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NUR
2009-03-27 05:11:55 UTC
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TRB = PSYCHOLOGICAL WAR ZONE – CAUTION NON-BAHAIS


== The following will be periodically re-posted==


Start HERE (Sourcewatch): http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Baha%27i_Faith

SECTS OF BAHAIS: A Taxonomy of Baha'i Sects, http://www.sectsofbahais.com/

&

See documentary film by independent Israeli film maker Naama Pyritz:
BAHA'IS IN MY BACKYARD
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2877478116441126906&hl=en-AU

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US NSA vs OBF (Orthodox Baha'i Faith)

Recent court victory by the Orthodox Baha'is, and the suit brought by
the Haifan Bahai organization against them:
http://trueseeker.typepad.com/true_seeker/court_case.html

Judge's decision
http://www.truebahai.info/court/139-opinion.pdf

**Appellate hearing (Feb 2009)***
http://www.ca7.uscourts.gov/tmp/LF1FFZY0.mp3


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BAHAI Tactics & Techniques - CAUTION NON-BAHAIS


"Slanderous Vilification" = The Baha'i Technique - Ad Hominem, Libel,
Slander, Demonize, Scapegoat, Ostracize, Shun, Banish, Backbite,
Defame, Vilify, Discredit, Smear, Revile, Suppress, Attack, Bully,
Intimidate, Threaten, Malign, Blackball, Deceive, Coerce, Silence,
Harass... etc., etc.... CAUTION NON-BAHAIS


1. As far as possible they hold back from responding
2. Then they claim no knowledge of the given issue by feigning
ignorance
3. After the exposer has exposed they will try to divert to secondary
and totally peripheral and irrelevent side-issues
4. The exposer is then painted as someone with an axe to grind,
biased, deluded (while they, the bahaim, still have not responded to
the main issue exposed)
5. Next they relate mental instability and insanity to the exposer,
i.e. shoot the messenger
6. Then, the last tactic, is to wheel out several dubious personas on
the scene who claim to be neutral non-bahai observers who then begin
attacking the exposer as well as the issue exposed and supporting the
bahais and their issues as so-called non-bahais


See as well Sourcewatch article PAT KOHLI,
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Pat_kohli

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THEORY OF BAHA’I LYING & EQUIVOCATION

See Susan Stiles Maneck,
http://bahai-library.com/bsr/bsr06/62_maneck_hikmat.htm
WISDOM AND DISSIMULATION IN THE BAHA’I WRITINGS: The Use and meaning
of Hikmat in the Baha’i Writings

Quote
"In many cases hikmat calls for the apparent suspension of a Bahá'í
principle in order to ensure the protection of the Faith."

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BAHA'I ADMINISTRATIVE IDOLATRY & STALINISM

QUOTE
"We don't want to be like those people who want to see God with their
own eyes, or hear His melody with their own ears, because we have been
given the gift of being able to see through the eyes of the House of
Justice and listen through the ears of the House of Justice." - Bahai
Counselor Rebeque Murphy

To hear this section of her talk go to:
http://media1.bahai.us/tab/Highlights/Sunday/30_Counselor_Murphy_Remarks.mp3

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BAHAI NOTIONS of FREEDOM of CONSCIENCE according to EX-UHJ member
DOUGLAS MARTIN -- Monday, September 23, 2001

http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/DMartin.htm

"We have inherited a dangerous delusion from Christianity that our
individual conscience is supreme. This is not a Baha'i belief. In the
end, in the context of both our role in the community and our role in
the greater world, we must be prepared to sacrifice our personal
convictions or opinions. The belief that individual conscience is
supreme is equivalent to "taking partners with God" which is abhorrent
to the Teachings of the Faith."
http://www.bahai-library.org/talks/martin.watson.html



NOTE especially, S.G. Wilson,
BAHAISM AND RELIGIOUS ASSASSINATION The Muslim World vol. 4, issue 4,
1914
&
BAHAISM AND RELIGIOUS DECEPTION The Muslim World, Volume 5, Issue 2,
1914-1915.
at,
http://wahidazal66.googlepages.com/babidocuments%28westernsources%29

See as well, BAHAISM AND THE BRITISH
http://bahaisandbritannia.googlepages.com/home

&

BAHA'I SCAM-ARTISTRY & FRAUD IN THE UNITED ARAB EMIRATES: A Multi-
Milliard Rial Scam* By A Baha’i Company in Dubai
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/0c8df7dca08d52ce#

FBI raids office of Baha’i at Univ. Florida
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/97aed7a172da675/1b8eb9f1758c241b?lnk=gst&q=FBI+%2B+Bahai#1b8eb9f1758c241b

BAHAI BUSINESS PRACTICES IN THE USA
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/de706298e9a9cd6f#

BAHAI SPY RING IN INDIA BUSTED
http://groups.google.com.au/group/soc.culture.iranian/browse_thread/thread/91f9b845cd9105a3/78727004d825a589?lnk=gst&q=Bahai+Spy+Ring+with+India+Busted#78727004d825a589

&


BAHA’I CONTROL ON THEIR ELECTORAL SYSTEM – EXPOSED (Structural
features of Bahai Stalinism)
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/636c4cedf90dea5b


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See as well,
http://www.bayanic.com [CLICK tab BAHAISM]



==CAUTION NON-BAHAIS==
NUR
2009-03-27 06:44:26 UTC
Permalink
From Mission Problems in New Persia, 1926, p. 83, 87 & 89 quoted by
William McElwee Miller in The Baha'i Faith: It's History and
Teachings, 1973, p. 289.

"...There is no conscience with them [ i.e. the Baha'is], they keep
to no principle, they tell you what is untrue, ignoring or denying
undoubted historical facts, and this is the character of both the
leader and the led...As to morality and honesty, the whole system has
proved disappointing...I have been in contact with many Baha'is, and
have had dealings with many and have tested many, and unfortunately I
have met not a single one who could be called honest or faithful in
the full sense of these words..."


Dr Sa'eed Khan [was] a highly-respected physician...who had as a
doctor treated the second widow of the Bab, and had for a lifetime
known intimately both Babis [i.e. Bayanis] and Baha'is in Tehran and
Hamadan.
Post by NUR
TRB = PSYCHOLOGICAL WAR ZONE – CAUTION NON-BAHAIS
== The following will be periodically re-posted==
Start HERE (Sourcewatch):http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Baha%27i_Faith
SECTS OF BAHAIS: A Taxonomy of Baha'i Sects,http://www.sectsofbahais.com/
&
BAHA'IS IN MY BACKYARDhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2877478116441126906&hl=en-AU
-
US NSA vs OBF (Orthodox Baha'i Faith)
Recent court victory by the Orthodox Baha'is, and the suit brought by
the Haifan Bahai organization against them:http://trueseeker.typepad.com/true_seeker/court_case.html
Judge's decisionhttp://www.truebahai.info/court/139-opinion.pdf
**Appellate hearing (Feb 2009)***http://www.ca7.uscourts.gov/tmp/LF1FFZY0.mp3
-
BAHAI Tactics & Techniques - CAUTION NON-BAHAIS
"Slanderous Vilification" = The Baha'i Technique - Ad Hominem, Libel,
Slander, Demonize, Scapegoat, Ostracize, Shun, Banish, Backbite,
Defame, Vilify, Discredit, Smear, Revile, Suppress, Attack, Bully,
Intimidate, Threaten, Malign, Blackball, Deceive, Coerce, Silence,
Harass... etc., etc....  CAUTION NON-BAHAIS
1. As far as possible they hold back from responding
2. Then they claim no knowledge of the given issue by feigning
ignorance
3. After the exposer has exposed they will try to divert to secondary
and totally peripheral and irrelevent side-issues
4. The exposer is then painted as someone with an axe to grind,
biased, deluded (while they, the bahaim, still have not responded to
the main issue exposed)
5. Next they relate mental instability and insanity to the exposer,
i.e. shoot the messenger
6. Then, the last tactic, is to wheel out several dubious personas on
the scene who claim to be neutral non-bahai observers who then begin
attacking the exposer as well as the issue exposed and supporting the
bahais and their issues as so-called non-bahais
See as well Sourcewatch article PAT KOHLI,http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Pat_kohli
-
THEORY OF BAHA’I LYING & EQUIVOCATION
See Susan Stiles Maneck,http://bahai-library.com/bsr/bsr06/62_maneck_hikmat.htm
WISDOM AND DISSIMULATION IN THE BAHA’I WRITINGS: The Use and meaning
of Hikmat in the Baha’i Writings
Quote
"In many cases hikmat calls for the apparent suspension of a Bahá'í
principle in order to ensure the protection of the Faith."
-
BAHA'I ADMINISTRATIVE IDOLATRY & STALINISM
QUOTE
"We don't want to be like those people who want to see God with their
own eyes, or hear His melody with their own ears, because we have been
given the gift of being able to see through the eyes of the House of
Justice and listen through the ears of the House of Justice." - Bahai
Counselor Rebeque Murphy
To hear this section of her talk go to:http://media1.bahai.us/tab/Highlights/Sunday/30_Counselor_Murphy_Rema...
-
BAHAI NOTIONS of FREEDOM of CONSCIENCE according to EX-UHJ member
DOUGLAS MARTIN --  Monday, September 23, 2001
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/DMartin.htm
 "We have inherited a dangerous delusion from Christianity that our
individual conscience is supreme. This is not a Baha'i belief. In the
end, in the context of both our role in the community and our role in
the  greater world, we must be prepared to sacrifice our personal
convictions or opinions. The belief that individual conscience is
supreme is equivalent to "taking partners with God" which is abhorrent
to the Teachings of the Faith."http://www.bahai-library.org/talks/martin.watson.html
NOTE especially, S.G. Wilson,
BAHAISM AND RELIGIOUS ASSASSINATION The Muslim World vol. 4, issue 4,
1914
&
BAHAISM AND RELIGIOUS DECEPTION The Muslim World, Volume 5, Issue 2,
1914-1915.
at,http://wahidazal66.googlepages.com/babidocuments%28westernsources%29
See as well, BAHAISM AND THE BRITISHhttp://bahaisandbritannia.googlepages.com/home
&
BAHA'I SCAM-ARTISTRY & FRAUD IN THE UNITED ARAB EMIRATES: A Multi-
Milliard Rial Scam* By A Baha’i Company in Dubaihttp://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/t...
FBI raids office of Baha’i at Univ. Floridahttp://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/t...
BAHAI BUSINESS PRACTICES IN THE USAhttp://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/t...
BAHAI SPY RING IN INDIA BUSTEDhttp://groups.google.com.au/group/soc.culture.iranian/browse_thread/t...
&
BAHA’I CONTROL ON THEIR ELECTORAL SYSTEM – EXPOSED (Structural
features of Bahai Stalinism)http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/t...
-
See as well,http://www.bayanic.com[CLICK tab BAHAISM]
==CAUTION NON-BAHAIS==
NUR
2009-03-28 01:06:45 UTC
Permalink
Post by NUR
TRB = PSYCHOLOGICAL WAR ZONE – CAUTION NON-BAHAIS
== The following will be periodically re-posted==
Start HERE (Sourcewatch):http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Baha%27i_Faith
SECTS OF BAHAIS: A Taxonomy of Baha'i Sects,http://www.sectsofbahais.com/
&
BAHA'IS IN MY BACKYARDhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2877478116441126906&hl=en-AU
-
US NSA vs OBF (Orthodox Baha'i Faith)
Recent court victory by the Orthodox Baha'is, and the suit brought by
the Haifan Bahai organization against them:http://trueseeker.typepad.com/true_seeker/court_case.html
Judge's decisionhttp://www.truebahai.info/court/139-opinion.pdf
**Appellate hearing (Feb 2009)***http://www.ca7.uscourts.gov/tmp/LF1FFZY0.mp3
-
BAHAI Tactics & Techniques - CAUTION NON-BAHAIS
"Slanderous Vilification" = The Baha'i Technique - Ad Hominem, Libel,
Slander, Demonize, Scapegoat, Ostracize, Shun, Banish, Backbite,
Defame, Vilify, Discredit, Smear, Revile, Suppress, Attack, Bully,
Intimidate, Threaten, Malign, Blackball, Deceive, Coerce, Silence,
Harass... etc., etc....  CAUTION NON-BAHAIS
1. As far as possible they hold back from responding
2. Then they claim no knowledge of the given issue by feigning
ignorance
3. After the exposer has exposed they will try to divert to secondary
and totally peripheral and irrelevent side-issues
4. The exposer is then painted as someone with an axe to grind,
biased, deluded (while they, the bahaim, still have not responded to
the main issue exposed)
5. Next they relate mental instability and insanity to the exposer,
i.e. shoot the messenger
6. Then, the last tactic, is to wheel out several dubious personas on
the scene who claim to be neutral non-bahai observers who then begin
attacking the exposer as well as the issue exposed and supporting the
bahais and their issues as so-called non-bahais
See as well Sourcewatch article PAT KOHLI,http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Pat_kohli
-
THEORY OF BAHA’I LYING & EQUIVOCATION
See Susan Stiles Maneck,http://bahai-library.com/bsr/bsr06/62_maneck_hikmat.htm
WISDOM AND DISSIMULATION IN THE BAHA’I WRITINGS: The Use and meaning
of Hikmat in the Baha’i Writings
Quote
"In many cases hikmat calls for the apparent suspension of a Bahá'í
principle in order to ensure the protection of the Faith."
-
BAHA'I ADMINISTRATIVE IDOLATRY & STALINISM
QUOTE
"We don't want to be like those people who want to see God with their
own eyes, or hear His melody with their own ears, because we have been
given the gift of being able to see through the eyes of the House of
Justice and listen through the ears of the House of Justice." - Bahai
Counselor Rebeque Murphy
To hear this section of her talk go to:http://media1.bahai.us/tab/Highlights/Sunday/30_Counselor_Murphy_Rema...
-
BAHAI NOTIONS of FREEDOM of CONSCIENCE according to EX-UHJ member
DOUGLAS MARTIN --  Monday, September 23, 2001
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/DMartin.htm
 "We have inherited a dangerous delusion from Christianity that our
individual conscience is supreme. This is not a Baha'i belief. In the
end, in the context of both our role in the community and our role in
the  greater world, we must be prepared to sacrifice our personal
convictions or opinions. The belief that individual conscience is
supreme is equivalent to "taking partners with God" which is abhorrent
to the Teachings of the Faith."http://www.bahai-library.org/talks/martin.watson.html
NOTE especially, S.G. Wilson,
BAHAISM AND RELIGIOUS ASSASSINATION The Muslim World vol. 4, issue 4,
1914
&
BAHAISM AND RELIGIOUS DECEPTION The Muslim World, Volume 5, Issue 2,
1914-1915.
at,http://wahidazal66.googlepages.com/babidocuments%28westernsources%29
See as well, BAHAISM AND THE BRITISHhttp://bahaisandbritannia.googlepages.com/home
&
BAHA'I SCAM-ARTISTRY & FRAUD IN THE UNITED ARAB EMIRATES: A Multi-
Milliard Rial Scam* By A Baha’i Company in Dubaihttp://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/t...
FBI raids office of Baha’i at Univ. Floridahttp://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/t...
BAHAI BUSINESS PRACTICES IN THE USAhttp://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/t...
BAHAI SPY RING IN INDIA BUSTEDhttp://groups.google.com.au/group/soc.culture.iranian/browse_thread/t...
&
BAHA’I CONTROL ON THEIR ELECTORAL SYSTEM – EXPOSED (Structural
features of Bahai Stalinism)http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/t...
-
See as well,http://www.bayanic.com[CLICK tab BAHAISM]
==CAUTION NON-BAHAIS==
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