's nuclear program.
They also came at a sensitive time for the Shiite-dominated Iraqi
government as it seeks to balance delicate ties between its U.S. and
Iranian allies. Iraqi security forces recently staged a deadly raid on a
camp housing an Iranian opposition group that was protected by the
American military for years. The raid was applauded by Tehran.
Kurds occupy an area that sprawls across southwestern Turkey, northern
Iraq and eastern Iran. The borders are mountainous and not clearly
marked, making them popular smuggling routes for centuries.
Iraq's Kurdish region has been relatively free of the violence that
plagues the rest of Iraq. Foreigners often feel freer to move around
without security guards in the area, and it's relatively easy to enter
the region from Turkey, particularly by plane. The Kurdish government
generally grants visitors visas valid for one week when they arrive at
the airport.
The ethnic minority gained autonomy after rising up against Saddam
Hussein in 1991, and the region was protected from his forces by a
U.S.-British no-fly zone until Saddam's fall after the 2003 U.S. invasion.
The three Americans had traveled with a companion to Turkey, then
entered the Kurdish region Tuesday through the border crossing at Zakho
and traveled to Sulaimaniyah, according to the Kurdish regional
government. On Thursday, the three took a taxi to Ahmed Awaa, it added.
The regional government's statement said the three went astray during an
excursion and were detained by Iranian authorities at the border at
about 1:30 p.m. Friday.
"After walking around the area and hiking the mountain, they lost their
way due to their lack of familiarity with the location, and entered
Iranian territory," it said, pledging to work with U.S. and Iranian
officials to find a solution.
The three were last heard from after they contacted a friend saying they
had entered Iran by mistake and troops had surrounded them, a Kurdish
security official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because he
wasn't authorized to release the information.
The official said the account came from the fourth member of their group
who was feeling sick and had stayed behind in Sulaimaniyah, 160 miles
(260 kilometers) northeast of Baghdad.
The Iranian state TV report claimed the four Americans were together
when they crossed the border, but "only one returned (to Iraq), while
the three were arrested."
The discrepancy could not immediately be reconciled.
The area where the three disappeared is a popular hiking destination
known for a picturesque waterfall and rocky scenery as well as a thick
growth of fruit and nut trees. The official said camping equipment and
two backpacks apparently belonging to the Americans were found in the
area and it seemed they were hiking above the waterfall when they
accidentally crossed the border.
Kurdish officials said U.S. helicopters and Humvees deployed to the
nearby city of Halabja to search for the Americans after they were
reported missing on Friday but left after it was determined they had
been seized by the Iranians.
In March 2007, Iranian forces captured 15 British service members as
they carried out a boarding operation in two inflatable boats launched
from the HMS Cornwall in waters off southern Iraq.
Iran charged them with being in its territorial waters, and the
government televised apologies by some of the captured crew. They were
all eventually freed without an apology from Britain, which steadfastly
insisted the crew members were taken in Iraqi waters where they were
authorized to be.
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seon
2009-08-10 22:28:17 UTC
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Post by fasgnadh
Post by seon
Why does Iran charge so many innocent people with spying?
Because their regime is crumbling. B^]
Why do you post this to alt.religion.bahai, don't you know
that they won't make any political comments, it's against their
religion! B^D
They are non bahais in Iran who like me realise their regeme is crumbling
Post by fasgnadh
But I will! B^)
Post by seon
Its just another phony charge.
Yep I agree.
Post by fasgnadh
http://youtu.be/o21k4AI2KSE
The real significance of the recent electoral scandal,
the widespread protests, the regimes repressive response,
the death of Neda Agha Soltan, and the ongoing turmoil,
is that the regimes is shaken and split, right up into the
power elite.
In the previous election when Ahmadinnerjacket was greeted
by the Ayatollah, he was warmly embraced, this time he went
for the big hug, was held off, and he was forced to try and
make it look he went to kiss the Ayatollah's robe..
He's there for the moment, but has no future.
The regime is a disaster, their days are numbered, the tipping point
was symbolised by Nada's death. For years they have been killing
and persecuting the Bahai and other religious minorities, now they
have been shown on TV killing devoted Muslims!
People from the MAINSTREAM!!! 8^o
Their time is coming to an end.
Post by seon
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ml_iraq_missing_americans
SULAIMANIYAH, Iraq - Iran state TV confirmed Saturday that it has
detained three Americans who crossed the border from northern Iraq,
saying they failed to heed warnings from Iranian guards. Kurdish
officials from the self-ruled region in northern Iraq said the three -
two men and a woman - were tourists who had mistakenly crossed into
Iranian territory Friday while hiking in a mountainous area near the
resort town of Ahmed Awaa.
"The Iranians said they have arrested them because they entered their
land without legal permission," said Qubad Talabani, the Kurdish regional
government's envoy to Washington.
Iran's state owned Arabic-language al-Alam TV station cited a
"well-informed source" in the Interior Ministry that the three Americans
were detained Friday after crossing into Iran's Kurdistan province.
The report said the Americans were arrested after they did not heed
warnings from Iranian border guards.
State Department spokesman Robert Wood said Saturday that Washington had
asked the Swiss, who represent U.S. interests in Tehran, "to confirm
these reports with Iranian authorities and, if true, to seek consular
access" to the detained Americans.
The detentions were the latest irritant in relations between Iran and the
United States, which have had no diplomatic ties since 1979 when militant
students stormed the U.S Embassy in Tehran and took Americans there
hostage for 444 days. The two countries also are locked in a bitter
dispute over Tehran's nuclear program.
They also came at a sensitive time for the Shiite-dominated Iraqi
government as it seeks to balance delicate ties between its U.S. and
Iranian allies. Iraqi security forces recently staged a deadly raid on a
camp housing an Iranian opposition group that was protected by the
American military for years. The raid was applauded by Tehran.
Kurds occupy an area that sprawls across southwestern Turkey, northern
Iraq and eastern Iran. The borders are mountainous and not clearly
marked, making them popular smuggling routes for centuries.
Iraq's Kurdish region has been relatively free of the violence that
plagues the rest of Iraq. Foreigners often feel freer to move around
without security guards in the area, and it's relatively easy to enter
the region from Turkey, particularly by plane. The Kurdish government
generally grants visitors visas valid for one week when they arrive at
the airport.
The ethnic minority gained autonomy after rising up against Saddam
Hussein in 1991, and the region was protected from his forces by a
U.S.-British no-fly zone until Saddam's fall after the 2003 U.S. invasion.
The three Americans had traveled with a companion to Turkey, then entered
the Kurdish region Tuesday through the border crossing at Zakho and
traveled to Sulaimaniyah, according to the Kurdish regional government.
On Thursday, the three took a taxi to Ahmed Awaa, it added.
The regional government's statement said the three went astray during an
excursion and were detained by Iranian authorities at the border at about
1:30 p.m. Friday.
"After walking around the area and hiking the mountain, they lost their
way due to their lack of familiarity with the location, and entered
Iranian territory," it said, pledging to work with U.S. and Iranian
officials to find a solution.
The three were last heard from after they contacted a friend saying they
had entered Iran by mistake and troops had surrounded them, a Kurdish
security official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because he
wasn't authorized to release the information.
The official said the account came from the fourth member of their group
who was feeling sick and had stayed behind in Sulaimaniyah, 160 miles
(260 kilometers) northeast of Baghdad.
The Iranian state TV report claimed the four Americans were together when
they crossed the border, but "only one returned (to Iraq), while the
three were arrested."
The discrepancy could not immediately be reconciled.
The area where the three disappeared is a popular hiking destination
known for a picturesque waterfall and rocky scenery as well as a thick
growth of fruit and nut trees. The official said camping equipment and
two backpacks apparently belonging to the Americans were found in the
area and it seemed they were hiking above the waterfall when they
accidentally crossed the border.
Kurdish officials said U.S. helicopters and Humvees deployed to the
nearby city of Halabja to search for the Americans after they were
reported missing on Friday but left after it was determined they had been
seized by the Iranians.
In March 2007, Iranian forces captured 15 British service members as they
carried out a boarding operation in two inflatable boats launched from
the HMS Cornwall in waters off southern Iraq.
Iran charged them with being in its territorial waters, and the
government televised apologies by some of the captured crew. They were
all eventually freed without an apology from Britain, which steadfastly
insisted the crew members were taken in Iraqi waters where they were
authorized to be.
--
"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8295?context=latest
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8290?context=latest
"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:6348?context=latest
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17478?context=latest
"How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"
- Lenin
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17475?context=latest
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cornholio
2009-08-11 01:16:33 UTC
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Post by seon
Why does Iran charge so many innocent people with spying? Its just another
phony charge.
It's been a good method for the islamonazis who run Iran to eliminate/
control
their unwanted Jewish populous.
seon
2009-08-11 06:32:05 UTC
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Post by cornholio
Post by seon
Why does Iran charge so many innocent people with spying? Its just another
phony charge.
It's been a good method for the islamonazis who run Iran to eliminate/
control
their unwanted Jewish populous.
Funny since those who were kidnapped weren't Jews. But I agree with the
islamonazi statement. Death to the dictators!
cornholio
2009-08-11 14:02:40 UTC
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Post by seon
Post by cornholio
Post by seon
Why does Iran charge so many innocent people with spying? Its just another
phony charge.
It's been a good method for the islamonazis who run Iran to eliminate/
control
their unwanted Jewish populous.
Funny since those who were kidnapped weren't Jews. But I agree with the
islamonazi statement. Death to the dictators!
Duh, the muslim pigs in Iran have convicted and hung Jews for
being "spies" for Israel over the last several decades in trials that
are closed door proceedings and always return a guilty verdict.

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