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SourceWatch article "Bahai Faith" (mentioning legal action against OBF)
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NUR
2009-03-26 00:28:19 UTC
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Seon Ferguson
2009-03-26 06:07:36 UTC
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> http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Baha%27i_Faith
>
> Baha'i Faith
>
> From SourceWatch
>
>
> The Baha'i Faith is a religion which grew out of Babism.[1] It was
> "founded in Iran in the mid-19th century by Mirza Hoseyn 'Ali Nuri,
> who is known as Baha` Ullah (Arabic: "Glory of God")."[2]. Baha'is
> consider their faith to be "the youngest of the world’s independent
> monotheistic religions. Founded in Iran in 1844, it now has more than
> five million adherents in 236 countries and territories. Baha'is come
> from nearly every national, ethnic and religious background, making
> the Baha'i Faith the second-most-widespread religion in the
> world."[3]
>
> Numerous former members of the faith, most notably those adhering to
> the Haifan Baha'i authority, have criticised the organisation for
> engaging in various forms of coercion and authoritarian institutional
> influence upon personal affairs in attempting to curb public criticism
> and dissent amongst its members.[4][5].
>
> Contents [hide]
> 1 Sects, Divisions and Organisations
> 2 The Haifan Baha'i Organisation
> 3 Famous Members
> 4 Contact
> 5 Resources and articles
> 5.1 Related Sourcewatch
> 5.2 References
>
> [edit]Sects, Divisions and Organisations
> In its current state, the Baha’i Faith is divided amongst several
> sects, the most prominent of which is that based in Haifa Israel, and
> affiliated with the Universal House of Justice. At least nine sects
> identify themselves as members of the Baha'i faith.[6]
>
> Orthodox Bahá'í Faith (the OBF Respondents, following Joel B.
> Marangella);[7]
> Bahá'ís Under Provisions of the Covenant (the other Respondents,
> following Leland Jensen).[8]
> The Bahá'í Faith or Bahá'í World Faith (the Movant NSA);
> Tarbiyat Bahá'í Community (formerly known as Orthodox Bahá'ís Under
> the Regency) (Rex King group).[9];
> Bahá'ís Under the living Guardianship [10] (Donald Harvey as the third
> Guardian and Jacques Soghomonian as the fourth Guardian), an
> organization that is the successor to the Remey NSA [11]
> Reform Baha'is[12];
> Free Baha'is[13];
> Unitarian Baha'is[14];
> John Carre ("followers of Alif a Third Manifestation of God - the
> third letter of the Greatest Name")
> Within the Haifan Baha'i organisation, these groups are considered
> dissidents, and amongst the wider Baha'i community there exists a
> significant amount of controversy surrounding the various legitimacy
> and authority claims of these groups.[15]
>
> In 2008, the National Spiritual Assembly of the Bahá'ís of the United
> States (Wilmette NSA), launched unsuccessful legal action on behalf of
> the Haifan Baha'is against the Orthodox Baha'i group, claiming breach
> of an injunction preventing rival groups from using the name "Baha'i"
> and certain related symbology.[16] The National Spiritual Assembly of
> the Bahá'ís of the United States is currently appealing the ruling.
> [17]
>
> [edit]The Haifan Baha'i Organisation
> Based in Haifa, Israel, the Haifan Baha'is operate under the authority
> of the Universal House of Justice Universal House of Justice. The
> faith is then administered country to country by National Spiritual
> Assemblies, and finally by Local Spiritual Assemblies.[18]
>
> The principles and goals to which the Haifan Baha’i Faith claims to
> adhere include [19]:
>
> The Oneness of Mankind
> Universal Peace Independent Investigation of Truth
> The Common Foundation of All Religions
> The Essential Harmony of Science and Religion
> The Equality of Women and Men
> Elimination of Prejudice of All Kinds
> Universal Compulsory Education
> A Spiritual Solution to Economic Problems
> As well as advocating the development and implementation of:
>
> A World Super-State
> A World Legislator
> The unity of all the world's religions under the umbrella of the
> Baha'i Faith
> A World Parliament
> A World Police Force
> A Supreme Tribunal
> Election of leaders through merit alone without nominations (the
> Administrative Order)
> A single Universal Auxiliary Language
> A permanent single currency
> An international uniform tax
> The implementation of Agenda 21 and the Earth Charter

I can't believe I purposely left out those things while defending the Bahai
faith all those times. As I said I can not support any of this. I have a
question though.
Bahai's say all faiths lead to God but want all the religion's to come under
the umbrella of the Bahai faith. So if all religions lead to God why not
allow the followers to practice whatever religion they want? Also I have
another question for the Bahai's. How do you propose you force people to
follow your religion? ban all other religions? I keep saying the lawsuit
against the OBF is wrong but Wahid still thinks I am a phony.
All Bad
2009-03-26 10:31:35 UTC
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> "NUR" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Baha%27i_Faith
>>
>> Baha'i Faith
>>
>> From SourceWatch
>>
>>
>> The Baha'i Faith is a religion which grew out of Babism.[1] It was
>> "founded in Iran in the mid-19th century by Mirza Hoseyn 'Ali Nuri,
>> who is known as Baha` Ullah (Arabic: "Glory of God")."[2]. Baha'is
>> consider their faith to be "the youngest of the world¡¯s independent
>> monotheistic religions. Founded in Iran in 1844, it now has more than
>> five million adherents in 236 countries and territories. Baha'is come
>> from nearly every national, ethnic and religious background, making
>> the Baha'i Faith the second-most-widespread religion in the
>> world."[3]
>>
>> Numerous former members of the faith, most notably those adhering to
>> the Haifan Baha'i authority, have criticised the organisation for
>> engaging in various forms of coercion and authoritarian institutional
>> influence upon personal affairs in attempting to curb public criticism
>> and dissent amongst its members.[4][5].
>>
>> Contents [hide]
>> 1 Sects, Divisions and Organisations
>> 2 The Haifan Baha'i Organisation
>> 3 Famous Members
>> 4 Contact
>> 5 Resources and articles
>> 5.1 Related Sourcewatch
>> 5.2 References
>>
>> [edit]Sects, Divisions and Organisations
>> In its current state, the Baha¡¯i Faith is divided amongst several
>> sects, the most prominent of which is that based in Haifa Israel, and
>> affiliated with the Universal House of Justice. At least nine sects
>> identify themselves as members of the Baha'i faith.[6]
>>
>> Orthodox Bahš¢'šª Faith (the OBF Respondents, following Joel B.
>> Marangella);[7]
>> Bahš¢'šªs Under Provisions of the Covenant (the other Respondents,
>> following Leland Jensen).[8]
>> The Bahš¢'šª Faith or Bahš¢'šª World Faith (the Movant NSA);
>> Tarbiyat Bahš¢'šª Community (formerly known as Orthodox Bahš¢'šªs Under
>> the Regency) (Rex King group).[9];
>> Bahš¢'šªs Under the living Guardianship [10] (Donald Harvey as the third
>> Guardian and Jacques Soghomonian as the fourth Guardian), an
>> organization that is the successor to the Remey NSA [11]
>> Reform Baha'is[12];
>> Free Baha'is[13];
>> Unitarian Baha'is[14];
>> John Carre ("followers of Alif a Third Manifestation of God - the
>> third letter of the Greatest Name")
>> Within the Haifan Baha'i organisation, these groups are considered
>> dissidents, and amongst the wider Baha'i community there exists a
>> significant amount of controversy surrounding the various legitimacy
>> and authority claims of these groups.[15]
>>
>> In 2008, the National Spiritual Assembly of the Bahš¢'šªs of the United
>> States (Wilmette NSA), launched unsuccessful legal action on behalf of
>> the Haifan Baha'is against the Orthodox Baha'i group, claiming breach
>> of an injunction preventing rival groups from using the name "Baha'i"
>> and certain related symbology.[16] The National Spiritual Assembly of
>> the Bahš¢'šªs of the United States is currently appealing the ruling.
>> [17]
>>
>> [edit]The Haifan Baha'i Organisation
>> Based in Haifa, Israel, the Haifan Baha'is operate under the authority
>> of the Universal House of Justice Universal House of Justice. The
>> faith is then administered country to country by National Spiritual
>> Assemblies, and finally by Local Spiritual Assemblies.[18]
>>
>> The principles and goals to which the Haifan Baha¡¯i Faith claims to
>> adhere include [19]:
>>
>> The Oneness of Mankind
>> Universal Peace Independent Investigation of Truth
>> The Common Foundation of All Religions
>> The Essential Harmony of Science and Religion
>> The Equality of Women and Men
>> Elimination of Prejudice of All Kinds
>> Universal Compulsory Education
>> A Spiritual Solution to Economic Problems
>> As well as advocating the development and implementation of:
>>
>> A World Super-State
>> A World Legislator
>> The unity of all the world's religions under the umbrella of the
>> Baha'i Faith
>> A World Parliament
>> A World Police Force
>> A Supreme Tribunal
>> Election of leaders through merit alone without nominations (the
>> Administrative Order)
>> A single Universal Auxiliary Language
>> A permanent single currency
>> An international uniform tax
>> The implementation of Agenda 21 and the Earth Charter
>
> I can't believe I purposely left out those things while defending the
> Bahai faith all those times. As I said I can not support any of this. I
> have a question though.
> Bahai's say all faiths lead to God but want all the religion's to come
> under the umbrella of the Bahai faith. So if all religions lead to God why
> not allow the followers to practice whatever religion they want? Also I
> have another question for the Bahai's. How do you propose you force people
> to follow your religion? ban all other religions?

AB: Hello? Anyone home? I don't see where the bahoooveyeyeyeys say they
are going to force people to follow their religion. Suppose I said to you,
"So, you intend to carve the moon up into slices of cheese and serve
everyone grilled cheese sandwiches, but how do you propose to bring the
cheese down to earth?", I would hope you could see that I asked a stupid
question, and that it is a stupid question because it assumes something that
is wrong. How could you possibly provide a serious answer to such a stupid
question?

> I keep saying the lawsuit against the OBF is wrong but Wahid still thinks
> I am a phony.

AB: Don't take it personal; I think he is just trying to do his job.

- All Bad
Seon Ferguson
2009-03-26 11:01:42 UTC
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>> "NUR" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Baha%27i_Faith
>>>
>>> Baha'i Faith
>>>
>>> From SourceWatch
>>>
>>>
>>> The Baha'i Faith is a religion which grew out of Babism.[1] It was
>>> "founded in Iran in the mid-19th century by Mirza Hoseyn 'Ali Nuri,
>>> who is known as Baha` Ullah (Arabic: "Glory of God")."[2]. Baha'is
>>> consider their faith to be "the youngest of the world¡¯s independent
>>> monotheistic religions. Founded in Iran in 1844, it now has more than
>>> five million adherents in 236 countries and territories. Baha'is come
>>> from nearly every national, ethnic and religious background, making
>>> the Baha'i Faith the second-most-widespread religion in the
>>> world."[3]
>>>
>>> Numerous former members of the faith, most notably those adhering to
>>> the Haifan Baha'i authority, have criticised the organisation for
>>> engaging in various forms of coercion and authoritarian institutional
>>> influence upon personal affairs in attempting to curb public criticism
>>> and dissent amongst its members.[4][5].
>>>
>>> Contents [hide]
>>> 1 Sects, Divisions and Organisations
>>> 2 The Haifan Baha'i Organisation
>>> 3 Famous Members
>>> 4 Contact
>>> 5 Resources and articles
>>> 5.1 Related Sourcewatch
>>> 5.2 References
>>>
>>> [edit]Sects, Divisions and Organisations
>>> In its current state, the Baha¡¯i Faith is divided amongst several
>>> sects, the most prominent of which is that based in Haifa Israel, and
>>> affiliated with the Universal House of Justice. At least nine sects
>>> identify themselves as members of the Baha'i faith.[6]
>>>
>>> Orthodox Bah¨¢'¨ª Faith (the OBF Respondents, following Joel B.
>>> Marangella);[7]
>>> Bah¨¢'¨ªs Under Provisions of the Covenant (the other Respondents,
>>> following Leland Jensen).[8]
>>> The Bah¨¢'¨ª Faith or Bah¨¢'¨ª World Faith (the Movant NSA);
>>> Tarbiyat Bah¨¢'¨ª Community (formerly known as Orthodox Bah¨¢'¨ªs Under
>>> the Regency) (Rex King group).[9];
>>> Bah¨¢'¨ªs Under the living Guardianship [10] (Donald Harvey as the third
>>> Guardian and Jacques Soghomonian as the fourth Guardian), an
>>> organization that is the successor to the Remey NSA [11]
>>> Reform Baha'is[12];
>>> Free Baha'is[13];
>>> Unitarian Baha'is[14];
>>> John Carre ("followers of Alif a Third Manifestation of God - the
>>> third letter of the Greatest Name")
>>> Within the Haifan Baha'i organisation, these groups are considered
>>> dissidents, and amongst the wider Baha'i community there exists a
>>> significant amount of controversy surrounding the various legitimacy
>>> and authority claims of these groups.[15]
>>>
>>> In 2008, the National Spiritual Assembly of the Bah¨¢'¨ªs of the United
>>> States (Wilmette NSA), launched unsuccessful legal action on behalf of
>>> the Haifan Baha'is against the Orthodox Baha'i group, claiming breach
>>> of an injunction preventing rival groups from using the name "Baha'i"
>>> and certain related symbology.[16] The National Spiritual Assembly of
>>> the Bah¨¢'¨ªs of the United States is currently appealing the ruling.
>>> [17]
>>>
>>> [edit]The Haifan Baha'i Organisation
>>> Based in Haifa, Israel, the Haifan Baha'is operate under the authority
>>> of the Universal House of Justice Universal House of Justice. The
>>> faith is then administered country to country by National Spiritual
>>> Assemblies, and finally by Local Spiritual Assemblies.[18]
>>>
>>> The principles and goals to which the Haifan Baha¡¯i Faith claims to
>>> adhere include [19]:
>>>
>>> The Oneness of Mankind
>>> Universal Peace Independent Investigation of Truth
>>> The Common Foundation of All Religions
>>> The Essential Harmony of Science and Religion
>>> The Equality of Women and Men
>>> Elimination of Prejudice of All Kinds
>>> Universal Compulsory Education
>>> A Spiritual Solution to Economic Problems
>>> As well as advocating the development and implementation of:
>>>
>>> A World Super-State
>>> A World Legislator
>>> The unity of all the world's religions under the umbrella of the
>>> Baha'i Faith
>>> A World Parliament
>>> A World Police Force
>>> A Supreme Tribunal
>>> Election of leaders through merit alone without nominations (the
>>> Administrative Order)
>>> A single Universal Auxiliary Language
>>> A permanent single currency
>>> An international uniform tax
>>> The implementation of Agenda 21 and the Earth Charter
>>
>> I can't believe I purposely left out those things while defending the
>> Bahai faith all those times. As I said I can not support any of this. I
>> have a question though.
>> Bahai's say all faiths lead to God but want all the religion's to come
>> under the umbrella of the Bahai faith. So if all religions lead to God
>> why not allow the followers to practice whatever religion they want? Also
>> I have another question for the Bahai's. How do you propose you force
>> people to follow your religion? ban all other religions?
>
> AB: Hello? Anyone home? I don't see where the bahoooveyeyeyeys say they
> are going to force people to follow their religion. Suppose I said to
> you, "So, you intend to carve the moon up into slices of cheese and serve
> everyone grilled cheese sandwiches, but how do you propose to bring the
> cheese down to earth?", I would hope you could see that I asked a stupid
> question, and that it is a stupid question because it assumes something
> that is wrong. How could you possibly provide a serious answer to such a
> stupid question?
>
Ok so what does "The unity of all the world's religions under the umbrella
of the Baha'i Faith" mean?
Also I think he is just an ex bahai who was disillusioned and believes
everyone who disagrees with one thing he says is a bahai agent and paid to
be out to get him. That's all. I won't say he's a phony just because he says
I am one. That would be childish.
All Bad
2009-03-26 23:03:36 UTC
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> "All Bad" <***@md.metrocast.net> wrote in message
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>> "Seon Ferguson" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>>
(snip)
>>>
>>> I can't believe I purposely left out those things while defending the
>>> Bahai faith all those times. As I said I can not support any of this. I
>>> have a question though.
>>> Bahai's say all faiths lead to God but want all the religion's to come
>>> under the umbrella of the Bahai faith. So if all religions lead to God
>>> why not allow the followers to practice whatever religion they want?
>>> Also I have another question for the Bahai's. How do you propose you
>>> force people to follow your religion? ban all other religions?
>>
>> AB: Hello? Anyone home? I don't see where the bahoooveyeyeyeys say
>> they are going to force people to follow their religion. Suppose I said
>> to you, "So, you intend to carve the moon up into slices of cheese and
>> serve everyone grilled cheese sandwiches, but how do you propose to bring
>> the cheese down to earth?", I would hope you could see that I asked a
>> stupid question, and that it is a stupid question because it assumes
>> something that is wrong. How could you possibly provide a serious answer
>> to such a stupid question?
>>
> Ok so what does "The unity of all the world's religions under the umbrella
> of the Baha'i Faith" mean?

AB: I don't know. I googled "The unity of all the world's religions under
the umbrella"
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22The+unity+of+all+the+world%27s+religions+under+the+umbrella%22&btnG=Search
and it looks like the phrase may be coming from conspiracyarchive.com and
pasted in to SW and then here.
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/social_change_agents.htm In turn,
it looks like the conspiracyarchive.com version is from Tex Marrs. Thus, it
is safe to say that you are asking me for comments on a cartoon caricature.
So, what can I say, "it's a joke"?


> Also I think he is just an ex bahai who was disillusioned and believes
> everyone who disagrees with one thing he says is a bahai agent and paid to
> be out to get him. That's all. I won't say he's a phony just because he
> says I am one. That would be childish.
>
W. Azal? Childishness? Yeah, I think it could go w/o saying. OTOH,
though, it is not at all inconceivable to me that someone pays this person
for his performances. I honestly can say I simply have no conclusive proof,
just a basis for inference, and a lack of contra-indications.

- All Bad
Seon Ferguson
2009-03-27 01:01:32 UTC
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>>>>
> (snip)
>>>>
>>>> I can't believe I purposely left out those things while defending the
>>>> Bahai faith all those times. As I said I can not support any of this. I
>>>> have a question though.
>>>> Bahai's say all faiths lead to God but want all the religion's to come
>>>> under the umbrella of the Bahai faith. So if all religions lead to God
>>>> why not allow the followers to practice whatever religion they want?
>>>> Also I have another question for the Bahai's. How do you propose you
>>>> force people to follow your religion? ban all other religions?
>>>
>>> AB: Hello? Anyone home? I don't see where the bahoooveyeyeyeys say
>>> they are going to force people to follow their religion. Suppose I said
>>> to you, "So, you intend to carve the moon up into slices of cheese and
>>> serve everyone grilled cheese sandwiches, but how do you propose to
>>> bring the cheese down to earth?", I would hope you could see that I
>>> asked a stupid question, and that it is a stupid question because it
>>> assumes something that is wrong. How could you possibly provide a
>>> serious answer to such a stupid question?
>>>
>> Ok so what does "The unity of all the world's religions under the
>> umbrella of the Baha'i Faith" mean?
>
> AB: I don't know. I googled "The unity of all the world's religions
> under the umbrella"
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22The+unity+of+all+the+world%27s+religions+under+the+umbrella%22&btnG=Search
> and it looks like the phrase may be coming from conspiracyarchive.com and
> pasted in to SW and then here.
> http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/social_change_agents.htm In turn,
> it looks like the conspiracyarchive.com version is from Tex Marrs. Thus,
> it is safe to say that you are asking me for comments on a cartoon
> caricature. So, what can I say, "it's a joke"?
>
>
>> Also I think he is just an ex bahai who was disillusioned and believes
>> everyone who disagrees with one thing he says is a bahai agent and paid
>> to be out to get him. That's all. I won't say he's a phony just because
>> he says I am one. That would be childish.
>>
> W. Azal? Childishness? Yeah, I think it could go w/o saying. OTOH,
> though, it is not at all inconceivable to me that someone pays this person
> for his performances. I honestly can say I simply have no conclusive
> proof, just a basis for inference, and a lack of contra-indications.
>
> - All Bad
>
>
>
Kind of like him calling me a nsa agent.
NUR
2009-03-28 01:06:20 UTC
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It is pretty obvious that Pat Kohli is mentally ill. No doubt about it
anymore....

W

On Mar 28, 9:38 am, "All Bad" <***@md.metrocast.net>
wrote:
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> On Mar 27, 9:18 am, PaulHammond <***@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
>
> > The Sourcewatch article appears to be mostly a hatchet job put
> > together by Wahid (Wahid) and Atomised(who is MaybeIam101 here)
>
> > It's grown out of what was a stub in 2007, with those two being the
> > major contributors.
>
> > So, Seon, when Wahid is quoting this article, remember that he wrote
> > most of it, and it's not that surprising that it's couched in such a
> > way as to support his animus against the mainstream Baha'is.
>
> MIA1:  So Wahid skewed this material to his own end? You are truly, truly
> pathetic, Paul.
>
> MIA1:  http://www.bahai.com/Bahaullah/principles.htm
>
> AB:  This is a brilliant idea - see what the Bahooveyeyeyeys say about the
> Bahooveyeyey POV!  For example, Wahid's cartoon caricature had "The unity of
> all the world's religions under the umbrella of the Baha'i Faith".  This
> prompted Seon to ask the Bahooveyeyeyeys how they intend to make everyone
> practice their religion.  Let's see if that is one of the ten points
> below....
>
> MIA1:
> * The oneness of mankind.
> * Universal peace upheld by a world government.
> * Independent investigation of truth.
> * The common foundation of all religions.
> * The essential harmony of science and religion.
> * Equality of men and women.
> * Elimination of prejudice of all kinds.
> * Universal compulsory education.
> * A spiritual solution to the economic problem.
> * A universal auxiliary language.
>
> AB:  Uhuh, not there.  So we can use facts to check on lies.
>
> - All Bad
>
> MIA1:
> (bottom of the page attribution)
> Adapted by permission from "Bah¨¢'¨ª Teachings for a World Faith".
> Copyright (c) 1943, 1971, 1972 by the National Spiritual Assembly of
> the
> Bah¨¢'¨ªs of the United States of America. All rights reserved.
>
> http://bahai-library.com/introductory/warwick/newworld.html
>
> World Institutions
>
> To develop a genuine world order there needs to be:
> A World Government: to enact the laws required to satisfy the needs
> of
> all peoples. It will have at its disposal the combined forces of the
> world in order to maintain peace.
>
> A World Parliament: The members of this should be elected by the
> people in each country, and their election should be confirmed by
> their respective governments.
>
> A World Code Of Law: based on justice for individuals and for
> nations.
>
> A World Tribunal: Its decision will be binding on all parties.
>
> World Police Force: An international police force must be created,
> dedicated to upholding justice with complete impartiality.
>
> Universal Equality: Everyone must have the right to education and to
> be equal before the law. There must be a universal bill of human
> rights.
>
> A World Language: A world language will be either chosen or invented.
> This will be taught in all the schools of each country, in addition
> to
> the mother tongue of the region.
> (bottom of the page attribution)
>
> Published by the Spiritual Assembly of the Bah¨¢'¨ªs of Warwick.
> Approved by the National Spiritual Assembly of the Bah¨¢'¨ªs of the
> United Kingdom,
> 27 Rutland Gate, LONDON SW7 1PD.
> All quotations are from the Bah¨¢'¨ª writings.
>
> "In 1955, during the first decade review of the UN charter, the
> Bah¨¢'¨ª
> International Community offered a statement to the United Nations,
> based on ideas articulated nearly a century before by Bah¨¢'u'll¨¢h.
> "The Bah¨¢'¨ª concept of world order is defined in these terms: A world
> Super-State in whose favor all the nations of the world will have
> ceded every claim to make war, certain rights to impose taxation and
> all rights to maintain armaments, except for the purposes of
> maintaining internal order within their respective dominions. This
> State will have to include an International Executive adequate to
> enforce supreme and unchallengeable authority on every recalcitrant
> member of the Commonwealth; a World Parliament whose members are
> elected by the peoples in their respective countries and whose
> election is confirmed by their respective governments; a Supreme
> Tribunal whose judgment has a binding effect even in cases where the
> parties concerned have not voluntarily agreed to submit their case to
> its consideration."[29]
> ¡ü Bah¨¢'¨ª International Community. Proposals to the United Nations for
> Charter Revision. May 23, 1955 (quoted from Baha'i World: Turning
> Point For All Nations).
>
>
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> >http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Baha%27i_Faith
>
> > click on the "History" tab, or the link below to see who wrote what
> > into that article when.
>
> >http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Baha%27i_Faith&action=history
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Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF wrote:
>
>
> "NUR" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:cb748f1e-ec35-49f9-9db4-***@d7g2000prl.googlegroups.com...
>> http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Baha%27i_Faith
>>
>> Baha'i Faith
>>
>> From SourceWatch
>>
>>
>> The Baha'i Faith is a religion which grew out of Babism.[1] It was
>> "founded in Iran in the mid-19th century by Mirza Hoseyn 'Ali Nuri,
>> who is known as Baha` Ullah (Arabic: "Glory of God")."[2]. Baha'is
>> consider their faith to be "the youngest of the world’s independent
>> monotheistic religions. Founded in Iran in 1844, it now has more than
>> five million adherents in 236 countries and territories. Baha'is come
>> from nearly every national, ethnic and religious background, making
>> the Baha'i Faith the second-most-widespread religion in the
>> world."[3]
>>
>> Numerous former members of the faith, most notably those adhering to
>> the Haifan Baha'i authority, have criticised the organisation for
>> engaging in various forms of coercion and authoritarian institutional
>> influence upon personal affairs in attempting to curb public criticism
>> and dissent amongst its members.[4][5].
>>
>> Contents [hide]
>> 1 Sects, Divisions and Organisations
>> 2 The Haifan Baha'i Organisation
>> 3 Famous Members
>> 4 Contact
>> 5 Resources and articles
>> 5.1 Related Sourcewatch
>> 5.2 References
>>
>> [edit]Sects, Divisions and Organisations
>> In its current state, the Baha’i Faith is divided amongst several
>> sects, the most prominent of which is that based in Haifa Israel, and
>> affiliated with the Universal House of Justice. At least nine sects
>> identify themselves as members of the Baha'i faith.[6]
>>
>> Orthodox Bahá'í Faith (the OBF Respondents, following Joel B.
>> Marangella);[7]
>> Bahá'ís Under Provisions of the Covenant (the other Respondents,
>> following Leland Jensen).[8]
>> The Bahá'í Faith or Bahá'í World Faith (the Movant NSA);
>> Tarbiyat Bahá'í Community (formerly known as Orthodox Bahá'ís Under
>> the Regency) (Rex King group).[9];
>> Bahá'ís Under the living Guardianship [10] (Donald Harvey as the third
>> Guardian and Jacques Soghomonian as the fourth Guardian), an
>> organization that is the successor to the Remey NSA [11]
>> Reform Baha'is[12];
>> Free Baha'is[13];
>> Unitarian Baha'is[14];
>> John Carre ("followers of Alif a Third Manifestation of God - the
>> third letter of the Greatest Name")
>> Within the Haifan Baha'i organisation, these groups are considered
>> dissidents, and amongst the wider Baha'i community there exists a
>> significant amount of controversy surrounding the various legitimacy
>> and authority claims of these groups.[15]
>>
>> In 2008, the National Spiritual Assembly of the Bahá'ís of the United
>> States (Wilmette NSA), launched unsuccessful legal action on behalf of
>> the Haifan Baha'is against the Orthodox Baha'i group, claiming breach
>> of an injunction preventing rival groups from using the name "Baha'i"
>> and certain related symbology.[16] The National Spiritual Assembly of
>> the Bahá'ís of the United States is currently appealing the ruling.
>> [17]
>>
>> [edit]The Haifan Baha'i Organisation
>> Based in Haifa, Israel, the Haifan Baha'is operate under the authority
>> of the Universal House of Justice Universal House of Justice. The
>> faith is then administered country to country by National Spiritual
>> Assemblies, and finally by Local Spiritual Assemblies.[18]
>>
>> The principles and goals to which the Haifan Baha’i Faith claims to
>> adhere include [19]:
>>
>> The Oneness of Mankind
>> Universal Peace Independent Investigation of Truth
>> The Common Foundation of All Religions
>> The Essential Harmony of Science and Religion
>> The Equality of Women and Men
>> Elimination of Prejudice of All Kinds
>> Universal Compulsory Education
>> A Spiritual Solution to Economic Problems
>> As well as advocating the development and implementation of:
>>
>> A World Super-State
>> A World Legislator
>> The unity of all the world's religions under the umbrella of the
>> Baha'i Faith
>> A World Parliament
>> A World Police Force
>> A Supreme Tribunal
>> Election of leaders through merit alone without nominations (the
>> Administrative Order)
>> A single Universal Auxiliary Language
>> A permanent single currency
>> An international uniform tax
>> The implementation of Agenda 21 and the Earth Charter
>
> I can't believe I purposely left out those things while defending the
> Bahai faith all those times. As I said I can not support any of this. I
> have a question though.
> Bahai's say all faiths lead to God but want all the religion's to come
> under the umbrella of the Bahai faith. So if all religions lead to God
> why not allow the followers to practice whatever religion they want?
> Also I have another question for the Bahai's. How do you propose you
> force people to follow your religion? ban all other religions? I keep
> saying the lawsuit against the OBF is wrong but Wahid still thinks I am
> a phony.
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time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
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Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


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On Mar 26, 10:28 am, NUR <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Baha%27i_Faith
>
> Baha'i Faith
>
> From SourceWatch
>
> The Baha'i Faith is a religion which grew out of Babism.[1] It was
> "founded in Iran in the mid-19th century by Mirza Hoseyn 'Ali Nuri,
> who is known as Baha` Ullah (Arabic: "Glory of God")."[2]. Baha'is
> consider their faith to be "the youngest of the world's independent
> monotheistic religions. Founded in Iran in 1844, it now has more than
> five million adherents in 236 countries and territories. Baha'is come
> from nearly every national, ethnic and religious background, making
> the Baha'i Faith the second-most-widespread religion in the
> world."[3]
>
> Numerous former members of the faith, most notably those adhering to
> the Haifan Baha'i authority, have criticised the organisation for
> engaging in various forms of coercion and authoritarian institutional
> influence upon personal affairs in attempting to curb public criticism
> and dissent amongst its members.[4][5].
>
> Contents [hide]
> 1 Sects, Divisions and Organisations
> 2 The Haifan Baha'i Organisation
> 3 Famous Members
> 4 Contact
> 5 Resources and articles
> 5.1 Related Sourcewatch
> 5.2 References
>
> [edit]Sects, Divisions and Organisations
> In its current state, the Baha'i Faith is divided amongst several
> sects, the most prominent of which is that based in Haifa Israel, and
> affiliated with the Universal House of Justice. At least nine sects
> identify themselves as members of the Baha'i faith.[6]
>
> Orthodox Bahá'í Faith (the OBF Respondents, following Joel B.
> Marangella);[7]
> Bahá'ís Under Provisions of the Covenant (the other Respondents,
> following Leland Jensen).[8]
> The Bahá'í Faith or Bahá'í World Faith (the Movant NSA);
> Tarbiyat Bahá'í Community (formerly known as Orthodox Bahá'ís Under
> the Regency) (Rex King group).[9];
> Bahá'ís Under the living Guardianship [10] (Donald Harvey as the third
> Guardian and Jacques Soghomonian as the fourth Guardian), an
> organization that is the successor to the Remey NSA [11]
> Reform Baha'is[12];
> Free Baha'is[13];
> Unitarian Baha'is[14];
> John Carre ("followers of Alif a Third Manifestation of God - the
> third letter of the Greatest Name")
> Within the Haifan Baha'i organisation, these groups are considered
> dissidents, and amongst the wider Baha'i community there exists a
> significant amount of controversy surrounding the various legitimacy
> and authority claims of these groups.[15]
>
> In 2008, the National Spiritual Assembly of the Bahá'ís of the United
> States (Wilmette NSA), launched unsuccessful legal action on behalf of
> the Haifan Baha'is against the Orthodox Baha'i group, claiming breach
> of an injunction preventing rival groups from using the name "Baha'i"
> and certain related symbology.[16] The National Spiritual Assembly of
> the Bahá'ís of the United States is currently appealing the ruling.
> [17]
>
> [edit]The Haifan Baha'i Organisation
> Based in Haifa, Israel, the Haifan Baha'is operate under the authority
> of the Universal House of Justice Universal House of Justice. The
> faith is then administered country to country by National Spiritual
> Assemblies, and finally by Local Spiritual Assemblies.[18]
>
> The principles and goals to which the Haifan Baha'i Faith claims to
> adhere include [19]:
>
> The Oneness of Mankind
> Universal Peace Independent Investigation of Truth
> The Common Foundation of All Religions
> The Essential Harmony of Science and Religion
> The Equality of Women and Men
> Elimination of Prejudice of All Kinds
> Universal Compulsory Education
> A Spiritual Solution to Economic Problems
> As well as advocating the development and implementation of:
>
> A World Super-State
> A World Legislator
> The unity of all the world's religions under the umbrella of the
> Baha'i Faith
> A World Parliament
> A World Police Force
> A Supreme Tribunal
> Election of leaders through merit alone without nominations (the
> Administrative Order)
> A single Universal Auxiliary Language
> A permanent single currency
> An international uniform tax
> The implementation of Agenda 21 and the Earth Charter
>
> The Haifan Baha'i organization also explicitly refers to the these
> principles as elements of an approaching "New World Order", which is
> understood as a system of beliefs and teachings based upon the life
> and writings of their prophet founder, Bahá'u'lláh, and comprises a
> set of political, spiritual and social principles which Baha'is
> believe define the correct structure for the unification of mankind.
> [20]
>
> "It is towards this goal -- the goal of a new World Order, Divine in
> origin, all-embracing in scope, equitable in principle, challenging in
> its features -- that a harassed humanity must strive." (From the
> Baha'i Writings).[21]
>
> "In 1955, during the first decade review of the UN charter, the Bahá'í
> International Community offered a statement to the United Nations,
> based on ideas articulated nearly a century before by Bahá'u'lláh.
> "The Bahá'í concept of world order is defined in these terms: A world
> Super-State in whose favor all the nations of the world will have
> ceded every claim to make war, certain rights to impose taxation and
> all rights to maintain armaments, except for the purposes of
> maintaining internal order within their respective dominions. This
> State will have to include an International Executive adequate to
> enforce supreme and unchallengeable authority on every recalcitrant
> member of the Commonwealth; a World Parliament whose members are
> elected by the peoples in their respective countries and whose
> election is confirmed by their respective governments; a Supreme
> Tribunal whose judgment has a binding effect even in cases where the
> parties concerned have not voluntarily agreed to submit their case to
> its consideration."[22]
>
> However, Haifan Baha'is claim that what they refer to as a "World
> Commonwealth" should not be considered as having any distinct partisan
> political agenda.
>
> Despite its claims to equality between the sexes, women are prevented
> from being elected as members of the Universal House of Justice.[23]
>
> [edit]Famous Members
> In 1955, Time magazine reported that: "Famed Bahais are said to have
> included Queen Marie of Rumania, Actress Carole Lombard,
> Philanthropist Edith Rockefeller McCormick and President Wilson's
> daughter, Margaret, who, Bahais believe, gave her father twelve of his
> Fourteen Points straight from the writings of Baha'u'llah." [24]
>
> [edit]Contact
> Web:http://www.bahai.org(Haifan organization)
>
> [edit]Resources and articles
> [edit]Related Sourcewatch
> Association for Baha'í Studies
> Gregory C. Dahl
> Universal House of Justice
> Susan Maneck
> Juan Cole
> Margaret Woodrow Wilson
> [edit]References
> ↑ "Babism" Browne, Edward G., Religious Systems of the World: A
> Contribution to the Study of Comparative Religion (London: Swann
> Sonnenschein), pp. 333-53, first published in 1889; this was written
> for a later edition in 1890 and published again in 1901 - Joan Winters-
> Typed and proofread by Graham Sorenson, April 1999.
> ↑ "Bahaism", accessed March 7, 2009
> ↑ About Us Baha'i Faith, accessed September 22, 2007.
> ↑ Juan Cole, "Fundamentalism in the Contemporary U.S. Baha'i
> Community", Religious Studies Review, Vol. 43, no. 3 (March, 2002):
> 195-217, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ↑ Frederick Glaysher, The Baha'i Faith & Religious Freedom of
> Conscience, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ↑ Frederick Glaysher, Nine Denominations, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ↑ Orthodox Bahá'í Faith, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ↑ Bahá'ís Under Provisions of the Covenant , accessed March 5, 2009.
> ↑ Tarbiyat Bahá'í Community, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ↑ Bahá'ís Under the Living Guardianship, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ↑ Baha'i Guardian, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ↑ Reform Bahai's, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ↑ Free Baha'is, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ↑ Unitarian Baha'is, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ↑ Juan Cole, "Fundamentalism in the Contemporary U.S. Baha'i
> Community", Religious Studies Review, Vol. 43, no. 3 (March, 2002):
> 195-217, accessed online March 5, 2009.
> ↑ Judgment in favor of the Orthodox Bahá'í Faith, From the National
> Bahá'í Council of the Orthodox Bahá'ís of the United States, May 2008,
> accessed March 5, 2009.
> ↑ "Contempt Motion by Wilmette NSA against Orthodox Bahá'í Faith:
> Parties await decision of Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals in NSA's
> appeal of decision finding Orthodox Bahá'ís were not in contempt",
> accessed March 5, 2009.
> ↑ "A Just System of Government: The Third Dimension to World Peace",
> Huddleston, John, The Baha'i Faith and Marxism (Ottawa: Baha'i Studies
> Publications, 1987), accessed March 5, 2009.
> ↑ The Works of the Universal House of Justice, accessed March 5,
> 2009.
> ↑ Effendi, Shoghi (1938). "The Goal of a New World Order". The World
> Order of Bahá'u'lláh. Wilmette, Illinois, USA: Bahá'í Publishing
> Trust. pp. 34-35. ISBN 0877432317.
> ↑ "The Promise of Disarmament and Peace", Statement made available to
> delegates of the first special session of the UN General Assembly
> devoted to disarmament, New York USA, June 1982, accessed March 5,
> 2009.
> ↑ Bahá'í International Community. Proposals to the United Nations for
> Charter Revision. May 23, 1955 (quoted from Baha'i World: Turning
> Point For All Nations).
> ↑ Membership of the Universal House of Justice, accessed March 5,
> 2009.
> ↑ Heretics in Islam, Time, accessed March 25, 2009.
>
> Retrieved from "http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Baha
> %27i_Faith"
> Category: Religion
All Bad
2009-03-27 00:29:29 UTC
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AB: You are still parrotting some Bavarian Illuminati conspiracists who
read Texe
Marrs!

"NUR" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:f8c95cb1-3867-49c0-8eac-***@j18g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 26, 10:28 am, NUR <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Baha%27i_Faith
>
> Baha'i Faith
>
> From SourceWatch
>
> The Baha'i Faith is a religion which grew out of Babism.[1] It was
> "founded in Iran in the mid-19th century by Mirza Hoseyn 'Ali Nuri,
> who is known as Baha` Ullah (Arabic: "Glory of God")."[2]. Baha'is
> consider their faith to be "the youngest of the world's independent
> monotheistic religions. Founded in Iran in 1844, it now has more than
> five million adherents in 236 countries and territories. Baha'is come
> from nearly every national, ethnic and religious background, making
> the Baha'i Faith the second-most-widespread religion in the
> world."[3]
>
> Numerous former members of the faith, most notably those adhering to
> the Haifan Baha'i authority, have criticised the organisation for
> engaging in various forms of coercion and authoritarian institutional
> influence upon personal affairs in attempting to curb public criticism
> and dissent amongst its members.[4][5].
>
> Contents [hide]
> 1 Sects, Divisions and Organisations
> 2 The Haifan Baha'i Organisation
> 3 Famous Members
> 4 Contact
> 5 Resources and articles
> 5.1 Related Sourcewatch
> 5.2 References
>
> [edit]Sects, Divisions and Organisations
> In its current state, the Baha'i Faith is divided amongst several
> sects, the most prominent of which is that based in Haifa Israel, and
> affiliated with the Universal House of Justice. At least nine sects
> identify themselves as members of the Baha'i faith.[6]
>
> Orthodox Bahš¢'šª Faith (the OBF Respondents, following Joel B.
> Marangella);[7]
> Bahš¢'šªs Under Provisions of the Covenant (the other Respondents,
> following Leland Jensen).[8]
> The Bahš¢'šª Faith or Bahš¢'šª World Faith (the Movant NSA);
> Tarbiyat Bahš¢'šª Community (formerly known as Orthodox Bahš¢'šªs Under
> the Regency) (Rex King group).[9];
> Bahš¢'šªs Under the living Guardianship [10] (Donald Harvey as the third
> Guardian and Jacques Soghomonian as the fourth Guardian), an
> organization that is the successor to the Remey NSA [11]
> Reform Baha'is[12];
> Free Baha'is[13];
> Unitarian Baha'is[14];
> John Carre ("followers of Alif a Third Manifestation of God - the
> third letter of the Greatest Name")
> Within the Haifan Baha'i organisation, these groups are considered
> dissidents, and amongst the wider Baha'i community there exists a
> significant amount of controversy surrounding the various legitimacy
> and authority claims of these groups.[15]
>
> In 2008, the National Spiritual Assembly of the Bahš¢'šªs of the United
> States (Wilmette NSA), launched unsuccessful legal action on behalf of
> the Haifan Baha'is against the Orthodox Baha'i group, claiming breach
> of an injunction preventing rival groups from using the name "Baha'i"
> and certain related symbology.[16] The National Spiritual Assembly of
> the Bahš¢'šªs of the United States is currently appealing the ruling.
> [17]
>
> [edit]The Haifan Baha'i Organisation
> Based in Haifa, Israel, the Haifan Baha'is operate under the authority
> of the Universal House of Justice Universal House of Justice. The
> faith is then administered country to country by National Spiritual
> Assemblies, and finally by Local Spiritual Assemblies.[18]
>
> The principles and goals to which the Haifan Baha'i Faith claims to
> adhere include [19]:
>
> The Oneness of Mankind
> Universal Peace Independent Investigation of Truth
> The Common Foundation of All Religions
> The Essential Harmony of Science and Religion
> The Equality of Women and Men
> Elimination of Prejudice of All Kinds
> Universal Compulsory Education
> A Spiritual Solution to Economic Problems
> As well as advocating the development and implementation of:
>
> A World Super-State
> A World Legislator
> The unity of all the world's religions under the umbrella of the

AB: I googled "The unity of all the world's religions under the umbrella"
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22The+unity+of+all+the+world%27s+religions+under+the+umbrella%22&btnG=Search
and the phrase is coming from conspiracyarchive.com and
pasted in to SW and then here.
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/social_change_agents.htm In turn,
it looks like the conspiracyarchive.com version is from Tex Marrs. Thus, it
is safe to say that you working off of a cartoon caricature.

- All Bad

> Baha'i Faith
> A World Parliament
> A World Police Force
> A Supreme Tribunal
> Election of leaders through merit alone without nominations (the
> Administrative Order)
> A single Universal Auxiliary Language
> A permanent single currency
> An international uniform tax
> The implementation of Agenda 21 and the Earth Charter
>
> The Haifan Baha'i organization also explicitly refers to the these
> principles as elements of an approaching "New World Order", which is
> understood as a system of beliefs and teachings based upon the life
> and writings of their prophet founder, Bahš¢'u'llš¢h, and comprises a
> set of political, spiritual and social principles which Baha'is
> believe define the correct structure for the unification of mankind.
> [20]
>
> "It is towards this goal -- the goal of a new World Order, Divine in
> origin, all-embracing in scope, equitable in principle, challenging in
> its features -- that a harassed humanity must strive." (From the
> Baha'i Writings).[21]
>
> "In 1955, during the first decade review of the UN charter, the Bahš¢'šª
> International Community offered a statement to the United Nations,
> based on ideas articulated nearly a century before by Bahš¢'u'llš¢h.
> "The Bahš¢'šª concept of world order is defined in these terms: A world
> Super-State in whose favor all the nations of the world will have
> ceded every claim to make war, certain rights to impose taxation and
> all rights to maintain armaments, except for the purposes of
> maintaining internal order within their respective dominions. This
> State will have to include an International Executive adequate to
> enforce supreme and unchallengeable authority on every recalcitrant
> member of the Commonwealth; a World Parliament whose members are
> elected by the peoples in their respective countries and whose
> election is confirmed by their respective governments; a Supreme
> Tribunal whose judgment has a binding effect even in cases where the
> parties concerned have not voluntarily agreed to submit their case to
> its consideration."[22]
>
> However, Haifan Baha'is claim that what they refer to as a "World
> Commonwealth" should not be considered as having any distinct partisan
> political agenda.
>
> Despite its claims to equality between the sexes, women are prevented
> from being elected as members of the Universal House of Justice.[23]
>
> [edit]Famous Members
> In 1955, Time magazine reported that: "Famed Bahais are said to have
> included Queen Marie of Rumania, Actress Carole Lombard,
> Philanthropist Edith Rockefeller McCormick and President Wilson's
> daughter, Margaret, who, Bahais believe, gave her father twelve of his
> Fourteen Points straight from the writings of Baha'u'llah." [24]
>
> [edit]Contact
> Web:http://www.bahai.org(Haifan organization)
>
> [edit]Resources and articles
> [edit]Related Sourcewatch
> Association for Baha'šª Studies
> Gregory C. Dahl
> Universal House of Justice
> Susan Maneck
> Juan Cole
> Margaret Woodrow Wilson
> [edit]References
> ¡ü "Babism" Browne, Edward G., Religious Systems of the World: A
> Contribution to the Study of Comparative Religion (London: Swann
> Sonnenschein), pp. 333-53, first published in 1889; this was written
> for a later edition in 1890 and published again in 1901 - Joan Winters-
> Typed and proofread by Graham Sorenson, April 1999.
> ¡ü "Bahaism", accessed March 7, 2009
> ¡ü About Us Baha'i Faith, accessed September 22, 2007.
> ¡ü Juan Cole, "Fundamentalism in the Contemporary U.S. Baha'i
> Community", Religious Studies Review, Vol. 43, no. 3 (March, 2002):
> 195-217, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ¡ü Frederick Glaysher, The Baha'i Faith & Religious Freedom of
> Conscience, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ¡ü Frederick Glaysher, Nine Denominations, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ¡ü Orthodox Bahš¢'šª Faith, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ¡ü Bahš¢'šªs Under Provisions of the Covenant , accessed March 5, 2009.
> ¡ü Tarbiyat Bahš¢'šª Community, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ¡ü Bahš¢'šªs Under the Living Guardianship, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ¡ü Baha'i Guardian, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ¡ü Reform Bahai's, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ¡ü Free Baha'is, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ¡ü Unitarian Baha'is, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ¡ü Juan Cole, "Fundamentalism in the Contemporary U.S. Baha'i
> Community", Religious Studies Review, Vol. 43, no. 3 (March, 2002):
> 195-217, accessed online March 5, 2009.
> ¡ü Judgment in favor of the Orthodox Bahš¢'šª Faith, From the National
> Bahš¢'šª Council of the Orthodox Bahš¢'šªs of the United States, May 2008,
> accessed March 5, 2009.
> ¡ü "Contempt Motion by Wilmette NSA against Orthodox Bahš¢'šª Faith:
> Parties await decision of Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals in NSA's
> appeal of decision finding Orthodox Bahš¢'šªs were not in contempt",
> accessed March 5, 2009.
> ¡ü "A Just System of Government: The Third Dimension to World Peace",
> Huddleston, John, The Baha'i Faith and Marxism (Ottawa: Baha'i Studies
> Publications, 1987), accessed March 5, 2009.
> ¡ü The Works of the Universal House of Justice, accessed March 5,
> 2009.
> ¡ü Effendi, Shoghi (1938). "The Goal of a New World Order". The World
> Order of Bahš¢'u'llš¢h. Wilmette, Illinois, USA: Bahš¢'šª Publishing
> Trust. pp. 34-35. ISBN 0877432317.
> ¡ü "The Promise of Disarmament and Peace", Statement made available to
> delegates of the first special session of the UN General Assembly
> devoted to disarmament, New York USA, June 1982, accessed March 5,
> 2009.
> ¡ü Bahš¢'šª International Community. Proposals to the United Nations for
> Charter Revision. May 23, 1955 (quoted from Baha'i World: Turning
> Point For All Nations).
> ¡ü Membership of the Universal House of Justice, accessed March 5,
> 2009.
> ¡ü Heretics in Islam, Time, accessed March 25, 2009.
>
> Retrieved from "http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Baha
> %27i_Faith"
> Category: Religion
NUR
2009-03-27 05:10:06 UTC
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On Mar 27, 10:29 am, "All Bad" <***@md.metrocast.net>
wrote:
> AB:  You are still parrotting some Bavarian Illuminati conspiracists who
> read Texe
> Marrs!

Funny, the history tab shows that you, aka OWEN, put the illuminati
conspiracy link into that article, not us, and then had the temerity
to complain about its inclusion as somehow making the article non-
credible. BUT IT WAS _YOU YOURSELF_ WHO PUT THE LINK IN!


As soon as one thinks one has gotten a handle on the depth of your
core dishonesty and duplicity, you do something like this which
reinforces the truth that your core dishonesty and duplicity really
has no depth!

W
NUR
2009-03-27 05:47:29 UTC
Permalink
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Bob_Burton

Baha'i Faith Page

Hi Bob, As you think you've picked up on form your revert edit,it
seems that user Owen may have actually inserted the reference to a
dubious source in order to paint the inclusion of this article as
'conspiratorial'. Just for clarification on this issue, I have ensured
that all phrases/terminology used are directly quotable from Baha'i/
Baha'i related sources, including 'world police', "World Super
State"(here for example http://reference.bahai.org/en/t/se/WOB/wob-20.html),
"World Legislator" "World Parliament", etc, so any claims of unfair
emphasis on 'federalism' or a 'pro-world government agenda' are
utterly unfounded, as these professed values/ideologies are coming
straight from the horses mouth! I have tried to be as scrupulous as
possible about referencing, and will put up more sources from Baha'i,
or Baha'i affiliated authors if need be. Even if you look at the
reference which user Owen has a problem with, which it appears he
actually added himself [www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/
social_change_agents.htm#AO World Government Fronts, Psycho-social
Change Agents], this source also quotes primary Baha'i sources which
employ EXACTLY the same terminology (for example,
http://bahai-library.com/introductory/warwick/newworld.html) as this
so-called 'conspiratorial' article. Thanks for keeping an eye on this.
Cheers --Atomised 00:10, 27 March 2009 (EDT)

Hi again Bob,

I've begun adding in even more references directly from Baha'i
sources, including for individual bulleted points. I believe Owen has
attempted to claim this page is in some way 'progaganda', and I
imagine there may be numerous future attempts at altering information
on it to cast it in that light. As my research suggests, attempting to
curb criticism in this way has also been an issue with this
organization in the past. Cheers --Atomised 01:35, 27 March 2009
(EDT)
NUR
2009-03-27 06:43:39 UTC
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NOTE

From Mission Problems in New Persia, 1926, p. 83, 87 & 89 quoted by
William McElwee Miller in The Baha'i Faith: It's History and
Teachings, 1973, p. 289.

"...There is no conscience with them [ i.e. the Baha'is], they keep
to no principle, they tell you what is untrue, ignoring or denying
undoubted historical facts, and this is the character of both the
leader and the led...As to morality and honesty, the whole system has
proved disappointing...I have been in contact with many Baha'is, and
have had dealings with many and have tested many, and unfortunately I
have met not a single one who could be called honest or faithful in
the full sense of these words..."


Dr Sa'eed Khan [was] a highly-respected physician...who had as a
doctor treated the second widow of the Bab, and had for a lifetime
known intimately both Babis [i.e. Bayanis] and Baha'is in Tehran and
Hamadan.



On Mar 27, 3:47 pm, NUR <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Bob_Burton
>
> Baha'i Faith Page
>
> Hi Bob, As you think you've picked up on form your revert edit,it
> seems that user Owen may have actually inserted the reference to a
> dubious source in order to paint the inclusion of this article as
> 'conspiratorial'. Just for clarification on this issue, I have ensured
> that all phrases/terminology used are directly quotable from Baha'i/
> Baha'i related sources, including 'world police', "World Super
> State"(here for examplehttp://reference.bahai.org/en/t/se/WOB/wob-20.html),
> "World Legislator" "World Parliament", etc, so any claims of unfair
> emphasis on 'federalism' or a 'pro-world government agenda' are
> utterly unfounded, as these professed values/ideologies are coming
> straight from the horses mouth! I have tried to be as scrupulous as
> possible about referencing, and will put up more sources from Baha'i,
> or Baha'i affiliated authors if need be. Even if you look at the
> reference which user Owen has a problem with, which it appears he
> actually added himself [www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/
> social_change_agents.htm#AO World Government Fronts, Psycho-social
> Change Agents], this source also quotes primary Baha'i sources which
> employ EXACTLY the same terminology (for example,http://bahai-library.com/introductory/warwick/newworld.html) as this
> so-called 'conspiratorial' article. Thanks for keeping an eye on this.
> Cheers --Atomised 00:10, 27 March 2009 (EDT)
>
> Hi again Bob,
>
> I've begun adding in even more references directly from Baha'i
> sources, including for individual bulleted points. I believe Owen has
> attempted to claim this page is in some way 'progaganda', and I
> imagine there may be numerous future attempts at altering information
> on it to cast it in that light. As my research suggests, attempting to
> curb criticism in this way has also been an issue with this
> organization in the past. Cheers --Atomised 01:35, 27 March 2009
> (EDT)
All Bad
2009-03-27 09:53:11 UTC
Permalink
AB: The "World Government Fronts, Psycho-social Change Agents" web page at
conspiracy.archive lists these things as elements of the AO of the BF:
a.. A World Super-State
a.. A World Legislator
a.. A World Parliament
a.. A World Police Force
a.. A Supreme Tribunal
a.. Election of leaders through merit alone without nominations or the
democratic process (the Administrative Order)
a.. A single Universal Language
a.. A permanent single currency
a.. An international uniform tax
a.. The implementation of Agenda 21 and the Earth Charter
a.. The unity of all the world's religions under the umbrella of the Baha'i
Faith
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/social_change_agents.htm#AO


AB: At the "Online Dating Rights" thread Re: Ex-Bahais discuss the CULT and
its plans for WORLD DOMINATION, Frank Johnson posts in this URL and the
bulleted list on 28 January. You are in that discussion as truthseeker and
MaybeIam is there as well.

AB: On 5 March Atomised added in that list.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Baha%27i_Faith&diff=409044&oldid=331975
to the article on the BF at sourcewatch.org.

AB: So, now where does the sourcewatch.org article reference the source
used?

AB: I have this odd suspicion that someone there was trying to help you, but
your paranoid self will have none of it. Trust your schizoid self more, and
your paranoid self less.

Good luck lasting there until June!
- All Bad

"NUR" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Mar 27, 10:29 am, "All Bad" <***@md.metrocast.net>
wrote:
> AB: You are still parrotting some Bavarian Illuminati conspiracists who
> read Texe
> Marrs!

Funny, the history tab shows that you, aka OWEN, put the illuminati
conspiracy link into that article, not us, and then had the temerity
to complain about its inclusion as somehow making the article non-
credible. BUT IT WAS _YOU YOURSELF_ WHO PUT THE LINK IN!


As soon as one thinks one has gotten a handle on the depth of your
core dishonesty and duplicity, you do something like this which
reinforces the truth that your core dishonesty and duplicity really
has no depth!

W
m***@gmail.com
2009-03-27 10:11:57 UTC
Permalink
On Mar 27, 7:53 pm, "All Bad" <***@md.metrocast.net>
wrote:
> AB:  The "World Government Fronts, Psycho-social Change Agents" web page at
> conspiracy.archive lists these things as elements of the AO of the BF:
> a.. A World Super-State
> a.. A World Legislator
> a.. A World Parliament
> a.. A World Police Force
> a.. A Supreme Tribunal
> a.. Election of leaders through merit alone without nominations or the
> democratic process (the Administrative Order)
> a.. A single Universal Language
> a.. A permanent single currency
> a.. An international uniform tax
> a.. The implementation of Agenda 21 and the Earth Charter
> a.. The unity of all the world's religions under the umbrella of the Baha'i
> Faithhttp://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/social_change_agents.htm#AO
>
> AB:  At the "Online Dating Rights" thread Re: Ex-Bahais discuss the CULT and
> its plans for WORLD DOMINATION, Frank Johnson posts in this URL and the
> bulleted list on 28 January.  You are in that discussion as truthseeker and
> MaybeIam is there as well.
>
> AB:  On 5 March Atomised added in that list.http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Baha%27i_Faith&diff=409044...
> to the article on the BF at sourcewatch.org.
>
> AB:  So, now where does the sourcewatch.org article reference the source
> used?
>
> AB: I have this odd suspicion that someone there was trying to help you, but
> your paranoid self will have none of it. Trust your schizoid self more, and
> your paranoid self less.
>
> Good luck lasting there until June!

You really have no business calling anyone crazy, Pat. Sort yourself
out.

> - All Bad
>
> "NUR" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:d203018f-fbe0-4f24-b08e-***@c18g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 27, 10:29 am, "All Bad" <***@md.metrocast.net>
> wrote:
>
> > AB: You are still parrotting some Bavarian Illuminati conspiracists who
> > read Texe
> > Marrs!
>
> Funny, the history tab shows that you, aka OWEN, put the illuminati
> conspiracy link into that article, not us, and then had the temerity
> to complain about its inclusion as somehow making the article non-
> credible. BUT IT WAS _YOU YOURSELF_ WHO PUT THE LINK IN!
>
> As soon as one thinks one has gotten a handle on the depth of your
> core dishonesty and duplicity, you do something like this which
> reinforces the truth that your core dishonesty and duplicity really
> has no depth!
>
> W
All Bad
2009-03-28 00:29:56 UTC
Permalink
<***@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:6350ff85-5f42-495f-b237-***@v19g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 27, 7:53 pm, "All Bad" <***@md.metrocast.net>
wrote:
> AB: The "World Government Fronts, Psycho-social Change Agents" web page at
> conspiracy.archive lists these things as elements of the AO of the BF:
> a.. A World Super-State
> a.. A World Legislator
> a.. A World Parliament
> a.. A World Police Force
> a.. A Supreme Tribunal
> a.. Election of leaders through merit alone without nominations or the
> democratic process (the Administrative Order)
> a.. A single Universal Language
> a.. A permanent single currency
> a.. An international uniform tax
> a.. The implementation of Agenda 21 and the Earth Charter
> a.. The unity of all the world's religions under the umbrella of the
> Baha'i
> Faithhttp://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/social_change_agents.htm#AO
>
> AB: At the "Online Dating Rights" thread Re: Ex-Bahais discuss the CULT
> and
> its plans for WORLD DOMINATION, Frank Johnson posts in this URL and the
> bulleted list on 28 January. You are in that discussion as truthseeker and
> MaybeIam is there as well.
>
> AB: On 5 March Atomised added in that
> list.http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Baha%27i_Faith&diff=409044...
> to the article on the BF at sourcewatch.org.
>
> AB: So, now where does the sourcewatch.org article reference the source
> used?
>
> AB: I have this odd suspicion that someone there was trying to help you,
> but
> your paranoid self will have none of it. Trust your schizoid self more,
> and
> your paranoid self less.
>
> Good luck lasting there until June!

MIA1: You really have no business calling anyone crazy, Pat. Sort yourself
out.

AB: Bill, Bill, is it really you? Who is this Pat you are talking to?

AB: Do you know Atomiser? Are you Atomiser? Why is Atomiser copying from
"World Government Fronts, Psycho-social Change Agents" web page at
conspiracy.archive, and pasting in to Sourcewatch.org? Is there an
expectation that SW is really just another foaming, raving internet kook
site, eXposing the Bavarian Illuminati, etc. But you don't see internet
kooks at large, do you?

- All Bad

> "NUR" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:d203018f-fbe0-4f24-b08e-***@c18g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 27, 10:29 am, "All Bad" <***@md.metrocast.net>
> wrote:
>
> > AB: You are still parrotting some Bavarian Illuminati conspiracists who
> > read Texe
> > Marrs!
>
> Funny, the history tab shows that you, aka OWEN, put the illuminati
> conspiracy link into that article, not us, and then had the temerity
> to complain about its inclusion as somehow making the article non-
> credible. BUT IT WAS _YOU YOURSELF_ WHO PUT THE LINK IN!
>
> As soon as one thinks one has gotten a handle on the depth of your
> core dishonesty and duplicity, you do something like this which
> reinforces the truth that your core dishonesty and duplicity really
> has no depth!
>
> W
NUR
2009-03-27 00:32:30 UTC
Permalink
On Mar 26, 10:28 am, NUR <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Baha%27i_Faith
>
> Baha'i Faith
>
> From SourceWatch
>
> The Baha'i Faith is a religion which grew out of Babism.[1] It was
> "founded in Iran in the mid-19th century by Mirza Hoseyn 'Ali Nuri,
> who is known as Baha` Ullah (Arabic: "Glory of God")."[2]. Baha'is
> consider their faith to be "the youngest of the world's independent
> monotheistic religions. Founded in Iran in 1844, it now has more than
> five million adherents in 236 countries and territories. Baha'is come
> from nearly every national, ethnic and religious background, making
> the Baha'i Faith the second-most-widespread religion in the
> world."[3]
>
> Numerous former members of the faith, most notably those adhering to
> the Haifan Baha'i authority, have criticised the organisation for
> engaging in various forms of coercion and authoritarian institutional
> influence upon personal affairs in attempting to curb public criticism
> and dissent amongst its members.[4][5].
>
> Contents [hide]
> 1 Sects, Divisions and Organisations
> 2 The Haifan Baha'i Organisation
> 3 Famous Members
> 4 Contact
> 5 Resources and articles
> 5.1 Related Sourcewatch
> 5.2 References
>
> [edit]Sects, Divisions and Organisations
> In its current state, the Baha'i Faith is divided amongst several
> sects, the most prominent of which is that based in Haifa Israel, and
> affiliated with the Universal House of Justice. At least nine sects
> identify themselves as members of the Baha'i faith.[6]
>
> Orthodox Bahá'í Faith (the OBF Respondents, following Joel B.
> Marangella);[7]
> Bahá'ís Under Provisions of the Covenant (the other Respondents,
> following Leland Jensen).[8]
> The Bahá'í Faith or Bahá'í World Faith (the Movant NSA);
> Tarbiyat Bahá'í Community (formerly known as Orthodox Bahá'ís Under
> the Regency) (Rex King group).[9];
> Bahá'ís Under the living Guardianship [10] (Donald Harvey as the third
> Guardian and Jacques Soghomonian as the fourth Guardian), an
> organization that is the successor to the Remey NSA [11]
> Reform Baha'is[12];
> Free Baha'is[13];
> Unitarian Baha'is[14];
> John Carre ("followers of Alif a Third Manifestation of God - the
> third letter of the Greatest Name")
> Within the Haifan Baha'i organisation, these groups are considered
> dissidents, and amongst the wider Baha'i community there exists a
> significant amount of controversy surrounding the various legitimacy
> and authority claims of these groups.[15]
>
> In 2008, the National Spiritual Assembly of the Bahá'ís of the United
> States (Wilmette NSA), launched unsuccessful legal action on behalf of
> the Haifan Baha'is against the Orthodox Baha'i group, claiming breach
> of an injunction preventing rival groups from using the name "Baha'i"
> and certain related symbology.[16] The National Spiritual Assembly of
> the Bahá'ís of the United States is currently appealing the ruling.
> [17]
>
> [edit]The Haifan Baha'i Organisation
> Based in Haifa, Israel, the Haifan Baha'is operate under the authority
> of the Universal House of Justice Universal House of Justice. The
> faith is then administered country to country by National Spiritual
> Assemblies, and finally by Local Spiritual Assemblies.[18]
>
> The principles and goals to which the Haifan Baha'i Faith claims to
> adhere include [19]:
>
> The Oneness of Mankind
> Universal Peace Independent Investigation of Truth
> The Common Foundation of All Religions
> The Essential Harmony of Science and Religion
> The Equality of Women and Men
> Elimination of Prejudice of All Kinds
> Universal Compulsory Education
> A Spiritual Solution to Economic Problems
> As well as advocating the development and implementation of:
>
> A World Super-State
> A World Legislator
> The unity of all the world's religions under the umbrella of the
> Baha'i Faith
> A World Parliament
> A World Police Force
> A Supreme Tribunal
> Election of leaders through merit alone without nominations (the
> Administrative Order)
> A single Universal Auxiliary Language
> A permanent single currency
> An international uniform tax
> The implementation of Agenda 21 and the Earth Charter
>
> The Haifan Baha'i organization also explicitly refers to the these
> principles as elements of an approaching "New World Order", which is
> understood as a system of beliefs and teachings based upon the life
> and writings of their prophet founder, Bahá'u'lláh, and comprises a
> set of political, spiritual and social principles which Baha'is
> believe define the correct structure for the unification of mankind.
> [20]
>
> "It is towards this goal -- the goal of a new World Order, Divine in
> origin, all-embracing in scope, equitable in principle, challenging in
> its features -- that a harassed humanity must strive." (From the
> Baha'i Writings).[21]
>
> "In 1955, during the first decade review of the UN charter, the Bahá'í
> International Community offered a statement to the United Nations,
> based on ideas articulated nearly a century before by Bahá'u'lláh.
> "The Bahá'í concept of world order is defined in these terms: A world
> Super-State in whose favor all the nations of the world will have
> ceded every claim to make war, certain rights to impose taxation and
> all rights to maintain armaments, except for the purposes of
> maintaining internal order within their respective dominions. This
> State will have to include an International Executive adequate to
> enforce supreme and unchallengeable authority on every recalcitrant
> member of the Commonwealth; a World Parliament whose members are
> elected by the peoples in their respective countries and whose
> election is confirmed by their respective governments; a Supreme
> Tribunal whose judgment has a binding effect even in cases where the
> parties concerned have not voluntarily agreed to submit their case to
> its consideration."[22]
>
> However, Haifan Baha'is claim that what they refer to as a "World
> Commonwealth" should not be considered as having any distinct partisan
> political agenda.
>
> Despite its claims to equality between the sexes, women are prevented
> from being elected as members of the Universal House of Justice.[23]
>
> [edit]Famous Members
> In 1955, Time magazine reported that: "Famed Bahais are said to have
> included Queen Marie of Rumania, Actress Carole Lombard,
> Philanthropist Edith Rockefeller McCormick and President Wilson's
> daughter, Margaret, who, Bahais believe, gave her father twelve of his
> Fourteen Points straight from the writings of Baha'u'llah." [24]
>
> [edit]Contact
> Web:http://www.bahai.org(Haifan organization)
>
> [edit]Resources and articles
> [edit]Related Sourcewatch
> Association for Baha'í Studies
> Gregory C. Dahl
> Universal House of Justice
> Susan Maneck
> Juan Cole
> Margaret Woodrow Wilson
> [edit]References
> ↑ "Babism" Browne, Edward G., Religious Systems of the World: A
> Contribution to the Study of Comparative Religion (London: Swann
> Sonnenschein), pp. 333-53, first published in 1889; this was written
> for a later edition in 1890 and published again in 1901 - Joan Winters-
> Typed and proofread by Graham Sorenson, April 1999.
> ↑ "Bahaism", accessed March 7, 2009
> ↑ About Us Baha'i Faith, accessed September 22, 2007.
> ↑ Juan Cole, "Fundamentalism in the Contemporary U.S. Baha'i
> Community", Religious Studies Review, Vol. 43, no. 3 (March, 2002):
> 195-217, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ↑ Frederick Glaysher, The Baha'i Faith & Religious Freedom of
> Conscience, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ↑ Frederick Glaysher, Nine Denominations, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ↑ Orthodox Bahá'í Faith, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ↑ Bahá'ís Under Provisions of the Covenant , accessed March 5, 2009.
> ↑ Tarbiyat Bahá'í Community, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ↑ Bahá'ís Under the Living Guardianship, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ↑ Baha'i Guardian, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ↑ Reform Bahai's, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ↑ Free Baha'is, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ↑ Unitarian Baha'is, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ↑ Juan Cole, "Fundamentalism in the Contemporary U.S. Baha'i
> Community", Religious Studies Review, Vol. 43, no. 3 (March, 2002):
> 195-217, accessed online March 5, 2009.
> ↑ Judgment in favor of the Orthodox Bahá'í Faith, From the National
> Bahá'í Council of the Orthodox Bahá'ís of the United States, May 2008,
> accessed March 5, 2009.
> ↑ "Contempt Motion by Wilmette NSA against Orthodox Bahá'í Faith:
> Parties await decision of Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals in NSA's
> appeal of decision finding Orthodox Bahá'ís were not in contempt",
> accessed March 5, 2009.
> ↑ "A Just System of Government: The Third Dimension to World Peace",
> Huddleston, John, The Baha'i Faith and Marxism (Ottawa: Baha'i Studies
> Publications, 1987), accessed March 5, 2009.
> ↑ The Works of the Universal House of Justice, accessed March 5,
> 2009.
> ↑ Effendi, Shoghi (1938). "The Goal of a New World Order". The World
> Order of Bahá'u'lláh. Wilmette, Illinois, USA: Bahá'í Publishing
> Trust. pp. 34-35. ISBN 0877432317.
> ↑ "The Promise of Disarmament and Peace", Statement made available to
> delegates of the first special session of the UN General Assembly
> devoted to disarmament, New York USA, June 1982, accessed March 5,
> 2009.
> ↑ Bahá'í International Community. Proposals to the United Nations for
> Charter Revision. May 23, 1955 (quoted from Baha'i World: Turning
> Point For All Nations).
> ↑ Membership of the Universal House of Justice, accessed March 5,
> 2009.
> ↑ Heretics in Islam, Time, accessed March 25, 2009.
>
> Retrieved from "http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Baha
> %27i_Faith"
> Category: Religion
All Bad
2009-03-27 00:37:13 UTC
Permalink
AB: You are still parrotting some Bavarian Illuminati conspiracists who
cite Texe Marrs as if he were a respected source, not a glaze eyed fanatic,
like you!

"NUR" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:505f169b-6975-4cc7-9b2a-***@z16g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 26, 10:28 am, NUR <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Baha%27i_Faith
>
> Baha'i Faith
>
> From SourceWatch
>
> The Baha'i Faith is a religion which grew out of Babism.[1] It was
> "founded in Iran in the mid-19th century by Mirza Hoseyn 'Ali Nuri,
> who is known as Baha` Ullah (Arabic: "Glory of God")."[2]. Baha'is
> consider their faith to be "the youngest of the world's independent
> monotheistic religions. Founded in Iran in 1844, it now has more than
> five million adherents in 236 countries and territories. Baha'is come
> from nearly every national, ethnic and religious background, making
> the Baha'i Faith the second-most-widespread religion in the
> world."[3]
>
> Numerous former members of the faith, most notably those adhering to
> the Haifan Baha'i authority, have criticised the organisation for
> engaging in various forms of coercion and authoritarian institutional
> influence upon personal affairs in attempting to curb public criticism
> and dissent amongst its members.[4][5].
>
> Contents [hide]
> 1 Sects, Divisions and Organisations
> 2 The Haifan Baha'i Organisation
> 3 Famous Members
> 4 Contact
> 5 Resources and articles
> 5.1 Related Sourcewatch
> 5.2 References
>
> [edit]Sects, Divisions and Organisations
> In its current state, the Baha'i Faith is divided amongst several
> sects, the most prominent of which is that based in Haifa Israel, and
> affiliated with the Universal House of Justice. At least nine sects
> identify themselves as members of the Baha'i faith.[6]
>
> Orthodox Bahš¢'šª Faith (the OBF Respondents, following Joel B.
> Marangella);[7]
> Bahš¢'šªs Under Provisions of the Covenant (the other Respondents,
> following Leland Jensen).[8]
> The Bahš¢'šª Faith or Bahš¢'šª World Faith (the Movant NSA);
> Tarbiyat Bahš¢'šª Community (formerly known as Orthodox Bahš¢'šªs Under
> the Regency) (Rex King group).[9];
> Bahš¢'šªs Under the living Guardianship [10] (Donald Harvey as the third
> Guardian and Jacques Soghomonian as the fourth Guardian), an
> organization that is the successor to the Remey NSA [11]
> Reform Baha'is[12];
> Free Baha'is[13];
> Unitarian Baha'is[14];
> John Carre ("followers of Alif a Third Manifestation of God - the
> third letter of the Greatest Name")
> Within the Haifan Baha'i organisation, these groups are considered
> dissidents, and amongst the wider Baha'i community there exists a
> significant amount of controversy surrounding the various legitimacy
> and authority claims of these groups.[15]
>
> In 2008, the National Spiritual Assembly of the Bahš¢'šªs of the United
> States (Wilmette NSA), launched unsuccessful legal action on behalf of
> the Haifan Baha'is against the Orthodox Baha'i group, claiming breach
> of an injunction preventing rival groups from using the name "Baha'i"
> and certain related symbology.[16] The National Spiritual Assembly of
> the Bahš¢'šªs of the United States is currently appealing the ruling.
> [17]
>
> [edit]The Haifan Baha'i Organisation
> Based in Haifa, Israel, the Haifan Baha'is operate under the authority
> of the Universal House of Justice Universal House of Justice. The
> faith is then administered country to country by National Spiritual
> Assemblies, and finally by Local Spiritual Assemblies.[18]
>
> The principles and goals to which the Haifan Baha'i Faith claims to
> adhere include [19]:
>
> The Oneness of Mankind
> Universal Peace Independent Investigation of Truth
> The Common Foundation of All Religions
> The Essential Harmony of Science and Religion
> The Equality of Women and Men
> Elimination of Prejudice of All Kinds
> Universal Compulsory Education
> A Spiritual Solution to Economic Problems
> As well as advocating the development and implementation of:
>
> A World Super-State
> A World Legislator
> The unity of all the world's religions under the umbrella of the

AB: I googled "The unity of all the world's religions under the umbrella"
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22The+unity+of+all+the+world%27s+religions+under+the+umbrella%22&btnG=Search
and the phrase is coming from conspiracyarchive.com and
pasted in to SW and then here.
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/social_change_agents.htm In turn,
it looks like the conspiracyarchive.com version is from Tex Marrs. Thus, it
is safe to say that you working off of a cartoon caricature.

AB: So, you return to one scene of your propaganda crimes to gloat, but
what about Bob and Diane? Do they look in here? What are they going to say
when they figure out who you are parrotting, propagandist? Will you last
until June, smearing lies all over sourcewatch.org?

- All Bad

> Baha'i Faith
> A World Parliament
> A World Police Force
> A Supreme Tribunal
> Election of leaders through merit alone without nominations (the
> Administrative Order)
> A single Universal Auxiliary Language
> A permanent single currency
> An international uniform tax
> The implementation of Agenda 21 and the Earth Charter
>
> The Haifan Baha'i organization also explicitly refers to the these
> principles as elements of an approaching "New World Order", which is
> understood as a system of beliefs and teachings based upon the life
> and writings of their prophet founder, Bahš¢'u'llš¢h, and comprises a
> set of political, spiritual and social principles which Baha'is
> believe define the correct structure for the unification of mankind.
> [20]
>
> "It is towards this goal -- the goal of a new World Order, Divine in
> origin, all-embracing in scope, equitable in principle, challenging in
> its features -- that a harassed humanity must strive." (From the
> Baha'i Writings).[21]
>
> "In 1955, during the first decade review of the UN charter, the Bahš¢'šª
> International Community offered a statement to the United Nations,
> based on ideas articulated nearly a century before by Bahš¢'u'llš¢h.
> "The Bahš¢'šª concept of world order is defined in these terms: A world
> Super-State in whose favor all the nations of the world will have
> ceded every claim to make war, certain rights to impose taxation and
> all rights to maintain armaments, except for the purposes of
> maintaining internal order within their respective dominions. This
> State will have to include an International Executive adequate to
> enforce supreme and unchallengeable authority on every recalcitrant
> member of the Commonwealth; a World Parliament whose members are
> elected by the peoples in their respective countries and whose
> election is confirmed by their respective governments; a Supreme
> Tribunal whose judgment has a binding effect even in cases where the
> parties concerned have not voluntarily agreed to submit their case to
> its consideration."[22]
>
> However, Haifan Baha'is claim that what they refer to as a "World
> Commonwealth" should not be considered as having any distinct partisan
> political agenda.
>
> Despite its claims to equality between the sexes, women are prevented
> from being elected as members of the Universal House of Justice.[23]
>
> [edit]Famous Members
> In 1955, Time magazine reported that: "Famed Bahais are said to have
> included Queen Marie of Rumania, Actress Carole Lombard,
> Philanthropist Edith Rockefeller McCormick and President Wilson's
> daughter, Margaret, who, Bahais believe, gave her father twelve of his
> Fourteen Points straight from the writings of Baha'u'llah." [24]
>
> [edit]Contact
> Web:http://www.bahai.org(Haifan organization)
>
> [edit]Resources and articles
> [edit]Related Sourcewatch
> Association for Baha'šª Studies
> Gregory C. Dahl
> Universal House of Justice
> Susan Maneck
> Juan Cole
> Margaret Woodrow Wilson
> [edit]References
> ¡ü "Babism" Browne, Edward G., Religious Systems of the World: A
> Contribution to the Study of Comparative Religion (London: Swann
> Sonnenschein), pp. 333-53, first published in 1889; this was written
> for a later edition in 1890 and published again in 1901 - Joan Winters-
> Typed and proofread by Graham Sorenson, April 1999.
> ¡ü "Bahaism", accessed March 7, 2009
> ¡ü About Us Baha'i Faith, accessed September 22, 2007.
> ¡ü Juan Cole, "Fundamentalism in the Contemporary U.S. Baha'i
> Community", Religious Studies Review, Vol. 43, no. 3 (March, 2002):
> 195-217, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ¡ü Frederick Glaysher, The Baha'i Faith & Religious Freedom of
> Conscience, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ¡ü Frederick Glaysher, Nine Denominations, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ¡ü Orthodox Bahš¢'šª Faith, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ¡ü Bahš¢'šªs Under Provisions of the Covenant , accessed March 5, 2009.
> ¡ü Tarbiyat Bahš¢'šª Community, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ¡ü Bahš¢'šªs Under the Living Guardianship, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ¡ü Baha'i Guardian, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ¡ü Reform Bahai's, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ¡ü Free Baha'is, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ¡ü Unitarian Baha'is, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ¡ü Juan Cole, "Fundamentalism in the Contemporary U.S. Baha'i
> Community", Religious Studies Review, Vol. 43, no. 3 (March, 2002):
> 195-217, accessed online March 5, 2009.
> ¡ü Judgment in favor of the Orthodox Bahš¢'šª Faith, From the National
> Bahš¢'šª Council of the Orthodox Bahš¢'šªs of the United States, May 2008,
> accessed March 5, 2009.
> ¡ü "Contempt Motion by Wilmette NSA against Orthodox Bahš¢'šª Faith:
> Parties await decision of Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals in NSA's
> appeal of decision finding Orthodox Bahš¢'šªs were not in contempt",
> accessed March 5, 2009.
> ¡ü "A Just System of Government: The Third Dimension to World Peace",
> Huddleston, John, The Baha'i Faith and Marxism (Ottawa: Baha'i Studies
> Publications, 1987), accessed March 5, 2009.
> ¡ü The Works of the Universal House of Justice, accessed March 5,
> 2009.
> ¡ü Effendi, Shoghi (1938). "The Goal of a New World Order". The World
> Order of Bahš¢'u'llš¢h. Wilmette, Illinois, USA: Bahš¢'šª Publishing
> Trust. pp. 34-35. ISBN 0877432317.
> ¡ü "The Promise of Disarmament and Peace", Statement made available to
> delegates of the first special session of the UN General Assembly
> devoted to disarmament, New York USA, June 1982, accessed March 5,
> 2009.
> ¡ü Bahš¢'šª International Community. Proposals to the United Nations for
> Charter Revision. May 23, 1955 (quoted from Baha'i World: Turning
> Point For All Nations).
> ¡ü Membership of the Universal House of Justice, accessed March 5,
> 2009.
> ¡ü Heretics in Islam, Time, accessed March 25, 2009.
>
> Retrieved from "http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Baha
> %27i_Faith"
> Category: Religion
Seon Ferguson
2009-03-27 01:02:12 UTC
Permalink
This could go on and on and on...

"All Bad" <***@md.metrocast.net> wrote in message
news:***@metrocastcablevision.com...
> AB: You are still parrotting some Bavarian Illuminati conspiracists who
> cite Texe Marrs as if he were a respected source, not a glaze eyed
> fanatic, like you!
>
> "NUR" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:505f169b-6975-4cc7-9b2a-***@z16g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 26, 10:28 am, NUR <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>> http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Baha%27i_Faith
>>
>> Baha'i Faith
>>
>> From SourceWatch
>>
>> The Baha'i Faith is a religion which grew out of Babism.[1] It was
>> "founded in Iran in the mid-19th century by Mirza Hoseyn 'Ali Nuri,
>> who is known as Baha` Ullah (Arabic: "Glory of God")."[2]. Baha'is
>> consider their faith to be "the youngest of the world's independent
>> monotheistic religions. Founded in Iran in 1844, it now has more than
>> five million adherents in 236 countries and territories. Baha'is come
>> from nearly every national, ethnic and religious background, making
>> the Baha'i Faith the second-most-widespread religion in the
>> world."[3]
>>
>> Numerous former members of the faith, most notably those adhering to
>> the Haifan Baha'i authority, have criticised the organisation for
>> engaging in various forms of coercion and authoritarian institutional
>> influence upon personal affairs in attempting to curb public criticism
>> and dissent amongst its members.[4][5].
>>
>> Contents [hide]
>> 1 Sects, Divisions and Organisations
>> 2 The Haifan Baha'i Organisation
>> 3 Famous Members
>> 4 Contact
>> 5 Resources and articles
>> 5.1 Related Sourcewatch
>> 5.2 References
>>
>> [edit]Sects, Divisions and Organisations
>> In its current state, the Baha'i Faith is divided amongst several
>> sects, the most prominent of which is that based in Haifa Israel, and
>> affiliated with the Universal House of Justice. At least nine sects
>> identify themselves as members of the Baha'i faith.[6]
>>
>> Orthodox Bah¨¢'¨ª Faith (the OBF Respondents, following Joel B.
>> Marangella);[7]
>> Bah¨¢'¨ªs Under Provisions of the Covenant (the other Respondents,
>> following Leland Jensen).[8]
>> The Bah¨¢'¨ª Faith or Bah¨¢'¨ª World Faith (the Movant NSA);
>> Tarbiyat Bah¨¢'¨ª Community (formerly known as Orthodox Bah¨¢'¨ªs Under
>> the Regency) (Rex King group).[9];
>> Bah¨¢'¨ªs Under the living Guardianship [10] (Donald Harvey as the third
>> Guardian and Jacques Soghomonian as the fourth Guardian), an
>> organization that is the successor to the Remey NSA [11]
>> Reform Baha'is[12];
>> Free Baha'is[13];
>> Unitarian Baha'is[14];
>> John Carre ("followers of Alif a Third Manifestation of God - the
>> third letter of the Greatest Name")
>> Within the Haifan Baha'i organisation, these groups are considered
>> dissidents, and amongst the wider Baha'i community there exists a
>> significant amount of controversy surrounding the various legitimacy
>> and authority claims of these groups.[15]
>>
>> In 2008, the National Spiritual Assembly of the Bah¨¢'¨ªs of the United
>> States (Wilmette NSA), launched unsuccessful legal action on behalf of
>> the Haifan Baha'is against the Orthodox Baha'i group, claiming breach
>> of an injunction preventing rival groups from using the name "Baha'i"
>> and certain related symbology.[16] The National Spiritual Assembly of
>> the Bah¨¢'¨ªs of the United States is currently appealing the ruling.
>> [17]
>>
>> [edit]The Haifan Baha'i Organisation
>> Based in Haifa, Israel, the Haifan Baha'is operate under the authority
>> of the Universal House of Justice Universal House of Justice. The
>> faith is then administered country to country by National Spiritual
>> Assemblies, and finally by Local Spiritual Assemblies.[18]
>>
>> The principles and goals to which the Haifan Baha'i Faith claims to
>> adhere include [19]:
>>
>> The Oneness of Mankind
>> Universal Peace Independent Investigation of Truth
>> The Common Foundation of All Religions
>> The Essential Harmony of Science and Religion
>> The Equality of Women and Men
>> Elimination of Prejudice of All Kinds
>> Universal Compulsory Education
>> A Spiritual Solution to Economic Problems
>> As well as advocating the development and implementation of:
>>
>> A World Super-State
>> A World Legislator
>> The unity of all the world's religions under the umbrella of the
>
> AB: I googled "The unity of all the world's religions under the umbrella"
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22The+unity+of+all+the+world%27s+religions+under+the+umbrella%22&btnG=Search
> and the phrase is coming from conspiracyarchive.com and
> pasted in to SW and then here.
> http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/social_change_agents.htm In turn,
> it looks like the conspiracyarchive.com version is from Tex Marrs. Thus,
> it
> is safe to say that you working off of a cartoon caricature.
>
> AB: So, you return to one scene of your propaganda crimes to gloat, but
> what about Bob and Diane? Do they look in here? What are they going to
> say when they figure out who you are parrotting, propagandist? Will you
> last until June, smearing lies all over sourcewatch.org?
>
> - All Bad
>
>> Baha'i Faith
>> A World Parliament
>> A World Police Force
>> A Supreme Tribunal
>> Election of leaders through merit alone without nominations (the
>> Administrative Order)
>> A single Universal Auxiliary Language
>> A permanent single currency
>> An international uniform tax
>> The implementation of Agenda 21 and the Earth Charter
>>
>> The Haifan Baha'i organization also explicitly refers to the these
>> principles as elements of an approaching "New World Order", which is
>> understood as a system of beliefs and teachings based upon the life
>> and writings of their prophet founder, Bah¨¢'u'll¨¢h, and comprises a
>> set of political, spiritual and social principles which Baha'is
>> believe define the correct structure for the unification of mankind.
>> [20]
>>
>> "It is towards this goal -- the goal of a new World Order, Divine in
>> origin, all-embracing in scope, equitable in principle, challenging in
>> its features -- that a harassed humanity must strive." (From the
>> Baha'i Writings).[21]
>>
>> "In 1955, during the first decade review of the UN charter, the Bah¨¢'¨ª
>> International Community offered a statement to the United Nations,
>> based on ideas articulated nearly a century before by Bah¨¢'u'll¨¢h.
>> "The Bah¨¢'¨ª concept of world order is defined in these terms: A world
>> Super-State in whose favor all the nations of the world will have
>> ceded every claim to make war, certain rights to impose taxation and
>> all rights to maintain armaments, except for the purposes of
>> maintaining internal order within their respective dominions. This
>> State will have to include an International Executive adequate to
>> enforce supreme and unchallengeable authority on every recalcitrant
>> member of the Commonwealth; a World Parliament whose members are
>> elected by the peoples in their respective countries and whose
>> election is confirmed by their respective governments; a Supreme
>> Tribunal whose judgment has a binding effect even in cases where the
>> parties concerned have not voluntarily agreed to submit their case to
>> its consideration."[22]
>>
>> However, Haifan Baha'is claim that what they refer to as a "World
>> Commonwealth" should not be considered as having any distinct partisan
>> political agenda.
>>
>> Despite its claims to equality between the sexes, women are prevented
>> from being elected as members of the Universal House of Justice.[23]
>>
>> [edit]Famous Members
>> In 1955, Time magazine reported that: "Famed Bahais are said to have
>> included Queen Marie of Rumania, Actress Carole Lombard,
>> Philanthropist Edith Rockefeller McCormick and President Wilson's
>> daughter, Margaret, who, Bahais believe, gave her father twelve of his
>> Fourteen Points straight from the writings of Baha'u'llah." [24]
>>
>> [edit]Contact
>> Web:http://www.bahai.org(Haifan organization)
>>
>> [edit]Resources and articles
>> [edit]Related Sourcewatch
>> Association for Baha'¨ª Studies
>> Gregory C. Dahl
>> Universal House of Justice
>> Susan Maneck
>> Juan Cole
>> Margaret Woodrow Wilson
>> [edit]References
>> ¡ü "Babism" Browne, Edward G., Religious Systems of the World: A
>> Contribution to the Study of Comparative Religion (London: Swann
>> Sonnenschein), pp. 333-53, first published in 1889; this was written
>> for a later edition in 1890 and published again in 1901 - Joan Winters-
>> Typed and proofread by Graham Sorenson, April 1999.
>> ¡ü "Bahaism", accessed March 7, 2009
>> ¡ü About Us Baha'i Faith, accessed September 22, 2007.
>> ¡ü Juan Cole, "Fundamentalism in the Contemporary U.S. Baha'i
>> Community", Religious Studies Review, Vol. 43, no. 3 (March, 2002):
>> 195-217, accessed March 5, 2009.
>> ¡ü Frederick Glaysher, The Baha'i Faith & Religious Freedom of
>> Conscience, accessed March 5, 2009.
>> ¡ü Frederick Glaysher, Nine Denominations, accessed March 5, 2009.
>> ¡ü Orthodox Bah¨¢'¨ª Faith, accessed March 5, 2009.
>> ¡ü Bah¨¢'¨ªs Under Provisions of the Covenant , accessed March 5, 2009.
>> ¡ü Tarbiyat Bah¨¢'¨ª Community, accessed March 5, 2009.
>> ¡ü Bah¨¢'¨ªs Under the Living Guardianship, accessed March 5, 2009.
>> ¡ü Baha'i Guardian, accessed March 5, 2009.
>> ¡ü Reform Bahai's, accessed March 5, 2009.
>> ¡ü Free Baha'is, accessed March 5, 2009.
>> ¡ü Unitarian Baha'is, accessed March 5, 2009.
>> ¡ü Juan Cole, "Fundamentalism in the Contemporary U.S. Baha'i
>> Community", Religious Studies Review, Vol. 43, no. 3 (March, 2002):
>> 195-217, accessed online March 5, 2009.
>> ¡ü Judgment in favor of the Orthodox Bah¨¢'¨ª Faith, From the National
>> Bah¨¢'¨ª Council of the Orthodox Bah¨¢'¨ªs of the United States, May
>> 2008,
>> accessed March 5, 2009.
>> ¡ü "Contempt Motion by Wilmette NSA against Orthodox Bah¨¢'¨ª Faith:
>> Parties await decision of Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals in NSA's
>> appeal of decision finding Orthodox Bah¨¢'¨ªs were not in contempt",
>> accessed March 5, 2009.
>> ¡ü "A Just System of Government: The Third Dimension to World Peace",
>> Huddleston, John, The Baha'i Faith and Marxism (Ottawa: Baha'i Studies
>> Publications, 1987), accessed March 5, 2009.
>> ¡ü The Works of the Universal House of Justice, accessed March 5,
>> 2009.
>> ¡ü Effendi, Shoghi (1938). "The Goal of a New World Order". The World
>> Order of Bah¨¢'u'll¨¢h. Wilmette, Illinois, USA: Bah¨¢'¨ª Publishing
>> Trust. pp. 34-35. ISBN 0877432317.
>> ¡ü "The Promise of Disarmament and Peace", Statement made available to
>> delegates of the first special session of the UN General Assembly
>> devoted to disarmament, New York USA, June 1982, accessed March 5,
>> 2009.
>> ¡ü Bah¨¢'¨ª International Community. Proposals to the United Nations for
>> Charter Revision. May 23, 1955 (quoted from Baha'i World: Turning
>> Point For All Nations).
>> ¡ü Membership of the Universal House of Justice, accessed March 5,
>> 2009.
>> ¡ü Heretics in Islam, Time, accessed March 25, 2009.
>>
>> Retrieved from "http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Baha
>> %27i_Faith"
>> Category: Religion
>
>
m***@gmail.com
2009-03-27 09:15:52 UTC
Permalink
On Mar 27, 10:37 am, "All Bad" <***@md.metrocast.net>
wrote:
> AB:  You are still parrotting some Bavarian Illuminati conspiracists who
> cite Texe Marrs as if he were a respected source, not a glaze eyed fanatic,
> like you!

Looking at the history, "Owen" was the one who added the link you
attribute to Texe Marrs. You, Pat Kohli/Owen, are the one who went
onto sourcewatch and added that link. And Bob Burton reverted it. And
what 'conspiracy' exactly do you think this article is "parroting"?
What cartoon caricature? Are you that STUPID? LOOK AT YOUR OWN
APPROVED WRITINGS! The article links to (amongst many others) these
sites:

http://www.bahai.com/Bahaullah/principles.htm

• The oneness of mankind.

• Universal peace upheld by a world government.

• Independent investigation of truth.

• The common foundation of all religions.

• The essential harmony of science and religion.

• Equality of men and women.

• Elimination of prejudice of all kinds.

• Universal compulsory education.

• A spiritual solution to the economic problem.

• A universal auxiliary language.

(bottom of the page attribution)
Adapted by permission from "Bahá'í Teachings for a World Faith".
Copyright © 1943, 1971, 1972 by the National Spiritual Assembly of the
Bahá'ís of the United States of America. All rights reserved.

http://bahai-library.com/introductory/warwick/newworld.html

World Institutions

To develop a genuine world order there needs to be:

A World Government: to enact the laws required to satisfy the needs of
all peoples. It will have at its disposal the combined forces of the
world in order to maintain peace.
A World Parliament: The members of this should be elected by the
people in each country, and their election should be confirmed by
their respective governments.
A World Code Of Law: based on justice for individuals and for nations.
A World Tribunal: Its decision will be binding on all parties.
World Police Force: An international police force must be created,
dedicated to upholding justice with complete impartiality.
Universal Equality: Everyone must have the right to education and to
be equal before the law. There must be a universal bill of human
rights.
A World Language: A world language will be either chosen or invented.
This will be taught in all the schools of each country, in addition to
the mother tongue of the region.

(bottom of the page attribution)
Published by the Spiritual Assembly of the Bahá'ís of Warwick.
Approved by the National Spiritual Assembly of the Bahá'ís of the
United Kingdom,
27 Rutland Gate, LONDON SW7 1PD.

All quotations are from the Bahá'í writings.

"In 1955, during the first decade review of the UN charter, the Bahá'í
International Community offered a statement to the United Nations,
based on ideas articulated nearly a century before by Bahá'u'lláh.
"The Bahá'í concept of world order is defined in these terms: A world
Super-State in whose favor all the nations of the world will have
ceded every claim to make war, certain rights to impose taxation and
all rights to maintain armaments, except for the purposes of
maintaining internal order within their respective dominions. This
State will have to include an International Executive adequate to
enforce supreme and unchallengeable authority on every recalcitrant
member of the Commonwealth; a World Parliament whose members are
elected by the peoples in their respective countries and whose
election is confirmed by their respective governments; a Supreme
Tribunal whose judgment has a binding effect even in cases where the
parties concerned have not voluntarily agreed to submit their case to
its consideration."[29]
↑ Bahá'í International Community. Proposals to the United Nations for
Charter Revision. May 23, 1955 (quoted from Baha'i World: Turning
Point For All Nations).

You are amazing in what you think you can get away with. Or is that
your own writings sound like utterly authoritarian propaganda
themselves? Got something to hide from people who read Sourcewatch?

>
> "NUR" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:505f169b-6975-4cc7-9b2a-***@z16g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 26, 10:28 am, NUR <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Baha%27i_Faith
>
> > Baha'i Faith
>
> > From SourceWatch
>
> > The Baha'i Faith is a religion which grew out of Babism.[1] It was
> > "founded in Iran in the mid-19th century by Mirza Hoseyn 'Ali Nuri,
> > who is known as Baha` Ullah (Arabic: "Glory of God")."[2]. Baha'is
> > consider their faith to be "the youngest of the world's independent
> > monotheistic religions. Founded in Iran in 1844, it now has more than
> > five million adherents in 236 countries and territories. Baha'is come
> > from nearly every national, ethnic and religious background, making
> > the Baha'i Faith the second-most-widespread religion in the
> > world."[3]
>
> > Numerous former members of the faith, most notably those adhering to
> > the Haifan Baha'i authority, have criticised the organisation for
> > engaging in various forms of coercion and authoritarian institutional
> > influence upon personal affairs in attempting to curb public criticism
> > and dissent amongst its members.[4][5].
>
> > Contents [hide]
> > 1 Sects, Divisions and Organisations
> > 2 The Haifan Baha'i Organisation
> > 3 Famous Members
> > 4 Contact
> > 5 Resources and articles
> > 5.1 Related Sourcewatch
> > 5.2 References
>
> > [edit]Sects, Divisions and Organisations
> > In its current state, the Baha'i Faith is divided amongst several
> > sects, the most prominent of which is that based in Haifa Israel, and
> > affiliated with the Universal House of Justice. At least nine sects
> > identify themselves as members of the Baha'i faith.[6]
>
> > Orthodox Bah¨¢'¨ª Faith (the OBF Respondents, following Joel B.
> > Marangella);[7]
> > Bah¨¢'¨ªs Under Provisions of the Covenant (the other Respondents,
> > following Leland Jensen).[8]
> > The Bah¨¢'¨ª Faith or Bah¨¢'¨ª World Faith (the Movant NSA);
> > Tarbiyat Bah¨¢'¨ª Community (formerly known as Orthodox Bah¨¢'¨ªs Under
> > the Regency) (Rex King group).[9];
> > Bah¨¢'¨ªs Under the living Guardianship [10] (Donald Harvey as the third
> > Guardian and Jacques Soghomonian as the fourth Guardian), an
> > organization that is the successor to the Remey NSA [11]
> > Reform Baha'is[12];
> > Free Baha'is[13];
> > Unitarian Baha'is[14];
> > John Carre ("followers of Alif a Third Manifestation of God - the
> > third letter of the Greatest Name")
> > Within the Haifan Baha'i organisation, these groups are considered
> > dissidents, and amongst the wider Baha'i community there exists a
> > significant amount of controversy surrounding the various legitimacy
> > and authority claims of these groups.[15]
>
> > In 2008, the National Spiritual Assembly of the Bah¨¢'¨ªs of the United
> > States (Wilmette NSA), launched unsuccessful legal action on behalf of
> > the Haifan Baha'is against the Orthodox Baha'i group, claiming breach
> > of an injunction preventing rival groups from using the name "Baha'i"
> > and certain related symbology.[16] The National Spiritual Assembly of
> > the Bah¨¢'¨ªs of the United States is currently appealing the ruling.
> > [17]
>
> > [edit]The Haifan Baha'i Organisation
> > Based in Haifa, Israel, the Haifan Baha'is operate under the authority
> > of the Universal House of Justice Universal House of Justice. The
> > faith is then administered country to country by National Spiritual
> > Assemblies, and finally by Local Spiritual Assemblies.[18]
>
> > The principles and goals to which the Haifan Baha'i Faith claims to
> > adhere include [19]:
>
> > The Oneness of Mankind
> > Universal Peace Independent Investigation of Truth
> > The Common Foundation of All Religions
> > The Essential Harmony of Science and Religion
> > The Equality of Women and Men
> > Elimination of Prejudice of All Kinds
> > Universal Compulsory Education
> > A Spiritual Solution to Economic Problems
> > As well as advocating the development and implementation of:
>
> > A World Super-State
> > A World Legislator
> > The unity of all the world's religions under the umbrella of the
>
> AB:  I googled "The unity of all the world's religions under the umbrella"http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22The+unity+of+all+the+world%27...
> and the phrase is coming from conspiracyarchive.com and
> pasted in to SW and then here.http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/social_change_agents.htm In turn,
> it looks like the conspiracyarchive.com version is from Tex Marrs.  Thus, it
> is safe to say that you working off of a cartoon caricature.
>
> AB:  So, you return to one scene of your propaganda crimes to gloat, but
> what about Bob and Diane?  Do they look in here?  What are they going to say
> when they figure out who you are parrotting, propagandist?  Will you last
> until June, smearing lies all over sourcewatch.org?
>
> - All Bad
>
> > Baha'i Faith
> > A World Parliament
> > A World Police Force
> > A Supreme Tribunal
> > Election of leaders through merit alone without nominations (the
> > Administrative Order)
> > A single Universal Auxiliary Language
> > A permanent single currency
> > An international uniform tax
> > The implementation of Agenda 21 and the Earth Charter
>
> > The Haifan Baha'i organization also explicitly refers to the these
> > principles as elements of an approaching "New World Order", which is
> > understood as a system of beliefs and teachings based upon the life
> > and writings of their prophet founder, Bah¨¢'u'll¨¢h, and comprises a
> > set of political, spiritual and social principles which Baha'is
> > believe define the correct structure for the unification of mankind.
> > [20]
>
> > "It is towards this goal -- the goal of a new World Order, Divine in
> > origin, all-embracing in scope, equitable in principle, challenging in
> > its features -- that a harassed humanity must strive." (From the
> > Baha'i Writings).[21]
>
> > "In 1955, during the first decade review of the UN charter, the Bah¨¢'¨ª
> > International Community offered a statement to the United Nations,
> > based on ideas articulated nearly a century before by Bah¨¢'u'll¨¢h.
> > "The Bah¨¢'¨ª concept of world order is defined in these terms: A world
> > Super-State in whose favor all the nations of the world will have
> > ceded every claim to make war, certain rights to impose taxation and
> > all rights to maintain armaments, except for the purposes of
> > maintaining internal order within their respective dominions. This
> > State will have to include an International Executive adequate to
> > enforce supreme and unchallengeable authority on every recalcitrant
> > member of the Commonwealth; a World Parliament whose members are
> > elected by the peoples in their respective countries and whose
> > election is confirmed by their respective governments; a Supreme
> > Tribunal whose judgment has a binding effect even in cases where the
> > parties concerned have not voluntarily agreed to submit their case to
> > its consideration."[22]
>
> > However, Haifan Baha'is claim that what they refer to as a "World
> > Commonwealth" should not be considered as having any distinct partisan
> > political agenda.
>
> > Despite its claims to equality between the sexes, women are prevented
> > from being elected as members of the Universal House of Justice.[23]
>
> > [edit]Famous Members
> > In 1955, Time magazine reported that: "Famed Bahais are said to have
> > included Queen Marie of Rumania, Actress Carole Lombard,
> > Philanthropist Edith Rockefeller McCormick and President Wilson's
> > daughter, Margaret, who, Bahais believe, gave her father twelve of his
> > Fourteen Points straight from the writings of Baha'u'llah." [24]
>
> > [edit]Contact
> > Web:http://www.bahai.org(Haifanorganization)
>
> > [edit]Resources and articles
> > [edit]Related Sourcewatch
> > Association for Baha'¨ª Studies
> > Gregory C. Dahl
> > Universal House of Justice
> > Susan Maneck
> > Juan Cole
> > Margaret Woodrow Wilson
> > [edit]References
> > ¡ü "Babism" Browne, Edward G., Religious Systems of the World: A
> > Contribution to the Study of Comparative Religion (London: Swann
> > Sonnenschein), pp. 333-53, first published in 1889; this was written
> > for a later edition in 1890 and published again in 1901 - Joan Winters-
> > Typed and proofread by Graham Sorenson, April 1999.
> > ¡ü "Bahaism", accessed March 7, 2009
> > ¡ü About Us Baha'i Faith, accessed September 22, 2007.
> > ¡ü Juan Cole, "Fundamentalism in the Contemporary U.S. Baha'i
> > Community", Religious Studies Review, Vol. 43, no. 3 (March, 2002):
> > 195-217, accessed March 5, 2009.
> > ¡ü Frederick Glaysher, The Baha'i Faith & Religious Freedom of
> > Conscience, accessed March 5, 2009.
> > ¡ü Frederick Glaysher, Nine Denominations, accessed March 5, 2009.
> > ¡ü Orthodox Bah¨¢'¨ª Faith, accessed March 5, 2009.
> > ¡ü Bah¨¢'¨ªs Under Provisions of the Covenant , accessed March 5, 2009.
> > ¡ü Tarbiyat Bah¨¢'¨ª Community, accessed March 5, 2009.
> > ¡ü Bah¨¢'¨ªs Under the Living Guardianship, accessed March 5, 2009.
> > ¡ü Baha'i Guardian, accessed March 5, 2009.
> > ¡ü Reform Bahai's, accessed March 5, 2009.
> > ¡ü Free Baha'is, accessed March 5, 2009.
> > ¡ü Unitarian Baha'is, accessed March 5, 2009.
> > ¡ü Juan Cole, "Fundamentalism in the Contemporary U.S. Baha'i
> > Community", Religious Studies Review, Vol. 43, no. 3 (March, 2002):
> > 195-217, accessed online March 5, 2009.
> > ¡ü Judgment in favor of the Orthodox Bah¨¢'¨ª Faith, From the National
> > Bah¨¢'¨ª Council of the Orthodox Bah¨¢'¨ªs of the United States, May 2008,
> > accessed March 5, 2009.
> > ¡ü "Contempt Motion by Wilmette NSA against Orthodox Bah¨¢'¨ª Faith:
> > Parties await decision of Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals in NSA's
> > appeal of decision finding Orthodox Bah¨¢'¨ªs were not in contempt",
> > accessed March 5, 2009.
> > ¡ü "A Just System of Government: The Third Dimension to World Peace",
> > Huddleston, John, The Baha'i Faith and
>
> ...
>
> read more »
m***@gmail.com
2009-03-27 10:02:13 UTC
Permalink
On Mar 27, 10:37 am, "All Bad" <***@md.metrocast.net>
wrote:
> AB:  You are still parrotting some Bavarian Illuminati conspiracists who
> cite Texe Marrs as if he were a respected source, not a glaze eyed fanatic,
> like you!
>
> "NUR" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:505f169b-6975-4cc7-9b2a-***@z16g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 26, 10:28 am, NUR <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Baha%27i_Faith
>
> > Baha'i Faith
>
> > From SourceWatch
>
> > The Baha'i Faith is a religion which grew out of Babism.[1] It was
> > "founded in Iran in the mid-19th century by Mirza Hoseyn 'Ali Nuri,
> > who is known as Baha` Ullah (Arabic: "Glory of God")."[2]. Baha'is
> > consider their faith to be "the youngest of the world's independent
> > monotheistic religions. Founded in Iran in 1844, it now has more than
> > five million adherents in 236 countries and territories. Baha'is come
> > from nearly every national, ethnic and religious background, making
> > the Baha'i Faith the second-most-widespread religion in the
> > world."[3]
>
> > Numerous former members of the faith, most notably those adhering to
> > the Haifan Baha'i authority, have criticised the organisation for
> > engaging in various forms of coercion and authoritarian institutional
> > influence upon personal affairs in attempting to curb public criticism
> > and dissent amongst its members.[4][5].
>
> > Contents [hide]
> > 1 Sects, Divisions and Organisations
> > 2 The Haifan Baha'i Organisation
> > 3 Famous Members
> > 4 Contact
> > 5 Resources and articles
> > 5.1 Related Sourcewatch
> > 5.2 References
>
> > [edit]Sects, Divisions and Organisations
> > In its current state, the Baha'i Faith is divided amongst several
> > sects, the most prominent of which is that based in Haifa Israel, and
> > affiliated with the Universal House of Justice. At least nine sects
> > identify themselves as members of the Baha'i faith.[6]
>
> > Orthodox Bah¨¢'¨ª Faith (the OBF Respondents, following Joel B.
> > Marangella);[7]
> > Bah¨¢'¨ªs Under Provisions of the Covenant (the other Respondents,
> > following Leland Jensen).[8]
> > The Bah¨¢'¨ª Faith or Bah¨¢'¨ª World Faith (the Movant NSA);
> > Tarbiyat Bah¨¢'¨ª Community (formerly known as Orthodox Bah¨¢'¨ªs Under
> > the Regency) (Rex King group).[9];
> > Bah¨¢'¨ªs Under the living Guardianship [10] (Donald Harvey as the third
> > Guardian and Jacques Soghomonian as the fourth Guardian), an
> > organization that is the successor to the Remey NSA [11]
> > Reform Baha'is[12];
> > Free Baha'is[13];
> > Unitarian Baha'is[14];
> > John Carre ("followers of Alif a Third Manifestation of God - the
> > third letter of the Greatest Name")
> > Within the Haifan Baha'i organisation, these groups are considered
> > dissidents, and amongst the wider Baha'i community there exists a
> > significant amount of controversy surrounding the various legitimacy
> > and authority claims of these groups.[15]
>
> > In 2008, the National Spiritual Assembly of the Bah¨¢'¨ªs of the United
> > States (Wilmette NSA), launched unsuccessful legal action on behalf of
> > the Haifan Baha'is against the Orthodox Baha'i group, claiming breach
> > of an injunction preventing rival groups from using the name "Baha'i"
> > and certain related symbology.[16] The National Spiritual Assembly of
> > the Bah¨¢'¨ªs of the United States is currently appealing the ruling.
> > [17]
>
> > [edit]The Haifan Baha'i Organisation
> > Based in Haifa, Israel, the Haifan Baha'is operate under the authority
> > of the Universal House of Justice Universal House of Justice. The
> > faith is then administered country to country by National Spiritual
> > Assemblies, and finally by Local Spiritual Assemblies.[18]
>
> > The principles and goals to which the Haifan Baha'i Faith claims to
> > adhere include [19]:
>
> > The Oneness of Mankind
> > Universal Peace Independent Investigation of Truth
> > The Common Foundation of All Religions
> > The Essential Harmony of Science and Religion
> > The Equality of Women and Men
> > Elimination of Prejudice of All Kinds
> > Universal Compulsory Education
> > A Spiritual Solution to Economic Problems
> > As well as advocating the development and implementation of:
>
> > A World Super-State
> > A World Legislator
> > The unity of all the world's religions under the umbrella of the
>
> AB:  I googled "The unity of all the world's religions under the umbrella"http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22The+unity+of+all+the+world%27...
> and the phrase is coming from conspiracyarchive.com and
> pasted in to SW and then here.http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/social_change_agents.htm In turn,
> it looks like the conspiracyarchive.com version is from Tex Marrs.  Thus, it
> is safe to say that you working off of a cartoon caricature.
>
> AB:  So, you return to one scene of your propaganda crimes to gloat, but
> what about Bob and Diane?  Do they look in here?  What are they going to say
> when they figure out who you are parrotting, propagandist?  Will you last
> until June, smearing lies all over sourcewatch.org?
>

I am so utterly GOBSMACKED right now, Pat, I can hardly type!
Propaganda crimes! Smearing lies! WOW! You want to talk about
DELUSION! YOU are out of your mind.
What on earth is THIS: http://hikmat.susanmaneck.com/?


> - All Bad
>
> > Baha'i Faith
> > A World Parliament
> > A World Police Force
> > A Supreme Tribunal
> > Election of leaders through merit alone without nominations (the
> > Administrative Order)
> > A single Universal Auxiliary Language
> > A permanent single currency
> > An international uniform tax
> > The implementation of Agenda 21 and the Earth Charter
>
> > The Haifan Baha'i organization also explicitly refers to the these
> > principles as elements of an approaching "New World Order", which is
> > understood as a system of beliefs and teachings based upon the life
> > and writings of their prophet founder, Bah¨¢'u'll¨¢h, and comprises a
> > set of political, spiritual and social principles which Baha'is
> > believe define the correct structure for the unification of mankind.
> > [20]
>
> > "It is towards this goal -- the goal of a new World Order, Divine in
> > origin, all-embracing in scope, equitable in principle, challenging in
> > its features -- that a harassed humanity must strive." (From the
> > Baha'i Writings).[21]
>
> > "In 1955, during the first decade review of the UN charter, the Bah¨¢'¨ª
> > International Community offered a statement to the United Nations,
> > based on ideas articulated nearly a century before by Bah¨¢'u'll¨¢h.
> > "The Bah¨¢'¨ª concept of world order is defined in these terms: A world
> > Super-State in whose favor all the nations of the world will have
> > ceded every claim to make war, certain rights to impose taxation and
> > all rights to maintain armaments, except for the purposes of
> > maintaining internal order within their respective dominions. This
> > State will have to include an International Executive adequate to
> > enforce supreme and unchallengeable authority on every recalcitrant
> > member of the Commonwealth; a World Parliament whose members are
> > elected by the peoples in their respective countries and whose
> > election is confirmed by their respective governments; a Supreme
> > Tribunal whose judgment has a binding effect even in cases where the
> > parties concerned have not voluntarily agreed to submit their case to
> > its consideration."[22]
>
> > However, Haifan Baha'is claim that what they refer to as a "World
> > Commonwealth" should not be considered as having any distinct partisan
> > political agenda.
>
> > Despite its claims to equality between the sexes, women are prevented
> > from being elected as members of the Universal House of Justice.[23]
>
> > [edit]Famous Members
> > In 1955, Time magazine reported that: "Famed Bahais are said to have
> > included Queen Marie of Rumania, Actress Carole Lombard,
> > Philanthropist Edith Rockefeller McCormick and President Wilson's
> > daughter, Margaret, who, Bahais believe, gave her father twelve of his
> > Fourteen Points straight from the writings of Baha'u'llah." [24]
>
> > [edit]Contact
> > Web:http://www.bahai.org(Haifanorganization)
>
> > [edit]Resources and articles
> > [edit]Related Sourcewatch
> > Association for Baha'¨ª Studies
> > Gregory C. Dahl
> > Universal House of Justice
> > Susan Maneck
> > Juan Cole
> > Margaret Woodrow Wilson
> > [edit]References
> > ¡ü "Babism" Browne, Edward G., Religious Systems of the World: A
> > Contribution to the Study of Comparative Religion (London: Swann
> > Sonnenschein), pp. 333-53, first published in 1889; this was written
> > for a later edition in 1890 and published again in 1901 - Joan Winters-
> > Typed and proofread by Graham Sorenson, April 1999.
> > ¡ü "Bahaism", accessed March 7, 2009
> > ¡ü About Us Baha'i Faith, accessed September 22, 2007.
> > ¡ü Juan Cole, "Fundamentalism in the Contemporary U.S. Baha'i
> > Community", Religious Studies Review, Vol. 43, no. 3 (March, 2002):
> > 195-217, accessed March 5, 2009.
> > ¡ü Frederick Glaysher, The Baha'i Faith & Religious Freedom of
> > Conscience, accessed March 5, 2009.
> > ¡ü Frederick Glaysher, Nine Denominations, accessed March 5, 2009.
> > ¡ü Orthodox Bah¨¢'¨ª Faith, accessed March 5, 2009.
> > ¡ü Bah¨¢'¨ªs Under Provisions of the Covenant , accessed March 5, 2009.
> > ¡ü Tarbiyat Bah¨¢'¨ª Community, accessed March 5, 2009.
> > ¡ü Bah¨¢'¨ªs Under the Living Guardianship, accessed March 5, 2009.
> > ¡ü Baha'i Guardian, accessed March 5, 2009.
> > ¡ü Reform Bahai's, accessed March 5, 2009.
> > ¡ü Free Baha'is, accessed March 5, 2009.
> > ¡ü Unitarian Baha'is, accessed March 5, 2009.
> > ¡ü Juan Cole, "Fundamentalism in the Contemporary U.S. Baha'i
> > Community", Religious Studies Review, Vol. 43, no. 3 (March, 2002):
> > 195-217, accessed online March 5, 2009.
> > ¡ü Judgment in favor of the Orthodox Bah¨¢'¨ª Faith, From the National
> > Bah¨¢'¨ª Council of the Orthodox Bah¨¢'¨ªs of the United States, May 2008,
> > accessed March 5, 2009.
> > ¡ü "Contempt Motion by Wilmette NSA against Orthodox Bah¨¢'¨ª Faith:
> > Parties await decision of Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals in NSA's
> > appeal of decision finding Orthodox Bah¨¢'¨ªs were not in contempt",
> > accessed March 5, 2009.
> > ¡ü "A Just System of Government: The Third Dimension to World Peace",
> > Huddleston, John, The Baha'i Faith and
>
> ...
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> http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Baha%27i_Faith
>
> Baha'i Faith
>
> From SourceWatch
>
> The Baha'i Faith is a religion which grew out of Babism.[1] It was
> "founded in Iran in the mid-19th century by Mirza Hoseyn 'Ali Nuri,
> who is known as Baha` Ullah (Arabic: "Glory of God")."[2]. Baha'is
> consider their faith to be "the youngest of the world's independent
> monotheistic religions. Founded in Iran in 1844, it now has more than
> five million adherents in 236 countries and territories. Baha'is come
> from nearly every national, ethnic and religious background, making
> the Baha'i Faith the second-most-widespread religion in the
> world."[3]
>
> Numerous former members of the faith, most notably those adhering to
> the Haifan Baha'i authority, have criticised the organisation for
> engaging in various forms of coercion and authoritarian institutional
> influence upon personal affairs in attempting to curb public criticism
> and dissent amongst its members.[4][5].
>
> Contents [hide]
> 1 Sects, Divisions and Organisations
> 2 The Haifan Baha'i Organisation
> 3 Famous Members
> 4 Contact
> 5 Resources and articles
> 5.1 Related Sourcewatch
> 5.2 References
>
> [edit]Sects, Divisions and Organisations
> In its current state, the Baha'i Faith is divided amongst several
> sects, the most prominent of which is that based in Haifa Israel, and
> affiliated with the Universal House of Justice. At least nine sects
> identify themselves as members of the Baha'i faith.[6]
>
> Orthodox Bahá'í Faith (the OBF Respondents, following Joel B.
> Marangella);[7]
> Bahá'ís Under Provisions of the Covenant (the other Respondents,
> following Leland Jensen).[8]
> The Bahá'í Faith or Bahá'í World Faith (the Movant NSA);
> Tarbiyat Bahá'í Community (formerly known as Orthodox Bahá'ís Under
> the Regency) (Rex King group).[9];
> Bahá'ís Under the living Guardianship [10] (Donald Harvey as the third
> Guardian and Jacques Soghomonian as the fourth Guardian), an
> organization that is the successor to the Remey NSA [11]
> Reform Baha'is[12];
> Free Baha'is[13];
> Unitarian Baha'is[14];
> John Carre ("followers of Alif a Third Manifestation of God - the
> third letter of the Greatest Name")
> Within the Haifan Baha'i organisation, these groups are considered
> dissidents, and amongst the wider Baha'i community there exists a
> significant amount of controversy surrounding the various legitimacy
> and authority claims of these groups.[15]
>
> In 2008, the National Spiritual Assembly of the Bahá'ís of the United
> States (Wilmette NSA), launched unsuccessful legal action on behalf of
> the Haifan Baha'is against the Orthodox Baha'i group, claiming breach
> of an injunction preventing rival groups from using the name "Baha'i"
> and certain related symbology.[16] The National Spiritual Assembly of
> the Bahá'ís of the United States is currently appealing the ruling.
> [17]
>
> [edit]The Haifan Baha'i Organisation
> Based in Haifa, Israel, the Haifan Baha'is operate under the authority
> of the Universal House of Justice Universal House of Justice. The
> faith is then administered country to country by National Spiritual
> Assemblies, and finally by Local Spiritual Assemblies.[18]
>
> The principles and goals to which the Haifan Baha'i Faith claims to
> adhere include [19]:
>
> The Oneness of Mankind
> Universal Peace Independent Investigation of Truth
> The Common Foundation of All Religions
> The Essential Harmony of Science and Religion
> The Equality of Women and Men
> Elimination of Prejudice of All Kinds
> Universal Compulsory Education
> A Spiritual Solution to Economic Problems
> As well as advocating the development and implementation of:
>
> A World Super-State
> A World Legislator
> The unity of all the world's religions under the umbrella of the
> Baha'i Faith
> A World Parliament
> A World Police Force
> A Supreme Tribunal
> Election of leaders through merit alone without nominations (the
> Administrative Order)
> A single Universal Auxiliary Language
> A permanent single currency
> An international uniform tax
> The implementation of Agenda 21 and the Earth Charter
>
> The Haifan Baha'i organization also explicitly refers to the these
> principles as elements of an approaching "New World Order", which is
> understood as a system of beliefs and teachings based upon the life
> and writings of their prophet founder, Bahá'u'lláh, and comprises a
> set of political, spiritual and social principles which Baha'is
> believe define the correct structure for the unification of mankind.
> [20]
>
> "It is towards this goal -- the goal of a new World Order, Divine in
> origin, all-embracing in scope, equitable in principle, challenging in
> its features -- that a harassed humanity must strive." (From the
> Baha'i Writings).[21]
>
> "In 1955, during the first decade review of the UN charter, the Bahá'í
> International Community offered a statement to the United Nations,
> based on ideas articulated nearly a century before by Bahá'u'lláh.
> "The Bahá'í concept of world order is defined in these terms: A world
> Super-State in whose favor all the nations of the world will have
> ceded every claim to make war, certain rights to impose taxation and
> all rights to maintain armaments, except for the purposes of
> maintaining internal order within their respective dominions. This
> State will have to include an International Executive adequate to
> enforce supreme and unchallengeable authority on every recalcitrant
> member of the Commonwealth; a World Parliament whose members are
> elected by the peoples in their respective countries and whose
> election is confirmed by their respective governments; a Supreme
> Tribunal whose judgment has a binding effect even in cases where the
> parties concerned have not voluntarily agreed to submit their case to
> its consideration."[22]
>
> However, Haifan Baha'is claim that what they refer to as a "World
> Commonwealth" should not be considered as having any distinct partisan
> political agenda.
>
> Despite its claims to equality between the sexes, women are prevented
> from being elected as members of the Universal House of Justice.[23]
>
> [edit]Famous Members
> In 1955, Time magazine reported that: "Famed Bahais are said to have
> included Queen Marie of Rumania, Actress Carole Lombard,
> Philanthropist Edith Rockefeller McCormick and President Wilson's
> daughter, Margaret, who, Bahais believe, gave her father twelve of his
> Fourteen Points straight from the writings of Baha'u'llah." [24]
>
> [edit]Contact
> Web:http://www.bahai.org(Haifan organization)
>
> [edit]Resources and articles
> [edit]Related Sourcewatch
> Association for Baha'í Studies
> Gregory C. Dahl
> Universal House of Justice
> Susan Maneck
> Juan Cole
> Margaret Woodrow Wilson
> [edit]References
> ↑ "Babism" Browne, Edward G., Religious Systems of the World: A
> Contribution to the Study of Comparative Religion (London: Swann
> Sonnenschein), pp. 333-53, first published in 1889; this was written
> for a later edition in 1890 and published again in 1901 - Joan Winters-
> Typed and proofread by Graham Sorenson, April 1999.
> ↑ "Bahaism", accessed March 7, 2009
> ↑ About Us Baha'i Faith, accessed September 22, 2007.
> ↑ Juan Cole, "Fundamentalism in the Contemporary U.S. Baha'i
> Community", Religious Studies Review, Vol. 43, no. 3 (March, 2002):
> 195-217, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ↑ Frederick Glaysher, The Baha'i Faith & Religious Freedom of
> Conscience, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ↑ Frederick Glaysher, Nine Denominations, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ↑ Orthodox Bahá'í Faith, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ↑ Bahá'ís Under Provisions of the Covenant , accessed March 5, 2009.
> ↑ Tarbiyat Bahá'í Community, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ↑ Bahá'ís Under the Living Guardianship, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ↑ Baha'i Guardian, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ↑ Reform Bahai's, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ↑ Free Baha'is, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ↑ Unitarian Baha'is, accessed March 5, 2009.
> ↑ Juan Cole, "Fundamentalism in the Contemporary U.S. Baha'i
> Community", Religious Studies Review, Vol. 43, no. 3 (March, 2002):
> 195-217, accessed online March 5, 2009.
> ↑ Judgment in favor of the Orthodox Bahá'í Faith, From the National
> Bahá'í Council of the Orthodox Bahá'ís of the United States, May 2008,
> accessed March 5, 2009.
> ↑ "Contempt Motion by Wilmette NSA against Orthodox Bahá'í Faith:
> Parties await decision of Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals in NSA's
> appeal of decision finding Orthodox Bahá'ís were not in contempt",
> accessed March 5, 2009.
> ↑ "A Just System of Government: The Third Dimension to World Peace",
> Huddleston, John, The Baha'i Faith and Marxism (Ottawa: Baha'i Studies
> Publications, 1987), accessed March 5, 2009.
> ↑ The Works of the Universal House of Justice, accessed March 5,
> 2009.
> ↑ Effendi, Shoghi (1938). "The Goal of a New World Order". The World
> Order of Bahá'u'lláh. Wilmette, Illinois, USA: Bahá'í Publishing
> Trust. pp. 34-35. ISBN 0877432317.
> ↑ "The Promise of Disarmament and Peace", Statement made available to
> delegates of the first special session of the UN General Assembly
> devoted to disarmament, New York USA, June 1982, accessed March 5,
> 2009.
> ↑ Bahá'í International Community. Proposals to the United Nations for
> Charter Revision. May 23, 1955 (quoted from Baha'i World: Turning
> Point For All Nations).
> ↑ Membership of the Universal House of Justice, accessed March 5,
> 2009.
> ↑ Heretics in Islam, Time, accessed March 25, 2009.
>
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